MotD and Login History for Linkshells

I have a 100+ member linkshell and find it really difficult to try to organize any kind of events or leave any notifications, best I'm able to do atm is notify people logged on at the moment and hope word spreads. Would be so much simpler if we could leave a simple message of the day or comment for linkshell members.

Also, with so many members it is nigh impossible to keep track of who is no longer active and who is only semi-active. A status of when each member last logged in would help immensely when trying to remove inactive members.

You want a Free Company. No seriously, at what point does a linkshell tar and a free company begin.

A last long in does feel reasonable though.

MotD would be nice for the reasons you're after. Even better would be an option to mass mail the members of a LS with no option to attach items. Wouldn't mind this functionality for FCs as well.

As for a history of last online data, that's been asked for and shot down. I still wouldn't mind seeing it added but there's a lot of other quality of life style improvements that could be made to the various Social systems. They feel very, very halfhearted currently.

At one point I had 8 linkshells with well over 600 members distributed among them, all of these linkshells for a single purpose, because of the lack of any form of member management we had to disband 7 of these shells and condense into a single shell just to be able to manage our member base..

naysayers: you either dont use linkshells at all for anything important or you dont care

we need a login history for linkshells, and we do need some form of message that can be posted and read in the linkshell to assist with events, or whatever purpose we desire, it would not have to be very large.

Dev already commented on this awhile back, that FC's and LS's server different functions, and LS's will not have the functions of a FC.

motd would be nice, but meh

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

Dev already commented on this awhile back, that FC's and LS's server different functions, and LS's will not have the functions of a FC.

motd would be nice, but meh

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It would be a different story if the request was for LS Housing or LS Actions. It's not. It's a request for the most basic functionality of a social system; letting your know when your friends are online. Hell, we don't even have that. I can't think of an MMO that I've played in the past decade that DID NOT give you the option to be notified if/when your friends are online.

FC = Guild
LS = Chat Channel
Friends List = For Friends


Honestly I do not see why we have both linkshells and Freecompanys to begin with

Yes! /signed as I /sign all the other similar threads. I don't see why SE refuses to add features to LS. I have a LS for EN speakers on my server. We use it to communicate with other EN FCs and JP players who are learning EN. It's FULL. I can only see who is inactive from my FC and weed the list regularly. We definitely need to know who is inactive at the very least. Having something like the FC log in info would be good for event planning since the LS members are scattered around the world.

eta: FCs are merc companies and, as such, each has their own identity and set of goals. People want to be identified with certain FCs. It labels us as we game. LSs are for specific things, like hunts or silliness or, in the case I've given, for coordinating with other FCs and language learning. We have the option of being in 8 LS and 1 FC for variety's sake. I don't understand why LS are put on the back burner by SE when it comes to programming. For many of us, I'd imagine LS are one of our most important methods of communicating with others in game. :/

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Originally Posted by Gralna

Also, with so many members it is nigh impossible to keep track of who is no longer active and who is only semi-active. A status of when each member last logged in would help immensely when trying to remove inactive members.

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Devs already commented on this that implementation of LS and FC are different and LS is basically a chat channel that does not store any information like log history etc, so it's not possible to add last login time for LS (without reworking whole LS system).

I'm all for it, as long as we can turn off getting the MotD on login, or make it so the message only forces itself into the chat log if it's new. Getting hit with potentially 9 MotDs plus server announcements on every log in will get old real quick otherwise.

But I'd be really surprised if we saw it even in 3.0's life cycle. Almost every time SE discusses UI features in any depth, they talk about resource strain and how tightly everything already fits. It's why the buff/debuff display is so limited, it's why Focus Target took so long for PS3, it's why we don't have a text-list inventory option. They've said specifically that they want to keep server strain to a minimum with LSes.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

FC = Guild
LS = Chat Channel
Friends List = For Friends


Honestly I do not see why we have both linkshells and Freecompanys to begin with

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The fact that Hunt LSs and Raid LSs are a very, very common thing should give you some indication as to why that is. People get tied down to their FCs for various reasons, but having LSs allows people from multiple FCs to coordinate easily.

