Grindus Weapon

Just to kill some time, I'd like know how you felt about the relic weapon questchains.

1) Done it all until the very end (so far)!
2) Progressing it and want go to the end!
3) Stopped at some point (say which one ;) )
4) Never cared, usind dropped/tomes ones
5) Anything other.

About, me:
3) I stopped at the books stage. I feel them so grindy I really have aborted any willing to go ahead at the point that I dunno if return to it, even if that part will be eased in the future.

So now I go for dropped/tomes weapons and no care relic anymore.

Share your feelings :cool:

2) Progressing it and want go to the end!


I find this the case with most players of more than 8-year playing time.
It's the weapon that in some cases ( I know some Ninjas and super hardcore people have managed their Relics in shorter time) will be the only thing to resemble a long playing stance. Who knows a year from now the line will still be going and all the new players will see that weapon and be like wow this guy/girl has been a vet lol Idk I look at it that way. Besides you know the weapon is always goign to get better rather than ''grinding'' countless coil hours to obtain a weapon that will be outdated in 2-months time or on par with a weapon you can obtain from a few quest.

Some players are still trying to progress their T9 weapon after 30+ clears.....While those who just grinded relic are like i115 or 125 now.

Base relic/Zenith: Super easy and completely forgettable.
Atma: Some areas were really stingy about the drop rates, but looking back it didn't really take all that long to get all the atma. (I finished 2 sets prenerf)
Animus: Dumb FATE camping bull. Hated it.
Novus: Money plz, Materia $$$$
Nexus: I liked it. Spent most of it in Front lines having a nice time.
Zodiac: Aside from Hullbreaker RNG (30+ runs) and a few other dungeons(5 were 10+ runs each), not bad at all.

1) So far the relic stage for me has been a grind that has not been fun Since the first step in the quest chain. The first stage was done really well although i think it should have been Garuda,titian, and Ifirit extreme instead of the hard mode versions. I feel as the entire quest chain in just a massive time sink to re run old content and by the end of it you don't even feel like you have been rewarded or accomplished anything of note. The axe looks awesome tho and I'm super happy with it.

I choose 2.

Base: Fun! (early on it was challaneging and the quest wasn't grindy and was very varied content-wise.
Atma: I was lucky, but read the horror stories here on the forums (sorry for you bad luck players!). Personally I found it O.K. If it lasted long I'd hate it D:
Animus: It was O.K overall, it was pretty varied.
Novus: A loooot of gil needed... I didn't like it. I liked the maps though.
Nexus: ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz was boring, but it was because I decided to spam trials. It looked like it's never ending.
Zodiac: I think it's okay, varied quest, different content. I have bad luck on this one, doing a lot of runs...

So far im working my way through the nexus stage ...600 lights left on my pala....and 1300 left on my war...after that i'm gonna stop because i love the look of the nexus weapons, and i really dont wanna do the next step and lose the shiney :D ...i'll keep them as glamour weapons

Stopped at the materia melding scroll stage.

Alex maps are a pain, hard to find people to do them with.

Melding can fail ... Not going to waste gil - wasted enough overmelding crafter and gatherer gear.

Was tired of jumping through hoops.

Figured, screw it. It doesn't look that good anyway - SMN relic.

Still at Novus now getting lights but I'm on a semi-hiatus so I won't be heavy grinding on it now. Personally I think each of the relic stage progression since Atma only forces you to visit older dungeons and clear fate through and through with RNG chance you get what you want for it, each with just a unique way to progress.

Really wish they add special instances or fights instead (like those solo storyline/job battles) that actually proof we deserve the best of the relic.

1) Done it all until the very end (so far)!

Sure it's been grindy here and there (okay, a lot) but it's been worth it IMO. I'm glad it's not stupidly easy, or everyone would be running around with it at the max state as soon as they released. You have to put in some effort, but you get a nice reward out of it.

http://i.imgur.com/7YCGeE9.jpg

YOU LOOK FREAKIN AWESOME ^ AND IS THAT METALLIC BLUE ? IT JUST BRINGS EVERYTHING OUT NICE

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Just to kill some time, I'd like know how you felt about the relic weapon questchains.

1) Done it all until the very end (so far)!
2) Progressing it and want go to the end!
3) Stopped at some point (say which one ;) )
4) Never cared, usind dropped/tomes ones
5) Anything other.

