Let Us Change Skin-Color at Aesthetician

Many Hair Colors don't go with many Skin Colors.

Please... can we have this?

Grekumah.

Don't be Racist

Nope. Phials of Fantasia.

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If you're the gender & race you want, it's a silly cause for Fantasia.

But... Cash shop... Ugh.

I agree. We could spend all day in the sun and get a tan in real life, so this kind of option should be available in the Aesthetician. (never heard of tanning beds?)

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Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

If you're the gender & race you want, it's a silly cause for Fantasia.

But... Cash shop... Ugh.

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Welcome to every MMO in the past 10 years.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I agree. We could spend all day in the sun and get a tan in real life, so this kind of option should be available in the Aesthetician. (never heard of tanning beds?)

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Please point out where tanning-bed were available in the pre-renaissance era which the game is based on.

^Magitek Technology......

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Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

^Magitek Technology......

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Someone just pointed that out in mumble.

I'll give to that point, but considering the vast majority of the Eorzean populous don't have access to Magitek Technology, this is pretty much a null-point.

Eorzea is a continent seperate from Garlea. The Garleans don't like the backward, simplistic nature of most Eorzeans and see us as savages basicly.

So, it's pretty transparent walking through Ul'dah, Gridania or Limsa that Magitek Technology is pretty much non-existant.

Koji, plz.

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TL;DR Main Reason - They won't add it, they're making mad-dosh off of Fantasias.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Please point out where tanning-bed were available in the pre-renaissance era which the game is based on.

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Please point out where magic was available in the pre-renaissance era, please point out where death wasn't final, where people could be hit by a plethora of arrows without bleeding... Please point out where potions that changed your race and gender were available and so on...

The real reason is what Shioban pointed as "main reason", they are profiting from that.

Feel free to blame cash shop supporters.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

The real reason is what Shioban pointed as "main reason", they are profiting from that.

Feel free to blame cash shop supporters.

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Fantasias being a premium service predates the current cash shop. They've been a premium service for much of the game's current lifespan.
And it makes sense. You get two of the freaking things for free already, if you want more you gotta pony up the dough. It's the least intrusive usage of premium services the game currently offers.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

I'll give to that point, but considering the vast majority of the Eorzean populous don't have access to Magitek Technology, this is pretty much a null-point.

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Would this not be possible for Cid to get done? He has the knowledge to build from Magitek armor, and we know he can also make adjustments to it to account for supplies he can't get (the automaton core in the Magitek armor you get for example.)

It's not like you haven't ever had to gather items from the Garleans as well.

Random fun fact about me: I wasted my first fantasia because I misread the text for the OK button, but I had hit cancel. What was my original intention for using it anyways? I had no idea why I had a tattoo on my character's back and none of my friends knew either (downside of being on a non-legacy server I suppose :D) and I wanted to get rid of it.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Fantasias being a premium service predates the current cash shop. They've been a premium service for much of the game's current lifespan.

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Fantasia as a veteran reward has been available for a while, but fantasia as an item for sale has not been up for "much of the game's current lifespan", it was added in 2.28 due to player feedback, they had to use the veteran reward system to distribute them because the cash shop was not ready yet, they always said the bundles we had before were temporal until they had another system to sell them separately, they were always meant to be a cash shop item implemented early due to feedback.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

And it makes sense. You get two of the freaking things for free already, if you want more you gotta pony up the dough. It's the least intrusive usage of premium services the game currently offers.

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All I'm saying is, people shouldn't expect any new feature addition to the aesthetician as long as fantasias are being sold.

(also we only get one for free)

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Originally Posted by Alukah

(also we only get one for free)

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Then I'm wondering how every character I make somehow has two fantasias. I've used two myself before the aesthetician was added and I never spent a dime on them.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Then I'm wondering how every character I make somehow has two fantasias. I've used two myself before the aesthetician was added and I never spent a dime on them.

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New accounts get one. Rank 1 veteran reward. Second Fantasia is for all 1.0 accounts, even the newly created characters on those accounts.

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

New accounts get one. Rank 1 veteran reward. Second Fantasia is for all 1.0 accounts, even the newly created characters on those accounts.

