I've never been so miserable leveling up.

27 levels and counting. Still haven't set foot in a dungeon. And this is with the finder running for as long as I'm playing.
FATES and Leves only last for so long until you get absolutely sick of them, or they run out.

*sigh*

Welcome to 2.0 where dungeons were worthless and everybody grinded fates.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Welcome to 2.4 where 90% of the player base are ninjas

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fixed :P

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Originally Posted by yuixjfa

27 levels and counting. Still haven't set foot in a dungeon. And this is with the finder running for as long as I'm playing.
FATES and Leves only last for so long until you get absolutely sick of them, or they run out.

*sigh*

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The main problem is that you're trying to level Ninja less than a week after the patch hit. At least you have the benefit of having other jobs you can play as. From an "efficiency" standpoint - it makes no sense to level any DD for the next couple weeks. At least you have the luxury to play as another job (whereas a new player may not).

It helps to try and level with friends if you're doing Rogue / Ninja. Right now, honestly, the lower level brackets will take a while because so many people are trying to level that class.
Try doing Guild Hests, Hunt logs and challenge logs as well.

I can't help but feel sorry for people just starting out the game as a melee dps.

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Originally Posted by yuixjfa

27 levels and counting. Still haven't set foot in a dungeon. And this is with the finder running for as long as I'm playing.
FATES and Leves only last for so long until you get absolutely sick of them, or they run out.

*sigh*

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Grab a heal/tank buddy and enjoy instant queues. :P
Or level a tank/heal yourself.

They just rolled out a new DPs class, it's to be expected that queues for DPS will suck for a while.

Scrap that. Solo DPS queues always suck.

low level que is pretty sad that i can get a 5-10 min que at higher level as a BRD =3=

SE should have added DRK first or any other tank. DPS has to come together with a tank and healer. Imagine having SAM (tank), NIN (dps) and XX (healer) at once. Would be amazing.

I'm personally having alot of fun leveling in the NIN train. ^_^ reminds me of beta.

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Originally Posted by Uielyave

It helps to try and level with friends if you're doing Rogue / Ninja. Right now, honestly, the lower level brackets will take a while because so many people are trying to level that class.
Try doing Guild Hests, Hunt logs and challenge logs as well.

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I solo went as a healer for Hatali and it took 30 mins until I just dropped que because
we're waiting on a tank for days.

A GOOD TIME TO BE A TANK YA'LL.

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Originally Posted by abzoluut

SE should have added DRK first or any other tank. DPS has to come together with a tank and healer. Imagine having SAM (tank), NIN (dps) and XX (healer) at once. Would be amazing.

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Adding a tank would not solve the issues. People who want to tank already has PLD/WAR leveled and would level DRK, meanwhile the ones who didn't level WAR/PLD wouldn't touch DRK or Healers as that's not what they wat to do. So it would be nice..but not probable.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

A GOOD TIME TO BE A TANK YA'LL.

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Yesterday Almost 300minutes queue for me on my tank.

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Originally Posted by MrSigy

Yesterday Almost 300minutes queue for me on my tank.

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If you're talking about high level it makes sense since everyone is leveling ninja.

queue up for low level roulette. I'm sure you'll get insta pop.

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Originally Posted by Xoriam

If you're talking about high level it makes sense since everyone is leveling ninja.

queue up for low level roulette. I'm sure you'll get insta pop.

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Haha nah, was ST XD

I'm kind of enjoying lvling this way, it's just like it was in 2.0 when I levelled my other jobs. I find dungeons annoying because half the time when doing low level dungeons you get people who don't have a clue on how to play and it takes 10x longer to do a basic dungeon for the same exp as a few fates. I just wish I could get into low level roulette :)

I was able to do just 2 Roulettes for the big Bonus XP as DPS class since new patch! D: <
Wait time 2x over 120mins!!
30-50mins wait time for the roulette with the short Guildquest.

I really dont understand... after not even 24hours the on 1st day with new patch..
I saw a few lv50 Ninjas in my server and inside Sycrust Tower wtf.