About, me:
3) I stopped at the books stage. I feel them so grindy I really have aborted any willing to go ahead at the point that I dunno if return to it, even if that part will be eased in the future.

So now I go for dropped/tomes weapons and no care relic anymore.

Share your feelings :cool:

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2 on several weapons, also 4 cause that's how the whole thing is designed so far, also 5 on account of hating these threads.

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Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix

YOU LOOK FREAKIN AWESOME ^ AND IS THAT METALLIC BLUE ? IT JUST RBINGS EVERYTHING OUT NICE

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XD Thanks. I've been dying for a sword and shield that go well with the Armor of Light set. It's the default colour of it and it's undyable, but it does have a nice effect. The sword and shield I dyed Gloom Purple as it's the closest match to the armour colour :)

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Originally Posted by Lucem

XD Thanks. I've been dying for a sword and shield that go well with the Armor of Light set. It's the default colour of it and it's undyable, but it does have a nice effect. The sword and shield I dyed Gloom Purple as it's the closest match to the armour colour :)

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From the look of your helm abyssal blue might work better; that's the "adaberk blurple" if you're familiar with ffxi stuff.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

From the look of your helm abyssal blue might work better; that's the "adaberk blurple" if you're familiar with ffxi stuff.

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Didn't even think to look in the blues >< just tried it and it does look like a better match! Thanks! ^^

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The initial relic with titan hm as the road block is a good skill/job check - to bad many got carried and still to this day even with ilvl baggilion fail at it(this is what I do fer every job I hit 50)
Zenith was a bit of a grind at start until they started dropping myth like candy - really non content now-a-days
Atma - 1000 fates for the first non-upgrade - best troll ever - funny got the second one in 200 fates(pre nerf)
Animus - ok kill 1000 mobs, run dungeons(some you like some you don't), leves(hey atleast it helps towards those achievements see SE is thinking of us), FATES - I mostly got lucky but at one point due to bordem waited a whole day on the fates to pop
Novus - this for me was good progression - at worst it would atke you 75 days to get all the alexandrite - couple that with SBing and stuff along the way and you would have everything you needed by that point
Nexus - 2000 light is way too much of a grind - I've gotten my novus before the nexus dropped and have basically been doing normal every day things each day(drex, drtrials, dr high every so often, raids, exs etc...) I haven't even reached 1000 light and I even suffered through 2 1h long light farms - I don't plan on doing that anymore but will be running some other stuff with friends
Zodiac - not bad - get mts, find a 3 star crafter, do some dungeons for rng drops(this can be good or bad) and do it...

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I stopped after Animus and am not sure if I will continue. Waiting for rare FATEs to spawn for the books was absolutely horrible.

When I think about what is involved with continuing, I wonder... "Why?" It just doesn't seem worthwhile anymore.

3) 4)
Stopped after I got the ilv90 one, before that Atma Fate grind.
Used a Syrcus Tower drop for an easy 110 weap. If I feel the need there is Shiva for another easy weapon (115)
I already got another UAT from ST ready for my next lv50 job

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Originally Posted by Mikita

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When I think about what is involved with continuing, I wonder... "Why?" It just doesn't seem worthwhile anymore.

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second this ^

#2

I've enjoyed every part of the relic quests minus the Atma farming, I just really didn't have any luck, and that's kind of where I'm at currently, I just need the 4 dungeons of the last quest that includes DD. I liked the fact that you had to do Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan to get the relic, and even get into Coil. I hope that SE does this again in the expansion. I mean, people still eat plumes for dinner on the daily. But all in all, it has been an interesting grind, and accomplishment, everyone should be proud of where they are at.

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Originally Posted by Lucem

1) Done it all until the very end (so far)!

Sure it's been grindy here and there (okay, a lot) but it's been worth it IMO. I'm glad it's not stupidly easy, or everyone would be running around with it at the max state as soon as they released. You have to put in some effort, but you get a nice reward out of it.

http://i.imgur.com/7YCGeE9.jpg

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It IS stupidly easy though, that's the whole point of the Relic. Long grind doesn't mean it's difficult, lol.

You finished yours then I take it? The grind and RNG are 'difficult' enough to stop a lot of players getting them and keeping them moaning about how hard it is or how it's not worth it. I stick by what I said, if it was easy and required no effort/grind EVERYONE would be running around with one.

