2.5, 3.0 and FCoB unlock

Unlike previous patch cycles, there won't be a 2.6 to remove all limits of raids, do you think they should remove loot restriction from FCoB in 2.5?

After 2.5 comes the expansion, which will most likely invalidate FCoB gear even more than previous raid gear, and considering how even at the end of 2.38 many people couldn't get the gear they wanted due to the weekly lockout I think it would be better to remove the lockout earlier this time.

Note: I'm not talking about early echo or nerfs.

2.5 is too damn early to be lifting restrictions on the final coil and said coil is only a month old. Wait till the 3.0 expansion for any change to happen.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

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Yes they should, infact they should remove any kind of lockouts and restrictions this game have right now, after months of playing with them, I feel like in a free to play but with a monthly sub.

The only reason of all this lockouts is to keep our monthly subs going while trying to make the huge gear treadmill not too obvious this game have right now. :mad:

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

2.5 is too damn early to be lifting restrictions on the final coil and said coil is only a month old. Wait till the 3.0 expansion for any change to happen.

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3.0??? No one is going to give a shit about coil when everyone is levelling to 60 and starting end game there.

Rumor has it that 2.5 is going to consist of two major patches under 2.5. 1st Half of 2.5 might be the usual major part of a patch. Primal battle, story. And the 2nd Half of 2.5 will probably lead us into 3.0. We'll have to wait till the FanFest over in Japan next month to here more concrete information.

yes they have to lift all current lockouts with 2.5 doing it any later is bullshit right there while nobody will care about it anymore once xpac hits. allow people to finish thier current gear in progress before you "reset" all with lvl 60 gear. i mean look the final ct comes with patch 2.5 now imagine it has a weekly loot lockout and only 6-8 weeks later comes lvl 60 and the xpac WHY EVEN BOTHER running it it that case? it would a waste of time as by the time you get most of your gear done its useless within a day of leveling.

lockouts need to be lifted atleast 8 weeks BEFORE the expansions launch especially coil since bad rng prevents people from getting thier stuff because we still have this shitty rng loot with lockouts on top. this is not the same as 2.4 or 2.2 was because this time the cap increase means everyone will stop running current content because of that the second the addon is released. its a special case.

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This isnt world off warcraft ppl dont think that the gear from the get go in Heavensward will out gear 130 -.- i guarantee that 110-130 (120 from final CT) will be very relevant all the way to 60 until next raiding content comes out.

Just be patient and wait 30 more days for more info.

Not before 3.0
2.4 FCoB with weekly lockout
2.5 CE 3 with weekly item lockout (+ chance to upgrade poetry gear without doing FCoB)
3.0 Remove all weekly lockouts from 2.4 and 2.5 and adding Echo to FCoB
3.1 Big FCoB nerf to make it farmable for everyone

Also I bet that the first dungeon over lv50 in 3.0 drop ilevel 110 gear (2.5 dungeons would give ilevel 100 gear. Maybe the soldiery gear?)

2.5 already? jeez my head hurts 2.4 just came out can we just enjoy it a bit more

Probably just before 3.0, or just after, they will likely release the much mentioned "story mode" version of coil.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

Unlike previous patch cycles, there won't be a 2.6 to remove all limits of raids, do you think they should remove loot restriction from FCoB in 2.5?

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2.55 /10char

2.5 may be the last patch in this version of the game until 3.0 but remember 2.5 comes in 2 parts

2.5P1 is the initial patch of 2.5 and 2.5P2 will be the ending of the 2.x story line (known as the zodiark arc) most likely the FCoB will be put in duty finder come 2.5p1 and will be farmable and able to be solo DFable in 2.5p2

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Originally Posted by Massterchef

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You must be right Sir or Madam, letting people actually enjoying the game without any kind of lockouts of restriction is a punishable sin, infact we all should be thanksful to earn 450 tokens a week, thanksful for being able to play and gear only one job over the 10 jobs every major patch and thanksful for having no purpose into creating/joining a FC than enjoying a glorified chat room.

Yes, thank you a lot for playing Final Lockouts XIV and please look forward to it for more daily/weekly limitations!

Lockouts are a pacing mechanism because we obsolete content every 6 months. Shocker, but people can play content faster than a team can program it. You can play 99% of the game in 110 free farm gear on any job you want. Just because you can't 130 10 jobs in a week only needed for 3 fights in the game does not justify removal of the pacing mechanisms in place.

As for op, it's the same pattern. 2.5 ct and buffing sold tome sources. 2.5x upgrade items added to ct. 2.59 (whatever last update # before 3.0 is) final relic upgrade, increasing upgrade items in new ct/fcob. Story arc to 3.0.

Don't know why people think they are going to drastically shake up the formula they have gone by to this point so much. 3.0 is the shake up. Business as usual till then.

2.45 - Marriage system, relic upgrade to i120
2.5 End of Crystal Tower arc - dropping of Carbontwine/Carboncoat/EATs in World of Darkness 24p raid with weekly lockout, Relic upgrade to i130
2.55 End of Zodiark story, preparation for 3.0 - FCoB in DF, but not able to be solo-queued, final Relic upgrade/end of story to i135-140 (depends on how "ultimate" they want to make it)
3.0 Heavensward - FCoB solo-queueable with nerfs to T10-12, new Lv60 endgame

They've already mentioned instituting a system to soften the lockout restrictions for Coil, we just don't have details yet.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

They've already mentioned instituting a system to soften the lockout restrictions for Coil, we just don't have details yet.

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I know, but this is not the same, I'm wondering if people would want / if people think SE should implement a full removal a month or two before Heavensward, their proposed system is a partial removal, lowering the chance to get a drop.

There most likely will be a 2.5X patch that will unlock final coil like 1 month before the expansion comes out as kind of like a prep patch for the expansion.