Im not even lv35 because I ENJOY gaming, speed leveling up so fast CANT make any fun! <.<

uh... I feel bad for the new players stuck for eternity in Sastasha.
They must think waiting 2hours is the normal wait time for all DPS classes... -.-

New players:
Tired of wasting paid game time by waiting -> They lose interesst playing -> They leave game, good Job SE. <,<
(Already saw some1 on the shout saying like "The wait time for dungeons is ridicules in this P2P game wtf")

1 new DPS class is a really bad move...

I leveled ninja off all fates had steady exp and still was able to move around to different areas, remind me how when 2.0 started and people acting talked unlike dungeons where no on says a thing entire run.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

I solo went as a healer for Hatali and it took 30 mins until I just dropped que because
we're waiting on a tank for days.

A GOOD TIME TO BE A TANK YA'LL.

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CRIMENY. That's aweful.
WElp, i got a lvl 19 Warrior, i suppose now would be a good time to level it... Still its really sad that the ques are messed up because of a new DPS class. They probably should've waited to release DRK and Rogue together. Ah well... :(

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Adding a tank would not solve the issues. People who want to tank already has PLD/WAR leveled and would level DRK, meanwhile the ones who didn't level WAR/PLD wouldn't touch DRK or Healers as that's not what they wat to do. So it would be nice..but not probable.

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What you're forgetting as part of the equation are the Completionists. The people who level EVERY job regardless of whether its tank, healer, DPS, crafting, gathering, or longshoreman.
By getting the ninja out of the way now, it will encourage the completionists and general curious people to try the new tank and healer come 3.0, leading to this problem simply not existing for 3.0 since the people who wanted to level Ninja will have already done so, evening out the queues.

I've managed to get into about 5-10 dungeons total while leveling Rogue and I'm currently 30. You can get in a dungeon, but just be ready to wati at the very least 50 mins with the longest que (For me anyway) being well over 75 minutes

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Originally Posted by Xoriam

I'm personally having alot of fun leveling in the NIN train. ^_^ reminds me of beta.

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Me too actually. In some small way I had missed these massive zerg-fests.

I had to close to two hours to get into one yesterday...then all the tank wanted to do was talk. Took an hour to get through a lvl 20 dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Adding a tank would not solve the issues. People who want to tank already has PLD/WAR leveled and would level DRK, meanwhile the ones who didn't level WAR/PLD wouldn't touch DRK or Healers as that's not what they wat to do. So it would be nice..but not probable.

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That's not true. I personally am looking forward to tanking as DRK. Neither the warrior nor the paladin really appeal to me.

This patch made me regret leveling both Paladin and Warrior two months ago.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

I solo went as a healer for Hatali and it took 30 mins until I just dropped que because
we're waiting on a tank for days.

A GOOD TIME TO BE A TANK YA'LL.

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I've been leveling up my tank on an alt and waited over half an hour for a healer.
There's not enough of either role queueing atm. :P
They need to add roles in equal amounts or make rewards for low level in need better.

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Originally Posted by abzoluut

SE should have added DRK first or any other tank. DPS has to come together with a tank and healer. Imagine having SAM (tank), NIN (dps) and XX (healer) at once. Would be amazing.

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then instead 90% of the playerbase playing Ninja it would be 75%. Still not better.

I can't wait what happen if DRK come out wih 3.0 (or some patches later). Maybe complain threads that the queue time for tanks increased to 10 minutes ^^

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Originally Posted by Mayh

Me too actually. In some small way I had missed these massive zerg-fests.

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The thing I hate about it is being the ONLY one in a massive group of people who are actually geared lol considering nin is squishy, it's not fun to jump on a boss late and end up tanking the rest of it because people can't take 5 minutes to get gear their lvl, so they go in with gear 20-30 lvls under them :/

Leveling Rogue isn't so bad. Spam the heck out of Levequests, in the appropriate areas for your level, until you can run Sastasha then, rather than queue and wait forever, make a Party Finder group, /shout, ask people on your friends list, ask your linkshells, or ask your free company mates if they'd like to run with you. If you are only queueing up DF and waiting and waiting and waiting then you're really not making the most effort that you can/could to try and get your Rogue lvl'd as quickly and painlessly as possible. While waiting on queues and/or building a party to run dungeons kill mobs for your hunting log, do FATES, kill trash mobs, if you have a Whm or Sch friend ask if they might be willing to "power level" you while you kill mobs for your hunting log or kill trash mobs that are higher level than what you would actualy be able to solo on your own. For faster leveling you might bring your healer friend along and just kill trash mobs around your level, preferrably 4-8 levels higher than you are and just kill as many as possible as fast as possible.