5.) Other

I'm kinda surprised you didn't list "Will get to it eventually" as an option. If I'm wandering around with my Zenith or Atma weapon, I don't feel guilty.

Me, personally I have not been able to get past the Atma grind. I would like to have the more upgraded weapons, sure, but having a Zenith and knowing I can get something better by collecting tomes currently has my attention. I know that the drop rate for Atma was improved recently, but I still feel like its taking forever to collect them all. And this is just the Atma; I've read on about what I have to do to continue the upgrade process. I'll keep at it when I can muster the focus to grind the FATEs, but i do wish collecting the Atma was a tad bit easier or consistent.

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Originally Posted by Aegeis

I'll keep at it when I can muster the focus to grind the FATEs, but i do wish collecting the Atma was a tad bit easier or consistent.

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Now this is coming from someone that has completed the Atma portion before the adjustment. But what helped me through that was chatting with FC mates via PSN, Skype, or TS.....when no one to chat with I had music going through my headsets, I know it sounds weird but it really helped with the grind.

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MNK relict at Novus stage (need 600 lights until Nexus)
WHM relict at Atma stage (3 books until Animus, on hold until MNK have Nexus because the dungeon runs ^^)
12 Atma stones are waiting for Ninja to get lv50

3: I finished my atma last week (it was a pain, I hate heavy RNG content). I still don't have bought my first book for animus: having to camp FATEs for hours is like a punishement for me. I don't enjoy that kind of content at all. I'm glad SE gave us the opportunity to get decent weapons outside of this painfull chainquest.

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I really want to finish mine but this light grind is killing me. I've been stuck at robust activity for weeks now. Really wish they'd ease up on the light grind. I did 2 hours straight of garuda Hm in bonus the other day and I'm still only at robust. I've been at this since this stage was released doing my daily roulettes with a few times of grinding for hours and this is all I have so far.

2) Progressing it and want go to the end!

Currently on my fourth Animus book for my Bravura. I'm looking forward to getting to the end! There's already someone on Balmung I keep crossing paths with who has the Ragnarok, and I think it looks very cool!

I really can't wait to hear more details on the new Jobs, though! I might even change over to DRK to see how it plays and get its zodiac weapon as well!

One good thing is I can solo most of the FATEs on my SCH using my Chocobo to assist with the DPS. time consuming but there isn't always a giant group of people around to take down a FATE. I try to get into FATE parties, too.

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Originally Posted by Lucem

Didn't even think to look in the blues >< just tried it and it does look like a better match! Thanks! ^^

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Pic? /10chars

http://puu.sh/dyO79/f0010bcbac.png

I choose 1. Finished mine, helping some friends with theirs now.

I'll be doing this again for my Scholar when I get to it.

Yeah, I'm in the "working on it desultorily" camp. I've got my curtana and holy shield at the animus level, and I'm working on them very slowly, as I get the gumption to do something about them. I hated the Atma grind, and the books are not horrible, but they're also not much fun... there's nothing in them that makes me think, "Oooh, I want to work on that today!" They just are.

The thing is, though, I glamor over my weapon and shield both, and don't really do a lot of high level end-game content, so who cares if I only have iL110 equipment instead of iL130?

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Just to kill some time, I'd like know how you felt about the relic weapon questchains.

1) Done it all until the very end (so far)!
2) Progressing it and want go to the end!
3) Stopped at some point (say which one ;) )
4) Never cared, usind dropped/tomes ones
5) Anything other.

About, me:
3) I stopped at the books stage. I feel them so grindy I really have aborted any willing to go ahead at the point that I dunno if return to it, even if that part will be eased in the future.

So now I go for dropped/tomes weapons and no care relic anymore.

Share your feelings :cool:

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2) On the Nexus quest for the Veil of Wiyu, Animus quests for Yoshimitsu & Thyrus (Don't ask. I couldn't explain if I tried). Somehow, the Nexus phase seems to get slower and slower each marker. For whatever reason, I convince myself not to to spend soldiery tomes and just get Vajras and a Yagrush.

http://i59.tinypic.com/sl0jlt.jpg
i dont not like rng(atmas,the items u need in dungeons) but everything wasn't too bad

2., here. Working on my Curtana Nexus stage pretty casually, just earning my points through natural play rather than grinding anything. A bit over 2/3 done. Have a Veil of Wiyu Novus, waiting for my Curtana to finish before I start in on Nexus for that. Also have two sets of Atmas waiting, just in case I lose my mind and decide to work on yet another relic.