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Thought so. Still, first one's free, others you gotta buy.
Ideal cash shop item to me.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Then I'm wondering how every character I make somehow has two fantasias. I've used two myself before the aesthetician was added and I never spent a dime on them.

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Accounts with legacy status got one at the launch of 2.0 to take advantage of the redesigns needed for the new version (many old looks were invalidated plus access to female Roe and male Miqo)

It is unfortunate, but like already been stated, they won't probably because they advertise using fantasia as making 'minor changes to your character's appearance' in addition to making huge ones.

I would have loved for them to have been able to allow eye-color changes (contact lens, eye-drops, what have you), but I ended up fantasiaing to go play Hyur for a bit. And changed it back on my to Lala. It's a pity since it's close to $10 a pop, but people are willing to pay for it.

I can see it now... that weird Elezen skins you alive and stitch a fresh skin on you after he remove the fresh skin off a Ul'dah refugee...

Hell yeah! Sure as hell gave FFXIV a darker tone.

I dunno... lore wise make-up and hairstyles are easy to explain away. Changing your entire skin and eye colour overnight makes zero sense. He's an aesthetician, not a sorcerer!

^and replacing tattoos on our face so easily makes sense lore-wise too. So does equipping on a tattoo from armor.

If you wanna go there, lore-wise, we could have fruits (it is a FANTASY game) that alter the pigmentation of our skin.

They could implement it to where we lock our character in the Inn Room for 6 hours, feeding him/her 40+ fruits, and praying to the RNG Gods we get the Skin Color we want :)

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Actually, yes they do. Not all tattoos are permanent and there are dozens of cultures who use their own 'tattoos' and change them based on status or age.

Besides which, the tattoos in FFXIV look more like face or body paint than an actual tattoo.

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I like how you skipped half of my post in your reply.

Anyway, the major point being that not everything has to make perfect sense lore-wise (at least, not something superfluous as skin-color change)...

And I said "so easily" meaning 'with ease', alluding to how it's said & done in a flash.

Explain how the process takes place instantaneously if it's supposed to make sense.

"Magic"? Okay then, our skin-color could change via the same "magic".

Even Sammy Sosa thinks this is a bad idea...

Yeah, if he can remove our scars and give us new ones I don't see why we can't have fake tan and contact lenses.

I too would like to be able to change skin color through the Aesthetician.

I think it would encourage people to pick some of the more unique skin tones that are rarely used. (dark red-tan, gray, blue etc)

I also would like to see the option to change eye color.

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Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

Many Hair Colors don't go with many Skin Colors.

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Altering your character's race, appearance, etc should have been made available Aesthetician. But people wanted to pay real money in a cash shop, so... they got it.

/smh

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I agree. We could spend all day in the sun and get a tan in real life, so this kind of option should be available in the Aesthetician. (never heard of tanning beds?)

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how would a Seawolf Roegadyn go from green to blue with sunlight?
Or a Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te from grey blue to white?

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Originally Posted by Violyre

Would this not be possible for Cid to get done? He has the knowledge to build from Magitek armor, and we know he can also make adjustments to it to account for supplies he can't get (the automaton core in the Magitek armor you get for example.)

It's not like you haven't ever had to gather items from the Garleans as well.

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You're missing the point.

Please point out where your average Eorzean citizen has access to this technology.

They just don't. Eorzeans are simple people.


Ignoring all that, from a development point of view, the only thing they're changing is possibly adding in eye-colour adjustments, when skin was last mentioned they declined as it simply wouldn't be feasable, especially with purchasable Fantasias on the horizon.


I'm not saying it's a bad or good idea, I'm saying from a lore and business stand-point they will never add this.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Altering your character's race, appearance, etc should have been made available Aesthetician. But people wanted to pay real money in a cash shop, so... they got it.

/smh

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Nope.

Every MMO offers this service, it's a basic practice.

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Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

^and replacing tattoos on our face so easily makes sense lore-wise too. So does equipping on a tattoo from armor.

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Actually, yes they do. Not all tattoos are permanent and there are dozens of cultures who use their own 'tattoos' and change them based on status or age.

Besides which, the tattoos in FFXIV look more like face or body paint than an actual tattoo.

