Seriously, I see this as a huge missed opportunity. Does Square Enix not see this as a great idea? Supposedly crafting and gathering jobs were supposed to be "equal" to War jobs.
"The big fishing contest" Queue up with 3 other fishers to catch the biggest fish, the biggest fish at the end gets a bonus?
"The Kings New throne" Queue up in a group of 4 gatherers and 4 crafters, You have been locked up in an area where the gatherers must gather the perfect ingredients, then ship them over to each crafter who will make the individual components to create the throne. Then you all work on the final craft by selecting the throne?
What about a new fishing mechanic where if you get a huge fish you may be unable to catch, It announces to other fishermen near you "He's got a big one, go help him!" and they can run over and try to spear it/hook it, put a net under it for you to increase your chances of catching it?
Why are there not gatherer and crafter duties and dungeons?
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12-09-2014, 02:06 AMSakiKojiroWhy are there not gatherer and crafter duties and dungeons?
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12-09-2014, 02:07 AMSakiKojiro
I just think we're really missing the possible camaraderie that would come from crafters and gatherers working together in a more direct way.
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12-09-2014, 02:12 AMLevis
I support this and any other idea for crafters & gatherers to have fun things to do! Even bring back Hamlet Defense, or some new and improved version of it.
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12-09-2014, 02:30 AMSquintina
What I think might be neat is a duty with gatherers/crafters AND the other disciples.
Example: Light party: 1 crafter OR gatherer, 1 healer, 1 DPS, 1 DPS OR TANK.
Duty: Escort crafter/gatherer to specified location and protect from oncoming mobs while the gatherer/crafter does its assigned task.
Monster difficulty adjusts based on whether the last spot is filled by either a DPS or tank (this is so queue times aren't terrible). -
12-09-2014, 02:53 AMSakiKojiro
Those are both great ideas! I'm sure we could think of a bunch of great scenarios for this type of thing.
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12-09-2014, 03:20 AMSessurea
not this again ><
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12-09-2014, 03:32 AMSakiKojiroCare to elaborate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
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12-09-2014, 02:34 PMVorpal_Spork
What would be the boss of the culinarian dungeon? Mayor McCheese from McDonald's?
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12-09-2014, 02:43 PMSquintinaThey have to craft a giant sleep-inducing Eel pie to feed to Mayor McCheese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vorpal_Spork
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12-10-2014, 03:53 PMAirget
They could have a tie in with the planned idea to be able to control a GC unit to enter the older dungeons.
Have it where instead those current dungeon items that are used to craft furniture are only found in 1 or 2 chest they could make it where you go in witha unit of 5, 4 being the NPCs you trained and the player as a Fisher/Botanist/Miner and you progress through the dungeon and go through the dungeons but rather than the main focus be reaching the end of the dungeon, it would be exploration and looking for the nodes to obtain unique materials.
With this though they could add a limit to how often it could be done, like a fatigue for the NPCs when you go on that type of dungeon Duty with them, this way if you wanted to lv with your NPCs in the older dungeons you could still do that and just make the other aspect a time based one that you can do maybe 2-3 times a day. -
12-10-2014, 11:54 PMTiggy
Sounds like a lot of queuing for long periods of boredom for one moment of excitement. I'll pass.
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12-11-2014, 01:36 AMShadygroveQuote:
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This idea has been brought up before. Not just here on this board but by the devs in 1. beta.Quote:
Originally Posted by SakiKojiro
Dungeons for crafters and fishers were implemented in FFXI's Moblin Maze Mongers. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ca...n_Maze_Mongers -
12-13-2014, 04:41 AMSibyllWasn't Hamlet Defense something that combined DoW/M with DoH/L? It sounds like it could be a reasonably fun idea if the objectives were along the lines of DoL provide resources for DoH to craft combat upgrades or stationary defense for the DoW/M to use. You could even remove class restrictions as a composition of mostly DoW/M would have numbers while a composition of more DoL/DoH would have better upgrades/defenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadygrove
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12-13-2014, 11:33 AMTheodoreMcIntyre
The way I always figured crafter/gatherer dungeons would work is:
Full party with the typical 1 tank, 2 DPS, one healer setup, then 2 gatherers, 2 crafters.
Think along the lines of a Tower Defense game.
The main battle party works to cull and slow down the monsters coming through with every wave, increasing in difficulty as the next wave comes.
The gatherers all have nodes and gathering points to gather items called "Resources", literally just "resources". Generic all-purpose name for an all-purpose material.
The crafters use these Resources to craft and use various items around the dungeon which help the battle and support the battle party while they beat down the monsters.
The better the gatherer, the more HQ resources you get, which makes it easier to HQ the things around the dungeon to make them stronger.
Or, if your crafters are good enough, they can just focus on getting as many as resources as possible.
This helps keeps the monsters down and the more waves you make it through gives you a better reward, with a chest for the crafters, a chest for the gatherers, and a chest for the battle party, giving them all a reason to play on the type of class they need stuff on. I dunno really what the reward would be, maybe like materia or demimateria something, but I'm sure SE could figure that out.