Healer Roulette Bonus

Needs to be more. Before Exodus crashed, throughout all the roulettes I've queued for, bonus was for tanks, tanks, tanks. Rarely see Healer bonus, and even fewer DPS ones. Yes, we need tanks in dungeons, but someone has to keep them and the DPS alive. Constant Tank bonuses has led from what I've seen, an increase in tanks played by players who have no business being tanks. They want that bonus is all. WE have to suffer their incompetence and try to heal past it. My poor Eos has taken far too many beatings today, yet she kept hate better than the assigned tank. You'd think she'd get a bonus for that.

Overall, I'm suggesting spreading the wealth. Healers and DPS enjoy bonuses too. It's not all about the tank.

I ran a tank to 50 with that purpose only. It does roulettes and nothing else!
The only side-effect is that now I'm asked in FC more for my tanking than healing. The healer in me suffers :)

I agree with the topic.

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Originally Posted by Urtear

My poor Eos has taken far too many beatings.

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Yeah you don't need that bonus cuz all u schs do is technically stay in cs mode and dps cuz u can just let ur fairies heal the party.
So kinda yea.
But if u were actually self tanking the mobs urself then that calls for the
" tank bonus " yea?

It'll be healer bonus ahoy once the expansion hits, patience my pretties!

I play White Mage before the roulette system was introduced to the game. At that time the 'bonus' for Adventurer in Need was most of the time Tank/Healer, and I always waited the bonus to change to Healer so I can engage into battle.

DPS luck with bonus was mostly in 8-Players duties, and very rare on the light party runs. When Patch 2.2 was released with the new 'Hard Mode' dungeons, something fishy happened, MOST tanks (WAR & PLD), were leveling up CNJ/WHM and actually prefer to run as White Mage. Then the 'Bonus' started to be in favour of the least on the run (ie Tanks), and its up 'till today. It has been months since I saw High Level or Expert Level with a Bonus for Healers.

Hopefully, when 3.0 FFXIV:Heavensward will be released; Healers will be back in-need with all DarkKnight frenzy all about. That is, if there won't be a spree on any new healing class/job.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Yeah you don't need that bonus cuz all u schs do is technically stay in cs mode and dps cuz u can just let ur fairies heal the party.
So kinda yea.
But if u were actually self tanking the mobs urself then that calls for the
" tank bonus " yea?

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Its true I spend 95% of my time in CS the other 5% is when the scrub selene cant carry the heals.

While I don't think it's wrong that tanks get bonuses the most often (since the role is in the highest demand), I do think there is a different problem with role bonuses. There will often be cases where I can get an instant queue for a roulette as a healer (generally low level or guildhest, but sometimes others), but the bonus is set for tanks. The problem is that the bonus doesn't update often enough to account for the real demand, so my entry time is often faster when it is not a healer bonus than when it is.

Either the rate of demand needs to refresh more quickly, or there needs to be a way for both tanks and healers to benefit from the bonus when both roles are needed. I'm sure it would help the rogues/ninjas and other dps with long queue times in lower level dungeons as well, so such a change would be mutually beneficial to everyone.

On Malboro, I see tank all the time. However, sometimes only Trials asks for healer.

But you know, I sometimes still get the bonus if I'm on a different role than requested, so long as I don't use "join in progress".

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Yeah you don't need that bonus cuz all u schs do is technically stay in cs mode and dps cuz u can just let ur fairies heal the party.
So kinda yea.
But if u were actually self tanking the mobs urself then that calls for the
" tank bonus " yea?

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If you let my cute little Eos take hate from you by herself, you shouldn't be a tank. Period. Point is, near constant tank bonuses give rise to tanks who don't know what Flash is, won't use Overpower, first Physick or Eos' Embrace will steal hate, severely undergeared or improper gear wearing spuds. And for those that suffer to get through the dungeon, it's that 'tank' that gets the bonus. Vote kick them, and an even worse one joins in. I'm thinking you fit this category, seeing how you took offense. Shoe fits, wear it.

The bonus isnt even that good?

Um, the bonuses are based on demand and DO update in real time. If you constantly open/close the DF window and check the item you're queuing for, it will change; sometimes from two seconds ago. This isn't being unfair to healers, it just meals there are more DPS and healers already in the queue and there are parties out there in desperate need of tanks.

Also, to the ones that say they get instant queues as healers even when it lists Tank as the bonus class -- same thing. That changes from one second to the next as parties fill up, and also the demand.

This is a factor beyond S-E's control. You NEED those so-called undeserving tanks to queue up, or you'll never see the gil bonus.

I think what OP is saying, is that players main a class other than tank but tank for insta queue and the bonus which isn't much. I use to main both tank and heals but found tanking in this game to not be very enjoyable. I set a moderate pace but had some dps that liked to pull for me while marking with a macro and it got old. I liked healing so I went that way. I find I am much more tolerant of wipes, even the dumb ones as a healer than as a tank and can stick with learning content longer that way.