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Originally Posted by Velox

Accounts with legacy status got one at the launch of 2.0 to take advantage of the redesigns needed for the new version (many old looks were invalidated plus access to female Roe and male Miqo)

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Every 1.0 character have a free redesign available at launch without Fantasia.
first free Fantasia came from the veteran bonus
second free fantasia got also registered to every 1.0 account as a bonus item because there were some problems with the character redesign at launch.

But it would be cool if we can dye our skin. I would use metalic gold on my character ^^

I think the skin color should remain in the realm of Phials.

...Now on the other hand, I DO think that Miqo'te tail "styles" should be an aesthetician option. Not the length, just the style. It just another hair option where a species has visible hair on more than just the top of their heads.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I dunno... lore wise make-up and hairstyles are easy to explain away. Changing your entire skin and eye colour overnight makes zero sense. He's an aesthetician, not a sorcerer!

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We have hair dye...but we don't have colored contacts? Ehhhhh, I don't buy it.

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Originally Posted by Parodine

We have hair dye...but we don't have colored contacts? Ehhhhh, I don't buy it.

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Eorzean's don't have plastic. Or are you suggesting we wear "glass" contact lenses in a world where we're more likely than not to end up in a fight of one form or another?

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Originally Posted by Demeos

Eorzean's don't have plastic. Or are you suggesting we wear "glass" contact lenses in a world where we're more likely than not to end up in a fight of one form or another?

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If we don't have plastic, I'm fascinated to hear how the aesthetican can give us changeable scars. >__>

Stop using lore to justify this, you're looking silly, you very well know lore isn't the reason why none of this will be implemented, it's the good money they are getting from phial of fantasia.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Nope.

Every MMO offers this service, it's a basic practice.

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Just to add to your point, many don't have the stuff we have from the aesthetician for free (well, a paltry gil sum, but no one complains about that). You want ANY sort of alterations, you gotta pony up the cash store currency.
We have it better than most.

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Originally Posted by Parodine

If we don't have plastic, I'm fascinated to hear how the aesthetican can give us changeable scars. >__>

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They're painted on. Those scars are as fake as the suit your character is wearing. An illusion. -_-

Anyways, just because it's called plastic surgery doesn't mean the compound known as plastic is involved.

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Originally Posted by Demeos

They're painted on. Those scars are as fake as the suit your character is wearing. An illusion. -_-

Anyways, just because it's called plastic surgery doesn't mean the compound known as plastic is involved.

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You can't paint crevices into the skin. Unless he's using his scissors in some way...Oh! Then if they're just illusions, let's just use glamour prisms to change the color of our eyes! Because magic.

Look, the point is you're looking for lore reasons to deny it, and it's silly in this fantasy game. If they're gonna deny it because they want money from fantasia sales, sure. But let's not pretend it's for some semblance of lore, shall we?

Lore-lol make for a ridiculous argument in this area.

It's a fantasy game, let your mind imagine how they alter skin-pigmentation if you're bothered.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Just to add to your point, many don't have the stuff we have from the aesthetician for free (well, a paltry gil sum, but no one complains about that). You want ANY sort of alterations, you gotta pony up the cash store currency.
We have it better than most.

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Correct. Most F2P MMOs charge for hair-changes too.

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Originally Posted by Demeos

Eorzean's don't have plastic. Or are you suggesting we wear "glass" contact lenses in a world where we're more likely than not to end up in a fight of one form or another?

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Oddly enough, Yoshida said a while back "Contact Lenses" would be a feasible excuse (During a Live Letter) to add it to the Aesthetician, whether or not they actually add it, is a completely different story.

But disagreed to changing skin-tone or face-shape.

I'd honestly like to see SE meet us in the middle on this one.

We should be able to change hair color, style, eye color, skin tone in game at the esthetician. Miqotes should get the option of tail changes. Maybe make the eye color, skin, and tail changes more expensive then other procedures so that it is a gil sink.

However, if we want to change race, gender--then make that cost a Fantasia from the cash shop. I don't mind paying for those major changes, but its things like paying a cash shop to change something minor like eye and skin color that make me start to feel like I'm being price gouged.