Can we get new leveling gear?

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11-24-2014, 12:53 PM
Arkine

Can we get new leveling gear?

ARR has been out for over a year now, and we didn't get any new gear that isn't lv1 glamors or lv50 endgame gear.

We did not get a single new Lv2-49 item in game since it was released. Not counting event items and daggers.

It's even more strange since with the introduction of NIN, I was expecting a number of eastern style leveling clothes to match it, but we didn't get any.

This makes me wonder if this trend will continue when Heavensward launches. Can we just forget about getting any new leveling items and settle for the 1.0 rags we have right now? (Remember that a lot of those sets came with bets to complete the look, but after their removal, a lot of this gear looks simplistic and boring.)

I know how much Yoshi and his crew love cutting corners, but here's to hoping 3.0 comes stock-full of new leveling gear.
11-24-2014, 12:59 PM
Zumi

That is because the majority of the time in the game is spent at endgame level 50 not leveling.
11-24-2014, 01:11 PM
Reokudo

It'd actually be neat if we had the "Heirloom" type equipment WoW had. Gear you don't have to replace till you're at 50, levels up with you, and gives you a combined exp bonus per piece you wear.
11-24-2014, 01:17 PM
Arkine

I'm happy with a few pieces of lv2-49 gear added every patch to spice up things, and maybe replace some 1.0 gear. The lv32 Brayflox sets are an example of good leveling gear. They look much better than anything you can get all the way to AF armor. Maybe more of these new designs thrown into leveling dungeons.

1.0 Designs were good for their time, but I'd love to see an upgrade to the leveling sets we have available.

Not all glamor gear needs to be lv1, annoying to get, and useless.
11-24-2014, 01:24 PM
Squa11_Leonhart

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Originally Posted by Reokudo

It'd actually be neat if we had the "Heirloom" type equipment WoW had. Gear you don't have to replace till you're at 50, levels up with you, and gives you a combined exp bonus per piece you wear.

Wow is for children, too damn easy because of things like 'heirloom' gear.
11-24-2014, 01:28 PM
coldreactive

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Originally Posted by Reokudo

It'd actually be neat if we had the "Heirloom" type equipment WoW had. Gear you don't have to replace till you're at 50, levels up with you, and gives you a combined exp bonus per piece you wear.

This reminds me of "Legacy" Armor in Free to plays, and is often shunned upon because it's often a cop-out to actual armor designs and modeling. I doubt the developers want to deal with that kind of thing. Adding this kind of armor would make all the other armor useless pretty much, as this "armor" would look cool off the bat, and you'd never need to roll on stuff like Plundered set in Sastasha, which you can sell for money. Are you also trying to put crafters out of a job, and make armor prices even higher?
11-24-2014, 01:33 PM
WinterSolstice

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Originally Posted by Reokudo

It'd actually be neat if we had the "Heirloom" type equipment WoW had. Gear you don't have to replace till you're at 50, levels up with you, and gives you a combined exp bonus per piece you wear.

I'd personally vote to not have any more of WoW's nonsense to come into this game. It's ideas like that nonsense "heirloom" system that turn modern gamers into what they are - lazy, entitled, and impatient.
11-24-2014, 02:12 PM
StouterTaru

I wouldn't be surprised to see them boost the main scenario quest exp to be enough to get you to 50 by itself, boost the armory bonus, or introduce more moogle cap type gear for mid levels. There's enough content at 50 to get rid of a lot of the level grind. But with new jobs in 3.0, don't expect it until at least 3.1
11-24-2014, 03:07 PM
coldreactive

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I wouldn't be surprised to see them boost the main scenario quest exp to be enough to get you to 50 by itself, boost the armory bonus, or introduce more moogle cap type gear for mid levels. There's enough content at 50 to get rid of a lot of the level grind. But with new jobs in 3.0, don't expect it until at least 3.1

Considering I could get to level 50 in 3-7 days when 2.0 released (With one class), this is highly unlikely. Most of it was FATE and guildleves, and some dungeon runs. (Mind you, when 2.0 released, we had an insane amount of arcanists running around just like rogues.) I also only took sidequests that were at most, 5 levels under me, in case I wanted to level other classes. I also deleted that character and made this one, and I still got to level 50 in a week or two with one class. (Both times, I was DPS. The second time was during 2.1)

I know of three characters that also only play one class/job, and won't bother to level anything else.
11-24-2014, 06:48 PM
Squa11_Leonhart

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Originally Posted by coldreactive

Considering I could get to level 50 in 3-7 days when 2.0 released (With one class), this is highly unlikely. Most of it was FATE and guildleves, and some dungeon runs. (Mind you, when 2.0 released, we had an insane amount of arcanists running around just like rogues.) I also only took sidequests that were at most, 5 levels under me, in case I wanted to level other classes. I also deleted that character and made this one, and I still got to level 50 in a week or two with one class. (Both times, I was DPS. The second time was during 2.1)

I know of three characters that also only play one class/job, and won't bother to level anything else.