I'm all for this. I honestly wish we could view a player's last login time in a Linkshell... For someone with OCD, I would hate to imagine needing to break a Linkpearl and re-form a Linkshell every 6 months (give or take) simply to maintain active players. Despite a Linkshell being a chat channel, some people NEED to know who is actually using the Linkshell and who isn't.

I agree that having a last login time would be beneficial for Linkshells. They're for chatting sure, but you've still got to maintain it.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

I'm all for it, as long as we can turn off getting the MotD on login, or make it so the message only forces itself into the chat log if it's new. Getting hit with potentially 9 MotDs plus server announcements on every log in will get old real quick otherwise.

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I was thinking of just having a short message box that would be above members list for each linkshell, that way it's there every time someone checks on status of that linkshell, instead of only flashing once at login.

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Originally Posted by Felessan

Devs already commented on this that implementation of LS and FC are different and LS is basically a chat channel that does not store any information like log history etc, so it's not possible to add last login time for LS (without reworking whole LS system).

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Except that info is already stored on servers and displayed on FC members window. It's already available, no need for linkshell to store anything, just extract it.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

Except that info is already stored on servers and displayed on FC members window. It's already available, no need for linkshell to store anything, just extract it.

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And what to do with people who are not in FC? As far as I understand this info stored as FC channel info - no FC = no info.

Agreed. I've posted lengthy posts about this in the past, and would still like these options. I never received a response, but I hope you do. I understand it may not be easy to implement, but if demand is high enough, maybe they would look into it more.

For those saying an LS is just a chat-channel, you are not playing the game to it's full extent. LS' are used for FC alliances, Hunts (not so much anymore), friends outside of FC, World Bosses, Raid groups, FC leaders, and RP. There's probably more, but I'm drawing a blank. Point is, LS' have many purposes beyond a social chat. If you make a friend or 2 during a pug, and they are close with their FC but would still like to keep in touch for other pugs, LS' are perfect (especially since you can't receive /tells in Duty, so FL is kind of moot). FC's are limiting in that you can only have 1. You can have many LS', and that's their biggest benefit for the social part of this game, which everyone is always playing. That's how mine has always worked, and we have more members in the LS than the FC.

but then LS would be FC o: ( no other difference )

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

but then LS would be FC o: ( no other difference )

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Size, FC buffs, houses with gardens and chocobo stables and convenience NPCs, FC crest, FC crest on gear, visible FC tags, weekly/monthly rankings, FC chest. Loads of differences.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Size, FC buffs, houses with gardens and chocobo stables and convenience NPCs, FC crest, FC crest on gear, visible FC tags, weekly/monthly rankings, FC chest. Loads of differences.

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You are right :3

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Originally Posted by Cigaran

It would be a different story if the request was for LS Housing or LS Actions. It's not. It's a request for the most basic functionality of a social system; letting your know when your friends are online. Hell, we don't even have that. I can't think of an MMO that I've played in the past decade that DID NOT give you the option to be notified if/when your friends are online.

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Yes and what I was reffering to was a quote about basic chat functions, not Housing, perks, or other FC benefits.

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Originally Posted by Clavaat

Agreed. I've posted lengthy posts about this in the past, and would still like these options. I never received a response, but I hope you do. I understand it may not be easy to implement, but if demand is high enough, maybe they would look into it more.

For those saying an LS is just a chat-channel, you are not playing the game to it's full extent. LS' are used for FC alliances, Hunts (not so much anymore), friends outside of FC, World Bosses, Raid groups, FC leaders, and RP. There's probably more, but I'm drawing a blank. Point is, LS' have many purposes beyond a social chat. If you make a friend or 2 during a pug, and they are close with their FC but would still like to keep in touch for other pugs, LS' are perfect (especially since you can't receive /tells in Duty, so FL is kind of moot). FC's are limiting in that you can only have 1. You can have many LS', and that's their biggest benefit for the social part of this game, which everyone is always playing. That's how mine has always worked, and we have more members in the LS than the FC.

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I don't mean to sound condescending but what you just described was a chat channel. A place to "talk", and it doesn't necessarily mean just on a social level. But I do agree, I use LSs for communicating for various activities as well, and I still think a simle MotD function would be great, but I'm not banking on it either.