ACC for smn and pet

how mant acc that smn and pet (in case is GARUDA) need in T10-13
come to brainstorm !!!

491 for t10
504 for t11
525~ for t12
535~ for t13

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Originally Posted by Sunako

491 for t10
504 for t11
525~ for t12
535~ for t13

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maximum for pet right?

Yes for caster itself you need 515 accuracy or something like that t13

Here is a question pertaining to this, 535 is the precited acc cap for T13, but in the gear calculator I have thrown together a set that hits 534 for more favorable secondary stats. How often is garuda going to miss being 1 below the cap and how can I find out if those misses are worth/not worth the secondary stat increases?

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Originally Posted by Lethorian

Here is a question pertaining to this, 535 is the precited acc cap for T13, but in the gear calculator I have thrown together a set that hits 534 for more favorable secondary stats. How often is garuda going to miss being 1 below the cap and how can I find out if those misses are worth/not worth the secondary stat increases?

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Chance is probably 99.5% or something like that

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Originally Posted by Lethorian

Here is a question pertaining to this, 535 is the precited acc cap for T13, but in the gear calculator I have thrown together a set that hits 534 for more favorable secondary stats. How often is garuda going to miss being 1 below the cap and how can I find out if those misses are worth/not worth the secondary stat increases?

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If T9 was anything to go by, I was below ACC cap by 1 point (490) and Garuda maybe missed once or twice on the last phase, only when the boss faced the party to shoot supernovas.

On average imo, if it's only down to about 2 misses or less, then it's fine given the bonuses you could gain from it, and in this gear set I think it's even more so. T13 seems to hit a lot of rears and flanks, so ultimately I wouldn't worry too much about 1 less then ACC cap for Garuda.

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Originally Posted by Lethorian

Here is a question pertaining to this, 535 is the precited acc cap for T13, but in the gear calculator I have thrown together a set that hits 534 for more favorable secondary stats. How often is garuda going to miss being 1 below the cap and how can I find out if those misses are worth/not worth the secondary stat increases?

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i did some theorycrafting way back before 2.4 patch about accuracy for summoners, the stat weight for accuracy between the casters cap and garudas cap was something like 0.250 if i remember correctly, try to use that as a guide.

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Originally Posted by Havenchild

If T9 was anything to go by, I was below ACC cap by 1 point (490) and Garuda maybe missed once or twice on the last phase, only when the boss faced the party to shoot supernovas.

On average imo, if it's only down to about 2 misses or less, then it's fine given the bonuses you could gain from it, and in this gear set I think it's even more so. T13 seems to hit a lot of rears and flanks, so ultimately I wouldn't worry too much about 1 less then ACC cap for Garuda.

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magical damage is always considered to hit the rear of a target, but since garuda only gains a portion of the summoners stats, she needs more accuracy to hit the rear cap

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Originally Posted by Sunako

491 for t10
504 for t11
525~ for t12
535~ for t13

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Not saying you're wrong, but I just want to say I think it's amazing how someone in a forum can just throw down some numbers and everyone immediately accepts it as fact. I guess people can't even think for themselves anymore.

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Originally Posted by Zamii

magical damage is always considered to hit the rear of a target

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Questioning this based off the fact back then she ONLY missed in the last phase and ONLY during his cast of Supernovas. What happened to the first and 3rd phases where she never missed in all the runs I've did (granted shes always hitting the rear then, according to this)? Wouldn't it be damn near impossible that she would never miss then in several runs if this was true from beginning to end? Unless the boss gains some new accuracy requirement in later phases which would be different.

honestly that just comes down to RNG, i've had misses in all 4 phases of t9 with garuda when i did my testing at 490 accuracy, so unless she is also auto attacking and seeing the misses from those, positioning has no significant impact on summoner dps.

Those are numbers people doing 13 on reddit have been posting. They probably aren't precise but close enough to give yiu an idea of what to shoot for.

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Originally Posted by Sunako

Chance is probably 99.5% or something like that

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I can confirm this since I've run T9 with 490 and the only thing that doesn't get 100% acc is Wind Blade. It's usually either around 99.5-100% depending on RNG/how long the fight is and if the missed attack gets in during the fight duration. Above that, Wind blade dmg is only around 25-27% of SMN's total dmg. So, yeah missing 1 acc is IMO acceptable if it's worth the tradeoff.

Any more "confirmed" number for T13?

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Originally Posted by Zamii

magical damage is always considered to hit the rear of a target, but since garuda only gains a portion of the summoners stats, she needs more accuracy to hit the rear cap

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Not RNG. I tested it on a dummy, Garuda had 100% ACC from the rear at minimum ACC, but had some misses from the front. AFAIK Garuda is most definitely like any non-caster, she abides by frontal, flank, and rear ACC caps as she hits them. Thus why most SMNs gear for flank ACC cap.

Will try to get a fresh test result later tonight.