Which would make them utterly useless for highlevel end game raiding due to the lack of cross class abilities.
11-25-2014, 02:20 AM
Yukiko

"Monster Hunter" -> Upgrading gear with adding Stuff -> evolving into endgame from crap
11-25-2014, 02:23 AM
Corfish

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

Wow is for children, too damn easy because of things like 'heirloom' gear.

For people just starting out in wow they have 100 levels to grind through to catch up to end game. Equipment to help people level up is no big deal, it just speeds up the worst part of MMOs.
11-25-2014, 02:24 AM
UltimateAoe2

Don't get why you would want new leveling gear, when:
1. Someone stated that the game focuses on when you hit level 50 (raids, new dungeons, etc.)
2. It's easy as hell to level from 1-50. You just need motivation.
3. It takes probably 3-7 days, maybe more than a week to level 50 if you're doing it casually (i.e.: if you're crafting, or don't have enough time.)

I think what you're talking about is the BoA Gear, or Bind on Account, from WoW. Gives major EXP boosts for a major price from your guild (1.5k gold a piece, but I guess that isn't much in WoW anymore.)
It may be a good asset, but let's face it...this isn't WoW!
11-25-2014, 02:25 AM
coldreactive

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Originally Posted by Corfish

For people just starting out in wow they have 100 levels to grind through to catch up to end game. Equipment to help people level up is no big deal, it just speeds up the worst part of MMOs.

Yes, but. leveling too fast means that some people can get confused as to what quests are really the main story, and what aren't. I know some people still don't know what quests are main scenario and what aren't. I also know that some people think they can't have more than one job crystal. Those latter people will hit level 30 then get all their other classes to level 30 before they actually choose a job.
11-25-2014, 02:27 AM
Corfish

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Originally Posted by coldreactive

Yes, but. leveling too fast means that some people can get confused as to what quests are really the main story, and what aren't. I know some people still don't know what quests are main scenario and what aren't. I also know that some people think they can't have more than one job crystal.

That's just people not reading the tutorials, which explain all of that. So I can't feel too much pity about that.
11-25-2014, 02:29 AM
coldreactive

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Originally Posted by Corfish

That's just people not reading the tutorials, which explain all of that. So I can't feel too much pity about that.

Okay fine. The armor will then make it so people skip all the cutscenes and not read anything. This game is meant to focus on the lore, and story, not skipping everything and immediately getting to end-game. Some things you just can't re-watch in the unending journey either.
11-25-2014, 02:41 AM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

"Monster Hunter" -> Upgrading gear with adding Stuff -> evolving into endgame from crap

We have something like this already for some gear

Wrapped Maple Longbow:
x1 Maple Longbow
x1 Hard Leather
x2 Ash Branch
11-25-2014, 03:06 AM
Yukiko

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Originally Posted by Felis

We have something like this already for some gear

Wrapped Maple Longbow:
x1 Maple Longbow
x1 Hard Leather
x2 Ash Branch

Sorry, but that not it. Basically we can "repair" a Bow, but not evolving.
11-25-2014, 10:42 AM
Squa11_Leonhart

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Originally Posted by Corfish

For people just starting out in wow they have 100 levels to grind through to catch up to end game. Equipment to help people level up is no big deal, it just speeds up the worst part of MMOs.

if you can get 10 levels on the night of release of an expansion pack(and i've seen it), i don't think 100 levels are all that hard to get from scratch.

WoW is for self-entitled children who want everything immediately.

Skipping 90 levels is why there are so many bad WoW players now.
11-27-2014, 12:39 AM
Arkine

Ya'all are making me feel bad for taking 3 weeks to level ninja to 50... By just doing roulette then capping off the level with hunting log entries and leves.
11-27-2014, 01:48 AM
Teryaani

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Originally Posted by Arkine

Ya'all are making me feel bad for taking 3 weeks to level ninja to 50... By just doing roulette then capping off the level with hunting log entries and leves.

You shouldn't feel bad. I've been sitting at 42 for the last two weeks. It just didn't feel that critical to speed level something that I wasn't going to play that much.

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

if you can get 10 levels on the night of release of an expansion pack(and i've seen it), i don't think 100 levels are all that hard to get from scratch.

WoW is for self-entitled children who want everything immediately.

Skipping 90 levels is why there are so many bad WoW players now.

Heirlooms aren't the issue there, you end up with a 30%-40% xp buff? That's really nice and all, especially when combined with a rested buff and the passive guild buff, but you still have to go through the levels and do the content. If a player in looms plays poorly, it reflects poorly on them, not on the heirlooms.

The "buy a 90" program is a problem though... that's just asking for bad things.

Some people would take the time to learn the class I'm sure, but I'd bet that a large number don't bother.