My impressions of the various relic stages:
- Relic acquisition: The only really enjoyable part of the quest, and the only part that didn't feel like recycled content. It had two dedicated notorious monsters to defeat, monsters that have no other point except to be part of obtaining the relic. Very nice.
- Atma collecting: Was horrible. Now is only slightly terrible. Arguably not a bad way to get post-50 players helping out others with FATEs but collecting twelve items with a low drop rate was RNG hell.
- Animus books: Compared to Atmas was a breath of fresh air; a lot to do, but it was great to have a consistent feel that you were progressing, unlike Atmas where you never knew if you'd be spending four hours for nothing or whether you'd actually find one.
- Novus scroll: Pretty relaxing, as long as you didn't try to grind for extra Alexandrite. Many of the Alexandrite treasure map monster fights were interesting, and gave an actual "new content" feel. It helped that all of them weren't too hard to solo on PLD, with the possible exception of the Cyclops (I beat him consistently now, but back in the day...). It is a bit irritating that there's such an imbalance in materia costs, though; the cost to acquire Materia for my Curtana was pennies compared to all the Crit and Det I needed for my Veil of Wiyu; once again, DPS take it firmly in the shorts.
- Nexus lights: Again, pretty relaxing, but possibly the least imaginitive stage since Atma. 2000 lights seems like it might be a bit on the high side, though - or maybe I'm just feeling pressured since the Zodiac stage came out so quickly on its heels.
- Zodiac construction: No opinion, as I haven't tried it yet.

I was a bit amused by the "storyline" such as it is, with Gerolt and Jalzahn coming up with crazy new ways to pump up your weapon.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Pic? /10chars

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Thanks again! :)

http://i.imgur.com/SdHeIkS.jpg

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Just to kill some time, I'd like know how you felt about the relic weapon questchains.

3) Stopped at some point (say which one ;) )

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This one for me ^^ I stopped at the materia stage due to the quest becoming more of a test of patience then an actual fun fullfilling quest,

(me through the stages)

Stage 1 HM Primals and whatnot: "Oh gee this is kinda fun!"
Sage 2 Glow weapon: "Oh kewl! Something else to spend tokens on!"
Stage 3 ATMA: "Oh...FATES? Well...If I gotta do it then I gotta do it...at least our FC is getting XP in addition!"
Stage 4 Animus: (progressing through the books) *books 1-6* Well....I guess if I have too? *books 7-9* Dear sweet God please drop a meteor on me now.
Stage 5 Mateira: More dungeons AND materia? Just....no...nononononononononononoNO!

3) I stopped at books. I can't afford materia, so why bother advancing it when I know I won't be able to advance my weapon past that stage?

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Originally Posted by Lucem

You finished yours then I take it? The grind and RNG are 'difficult' enough to stop a lot of players getting them and keeping them moaning about how hard it is or how it's not worth it. I stick by what I said, if it was easy and required no effort/grind EVERYONE would be running around with one.

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Doesn't mean you're correct though. Mindlessly grinding stupid content is in no way "hard". Nobody is moaning about it being hard, but about it being tedious and boring because there is absolutely no challenge involved.

And no, mine is not done. Mainly doing it as a little sideproject because Sasuke's Blade look pretty damn good. I'm mainly going for the Poetics/Dreadwyrm weapons...you know, stuff that requires you to do actually challenging content, of which you probably don't have any, right?

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Originally Posted by Elazu

Doesn't mean you're correct though. Mindlessly grinding stupid content is in no way "hard". Nobody is moaning about it being hard, but about it being tedious and boring because there is absolutely no challenge involved.

And no, mine is not done. Mainly doing it as a little sideproject because Sasuke's Blade look pretty damn good. I'm mainly going for the Poetics/Dreadwyrm weapons...you know, stuff that requires you to do actually challenging content, of which you probably don't have any, right?

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Oh stop with the challenging content already. I have tons of friends who are on Coil 3 and beat most of the Ex Primals doing relics as well. Get what makes you happy but stop trying to belittle those who decide getting a relic is worth their time.