Questions on 2.4 path and gear from returning 2.1 player

Hi everyone,

I have recently come back and am close to having each craft class 50. I have about 1m gil to work with and no gatherers (yet) so I rely on MB.

First question:
After doing a lot of reading on the new stuff to do, it looks like this the basic path. Am I correct?

1* jewelry and belt
1* clothes
1* secondary

2* artisan specs
2* primary

supra

3* secondary

4* clothes

Second question(s):
Because I want to do this for all classes, eventually, and I have a budget I would prefer to not make and meld the class specific i55 clothes and instead work with 1 set of melded patrician. I also would prefer to sell the first few IV materia I get, so I would be attempting this with III and below.

Is this even possible? Or is it mandatory to go the i55 clothes route? If I go the class clothes route could I get away with III materia?

I am solo leveling an fc and should at some point have the fc level 5 actions. Level 8 are probably not going to happen, ever.

Edit: I should note that I only care about being able to make the stuff, not being able to macro them or even make money with crafting (yet). I get the feeling the macros people post have much higher requirements than the manual rotations I would use to build my stuff. I hope so anyway, some of those requirements are very high.

Keep in mind you will need to level desynthesis. GSM desynthesis is probably the first thing you need to do so you can save money on your accessories by makingg your own FC1s, and prepare for glasses desynth

Don't bother with patricians. The only big saving (the chest) is a mandatory max meld for 4*. You can get Ixali gloves, which leaves boots/legs which require very little melds.

Your supra can be made from leftover turn in mats.

OK thank you, I didn't realize I needed to desynth to make the 1* jewelry.

Looks like no shortcuts through the process.

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Originally Posted by govtcheeze

OK thank you, I didn't realize I needed to desynth to make the 1* jewelry.

Looks like no shortcuts through the process.

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you can buy the FC1s off the MB. That's what I did (actually bought all my i55 gear off the MB)

Been wondering about this myself.
I havent been keeping up with the new crafting gear over the last few updates, got my artisan spectacles, and artisan cul and armorer mainhands, the rest is standard "old" gear.
So I am quite far behind in terms of getting and perfectly melding the new accessories, getting the NEWER mainhands, new crafting armors, etc, etc...
Given how far "behind" I am at this time, I must ask, aside from crafting being a way to get cash to throw more cash into crafting... is there anything particularly useful to be gained through crafting now?

Ive got about 1 mil, mostly do Coils and dungeons, have 109-110 on 3 difference classes, and my raid group really isnt hardcore enough to dish out for HQ 4 star armor with 5x grade 4 melds... too poor.
So it seems like the only things worth making, aside from armors, in a raid setting is the new foods. Is it worth going from where I am, to getting the new HQ armors, melded, and ready to do 4 stars for just food?
Or should I just wait for the expansion to "reset" gear progression?

As someone who is just now getting crafts up to 3 star level. My thinking is that the new lvl 60 gear will probably be a "5*" synth and you will need the stats to do 4* + 10 levels so being able to do 4* before the patch would put you ahead and able to recoup some money down the line.

That said I make most of my money making and selling 2 star foods/potions so if you just want gil then you can make plenty at your current levels.

I guess the big question is, when the level cap is raised, will we have new class quests - leading to new mainhands (perhaps better than I75 Supra's)?
Also will there be lvl 60 recipes for Weaver and Leatherworker to let them make new "class sets" - a new set of lvl 60 1 star recipes?

From a developer's perspective, someone who picks up the game after the expansion, will likely not "want" to go through all of the grinding required to obtain the current crafting gear.
Unless they either nerf the requirements (amount of items to turn in and mats requires), or the lvl 60 crafting gear enables people to simply skip the 50x token grinds, for instance.

The gear reset is a big question for me too. I didn't play the previous FF MMO so I am not sure how they handle new levels, but most other games I play it's a total reset each new tier. I am deciding on pushing forward with crafting or just leveling all doh to 50 and then leveling all the dow as high as I can before the new tier. I am currently leaning toward the later.

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Originally Posted by govtcheeze

The gear reset is a big question for me too. I didn't play the previous FF MMO so I am not sure how they handle new levels, but most other games I play it's a total reset each new tier. I am deciding on pushing forward with crafting or just leveling all doh to 50 and then leveling all the dow as high as I can before the new tier. I am currently leaning toward the later.

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Going off of FFXI the cap started at 50 (75 by the time it got released in the US) and you had to do a quest every 5 levels to unlock the next levels but you only had to do this once per char.

Like I said I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you need at least some melds to do the quest (or lots of gil to just buy the items) to advance past 50 in the class. I don't think it will require you to have absolutely everything but I wouldn't be surprised if you need the i55 gear melded.

You don't need to be maxed to make the turn ins for the artisan specs and tools.

My Alchemist has all i55 accessories, Ixal hands, Artisan specs and tool, AF boots, Patrician's body and legs, Militia offhand. Only 2 melds on the offhand all else that can be melded is maxed. Spirits of Salt is well within reach.

And yes, if a piece takes pentamelding to max you probably need an IV. But not necessary. Figure it out. You can blow up a LOT of IIs and Is before you hit the cost of a IV.

Is the Artisan's primary tool required (stat-wise) to be able to acquire the Artisan's Secondary Tool and/or Supra?

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Originally Posted by Jx00x

Is the Artisan's primary tool required (stat-wise) to be able to acquire the Artisan's Secondary Tool and/or Supra?

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The Secondary tools are bought off the MB or crafted (3 star BSM for most of them). As for the Supra since it is just looking for NQ items you can make them without the i70 main hand but you need max melds and I think you need to use food to hit the stats for 3 star crafting without the i70 tool.

I found its easier to just get the i70 tool.

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Originally Posted by Jx00x

Is the Artisan's primary tool required (stat-wise) to be able to acquire the Artisan's Secondary Tool and/or Supra?

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I grinded out my artisan culinary primary only then used that to craft relish for artisan glasses turn ins for desynth. I grinded out the 7 supras for the other classes this way skipping the artisan. I had good melds, used FC +10 control buff and food + 40 craft buff to hit the minimum reqs.

With each supra, you can add that classes turn in for more glasses so plan your path ahead of time.

My goal was to be able to craft 3 star with no buffs so i could use cp food so i melded according to those numbers plus max cp. Worked great until 2.4...

Im working on my off hand tools now and may need to remeld my body pieces to meet 4 star reqs without buffs or food, not sure yet as im still playing with the numbers. I did hq my smithing secondary tool on the first try though!