DDOS what?

So.. let me get this straight? a DDOS attack is when people overload the server so it throws people off?

Firstly, who the heck does that? what is the point

Secondly, why can't SE fix it?

last night we couldn't static cos 2 members were continuously disconnecting. and this morning I keep getting disconnected.

I am not quite sure i understand what is going on and why its going on.

It's about sending packets of information, the way information is sent atm there isn't a clear way to diversify what's legit and what isn't legit because it's like sending mail to a person.

Say someone got your address, and then suddenly you started receiving junk mail from a variety of sources because your address is out there and you can't stop the messages from arriving at your door. That's kind of what DDOS is, it's information being sent and there is no way to say "no this isn't legit I will not accept these packets of information"

They have to take them in and it's because they can't say no that they become over-stressed and cause crashing.

Now to add to that, in an MMO setting, to add in a variable to prevent a DDOS attacking would mean there would be a higher chance at latency because now you would have this gate that blocks information from arriving before it can be sent to the servers. So trying to block packets like that isn't a logical way to do it because it means the game process will be slower.

It's sad really because people do just do it to cause grief, there is no reason behind it other than wanting to be noticed and quite honestly having to create a failsafe that would potentially decrease the responsiveness of gameplay is a catch22. Because on one hand you may get rid of the DDOS but now you have this new variable that will slow down server response indefinitely, and then on the otherhand there is this DDOS issue while random and sporadic in when it can occur, is a circumstance which isn't an everyday occurrence, so sadly it becomes one of those things where you bite your lip and let it ride and just hope people don't be dicks again.

But then again that's the other thing about it, attacks are sporadic, because if I"m not mistaken, the more frequent the attacks become, the easier it becomes to track them, so doing a big hit or striking hard and fast and then covering their tracks, allows them the chance to be noticed without being caught, cause if they make a habit out of being noticed it will make it easier for them to get caught.

DDoS attacks are hard to defend against because it puts a severe load on the server, and it becomes hard to distinguish between an attack and a normal 'login' attempt. They've been used multiple times in the past, by disgruntled players, by people who want to extort money from businesses by essentially holding their servers to ransom, and by others with a more political agenda.

It's precisely because it's so difficult to defend against which makes it an effective way of shutting down servers. Why these people are DDoS'ing the server is the real question, but I suspect we'll never get an answer. Probably some annoyed player who's mates left WoW to join Eorzea and he's been left all on his own as a result...

DDOS is short for Distributed Denial of Service.

DDOS is a type of DOS attack where multiple compromised systems -- which are usually infected with a Trojan -- are used to target a single system causing a Denial of Service (DoS) attack. Victims of a DDoS attack consist of both the end targeted system and all systems maliciously used and controlled by the hacker in the distributed attack.

In a DDoS attack, the incoming traffic flooding the victim originates from many different sources – potentially hundreds of thousands or more. This effectively makes it impossible to stop the attack simply by blocking a single IP address; plus, it is very difficult to distinguish legitimate user traffic from attack traffic when spread across so many points of origin.

thanks for the info.. man people can be dicks sometimes

guess i will go play something else today.. consider me Denied of Service lol

Yup, game is near unplayable for me as well Denzel and has been for the last week. It has disrupted multiple static sessions and slowed down my levelling of ninja massively by being booted off dungeons and while queuing. I am extremely frustrated to say the least.

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Firstly, who the heck does that? what is the point

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They're trolls. they do it to cause you misery out of a misanthropic desire for attention.

hmmm i haven't had a single problem on gilgamesh but i know other that have. it's good to be lucky :b

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Firstly, who the heck does that? what is the point

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some fat nerd loser who think he's badass behind his momma's computer. they think that all the women in the world will love them for taking down someone else's computers.

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some fat nerd loser who think he's badass behind his momma's computer. they think that all the women in the world will love them for taking down someone else's computers.

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if they're behind their mom's computer then they're going to jail very soon. lol

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if they're behind their mom's computer then they're going to jail very soon. lol

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it's kind of sad, but DDoSers probably really are using their mom's computer for the attacks.

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if they're behind their mom's computer then they're going to jail very soon. lol

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their moms should be going to jail too, for allowing those pathetic persons to live in their basements and annoying people who don't even know them.

Most people who DDoS just think it's fun, but (and this one shouldn't be a reason to DDoS SE atm) some people use it as a method of protest, so if a company or government does something a lot of people don't like, they will group together to take down the company or government websites.

Also for everyone saying "herp derp they live in their mom's basement" remember what the stereotype of MMO players was not too long ago.

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It is stereotypical to connect DDoS with kids who just like to protest or are bored.
Recently it is used as weapon in cyberwar and i doubt that SE is their target, its more likely the SE servers are just in their crossfire!

new massive account ban

DDoS starting the following day.

I'm sure there is no connection :rolleyes:

Also, multiplication of bots farming to get back to lv50.. Bah, losers.

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It is stereotypical to connect DDoS with kids who just like to protest or are bored.
Recently it is used as weapon in cyberwar and i doubt that SE is their target, its more likely the SE servers are just in their crossfire!

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A lot of truth in this statement. We all get routed into narrow corridors to get to the game servers... and all 7 of them are gated through major metropolitan areas. When these attacks are in full force, they stress the nodes along these routes and there is a lot of peripheral impact to other networks that are using those same nodes. It goes on all the time, and creates a major congestion problem in general not only in the US and Canada, but other major countries as well.