EX Roulette is Rigged

I do the EX Roulette daily for my alexandrite without fail. 7 times in a row I have gotten Satasha. Just today I jumped into the roulette 3 times (forgot to get the map quest the first time) and all 3 have been Satasha, making it 10 times in a row. That is such a statistical outlier that makes me question the randomizer.

I'm done with the roulette for a week at least. I'll try to farm up my alexandrite some other way (which won't be from FATE grinding.)

I highly doubt it's rigged, the devs won't assign particular preferences to particular dungeons unless that dungeon is missing a particular role.

I can agree with Kari. Out of 10 runs, i play Satasha 8 times, Snowcloak 2 times and so far, i never got into Quarn with roulette. Its just as broken as all other roulettes are.

FC that I'm in has the same jinx going on with most ex roulette netting people into Sastasha.

I tend to get Snowcloak and Qarn as equally as I get Sastasha.

I've gotten snowcloak the most. Sastasha twice and Quarn once.

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Qarn is the one I almost never get. Both Snowcloak and Sastasha have come up a good amount.

Most of the time I get Snowcloak, Qarn is the dungeon I get least. I think OP it is just the chance of the draw.

Been getting all 3 on both my char.

Main as tank, mostly Qarn and Snow cloak with occasional Sastasha.
Alt as healer, mostly Satasha and Qarn with occasional Snow cloak

I mostly get snowcloak, sometimes Qarn, rarely Sastasha. I think its random just SE RNG

I mostly get Sastasha, I breathe a sigh of relief if I get Snowcloak, Qarn is also much better than Sas... I just can't stand Sas.

It just depends which are the most popular dungeons since these can be queued for on their own too. Ex Roulette will put you into whatever has slots available in the queue so it'll be the ones least popular a lot of the time. Honestly I've had a mix of runs often Qarn though more recently seeing way more Snowcloak or Sastasha. I think Snowcloak is the most popular to run since it can be done pretty fast so you'll probably see it the least on roulette because of demand.

As MX said, it's not "random" in the sense of the game picks whatever dungeon it feels like, but it chooses a dungeon based on what needs people to fill in the slots fast. Sastasha Hard seems to be the least played dungeon, so the game is going to throw you there so people can start playing. It's a "roulette" because you don't know what you are signing up for.

I do not know if it is rigged, but it should be rigged in that you should be placed in groups for whatever dungeon has had people waiting the longest in queue for. If that means the longest queues are for satasha then that is what DR people should be placed in, if it is snowcloak that has had a group of people waiting in queue for longest time then that is what DR people should be added to. Remember DR is not primarily to service old players who have run it million times before and just in it for the soldiery/poetics. It's primary purpose is the people who need help completing places and/or need help getting people to run it with them due to long queues by putting DR people into those groups to help them while getting a nice bonus incentive for helping.

I've mostly had Snowcloak, then Qarn and Sastasha are roughly the same. As folk have said, it depends on people queuing for individual dungeons. Snowcloak is likely the busiest on reset day due to people trying to cap Poetics, for example. Time of day probably has an impact on it as well.

I once got Stone Vigil (Hard) 23 straight times on EX roulette. This is not a lie or an embellishment. My FC thought it was hilarious. I know the odds of that happening are beyond statistically possible, so I am convinced there must be something to it.

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smokespear

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Originally Posted by silvermoon383

I do the EX Roulette daily for my alexandrite without fail. 7 times in a row I have gotten Satasha.

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What's the problem ? You cant do Sastasha ?

It's no, it's not complete RNG, you can get into a donjon with players that are not queuing with expert roulette.
You can for exemple, if you're a healer, and a tank and 2 DPS are waiting for a healer for Sastasha, you get with them in Sastasha (that's just an exemple to show how it work)

Qarn today had Sastasha the last two days in a row there really is no real pattern to any roulette you just need to be prepared to enter any of the dungeons on the list and not whichever one you'd rather do. I'm not really sure how the DF handles it if there are multiple runs with an open slow for all three if it just picks one randomly or it puts you into the one waiting for the longest time. The latter does make sense. Getting the same dungeon multiple days in a row is just being unlucky with RNG but there are only 3 dungeons in this roulette so there is a 1 in 3 chance of getting whichever one you like the least. Sastasha isn't really that bad except for a last boss that drags on or if you get a new DRG that instead of stunning the tail whip runs around in circles >.>.

We have someone in our FC that has been getting sasti for the last 2 weeks or so... even when we are fully premade...

IIRC, each dungeon only has so many instance servers available for it. That's why you used to get WP/AK queues where you'd have a full party, but be waiting on an available instance for 30+ minutes. I suspect that, if a roulette party is formed entirely of rouletters, it throws you into whatever dungeon has the most instance servers available.

And that's gonna be Sastasha, 'cause ain't nobody queuin' for that.

I have yet to get Snowcloak, but I can say it's about even Sastasha and Qarn. I've been getting them without fail every day since maybe day 3 of the release. I loved running Snowcloak, but I don't think if I can remember the mechanics now! :D

edit- update - I got Snowcloak for the first time today. Second time through since it was introduced. I really like that dungeon, and I did it in all glamoured "dream" gear, so it was very Christmas-y. :D

For me (PLD) I get Qarn like 50%, Snow Cloak 30% and Sastasha 20%.

The dungeons that keep coming up are the ones that are being farmed the most because they're the fastest. Sastasha is the shortest of this batch (Snowcloak a close second), just like Stone Vigil was in 2.3, Brayflox in 2.2, and Haukke in 2.1. Qarn doesn't have as many places where you can pull multiple mob groups and AOE them, which is a key factor in speedruns.

for a 1/3rd chance of appearing, Sastasha Hm sure is damn often for my roulettes (and most of my FC mates' roulettes too!)
It wouldn't have been so bad if the boss wouldn't have been a freaking rehashed boss (Kraken) and wouldn't have had freaking millions of HP (at least it feels like it)

Qarn 50% Sastasha 49% Snow 1% so far

I mostly get Snowcloak, but that's when I queue as Monk....if I queue as scholar I usually get Qarn or Sastasha

Here, have one of them wordy document thingies that them folks what work at colleges write.

http://www.drjudithorloff.com/Free-A...k-Patterns.pdf

I am getting Qarn every single time, using three different characters across two different servers. I say they are rigged all right!! All I want is Snowcloak every single time, and none of the other dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

I am getting Qarn every single time, using three different characters across two different servers. I say they are rigged all right!! All I want is Snowcloak every single time, and none of the other dungeons.

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And so does everyone else and that's where the problem lies XD

Personally I'm getting really tired of Sastasha already. I've gotten Snowcloak and Qarn maybe twice each in roulette and the rest has been Sastasha HM. I know it's a roulette and random is random, but damn if it doesn't feel annoying.

WHM, Qarn five-days in a row. Should I complain? Nah!

Lol at "making it 10 times in a row" and "That is such a statistical outlier" such presentation of statistic knowledge.

It's very important to keep in mind that the roulettes aren't RNG simply because they queue you up with people who are NOT queuing for roulette and are instead queuing for a dungeon that is in the said roulette list.. the fact of people queuing up more for one specific dungeon in the roulette list (which happened a LOT due to people running brayflox so much back in 2.2) can cause the roulette to put you in the same dungeon over and over, pretty simple stuff.

I'm pretty even on which dungeon I get into, though it feels like my results are skewed toward:
- When I'm queuing with a full group, it's Snowcloak.
- When I queue solo DPS, it's Sastasha.
- When I queue in-progress (any role), it's Qarn.