Basically, if you think outside the box, and make your best effort to level as quickly as possible, leveling any class/job does not have to be a grindfest of sheer boredom that takes forever as long as you apply the right amount of effort to level. If you have the option, get on teamspeak/ventrilo/raidcall or whatever program that your free company or linkshell uses and talk to your linkshell or free company members as you level to make leveling up even less of a chore and even more enjoyable. If you don't have access to teamspeak/ventrilo/or raidcall, set up a raidcall channel and invite whomever you'd like to join you on raidcall so you'll have friends to talk to while you level. Raidcall is 100% free and you can have as many people as you'd like on raidcall with you.

Finally, taking the time to come to the forums and Q.Q about how leveling is taking too long, is boring, queue times are too long, SE should have added both a healer and tank class to make queue times faster, etc. takes away from the time that you could have spent leveling your Rogue/Ninja. In the time it's taken me to post this I could have already gained enough xp to be halfway to getting another level on my Rogue. Anyway, I'm not trying to be negative in anyway whatsoever, I'm simply trying to provide helpful tips to those that may need a little guidance on how to improve the speed at which they level. Keep in mind that the options I mentioned are just scratching the surface of all the available options for leveling. ( ~.ø)b

TL;DR Screw Duty Finder. Make your own parties, or seek other ways to level, and try to make it as fun as possible so that you don't feel like you're stuck in a grindfest of overwhelming boredom!

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

The thing I hate about it is being the ONLY one in a massive group of people who are actually geared lol considering nin is squishy, it's not fun to jump on a boss late and end up tanking the rest of it because people can't take 5 minutes to get gear their lvl, so they go in with gear 20-30 lvls under them :/

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Well, stop being so awesome! Lol, seriously though.. people are just leveling up soo quickly with these fate trains they just don't want to stop for anything. Most fate groups I've joined have been pure rogue so the Coeurl King fate in South Shroud was a huge pain with all those squishy rogues trying to tank it. I'm hoping that by the time I get to grinding Coerthas & Svara there will be some tanks mixed in the bunch.

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Originally Posted by yuixjfa

27 levels and counting. Still haven't set foot in a dungeon. And this is with the finder running for as long as I'm playing.
FATES and Leves only last for so long until you get absolutely sick of them, or they run out.

*sigh*

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I know the pain since I am currently in this pit of nothing new only with the hopes of it becoming better

It wouldn't have made much of a difference had they added a tank or healing class either in conjunction with the Rogue/Ninja or not have released Rogue/Ninja in 2.4. The people who are willing to step into dungeons to level up a healer or tank class are few and far between.

Though I have healed Sastasha a handful of times on Conjurer.

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Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn

I can't help but feel sorry for people just starting out the game as a melee dps.

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I don't. Every city has access to either healer or tank, so if they wanted to beat the queues that badly, they'll switch at level 10.

I did it. Just unlocked ninja an hour ago. I could have done it a day sooner, but had IRL stuff to take care of.

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Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta

low level que is pretty sad that i can get a 5-10 min que at higher level as a BRD =3=

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Wait until they are all into high level/expert. ;)

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Originally Posted by kyuven

What you're forgetting as part of the equation are the Completionists. The people who level EVERY job regardless of whether its tank, healer, DPS, crafting, gathering, or longshoreman.

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Guilty as charged XD

Albeit I do enjoy all roles, albeit BLM I find the least enjoyable as pretty mindless (imo). But happily DPS, tank or heal.

Guess I'm glad I've delayed leveling tanks for so long.....all I see is rogues as DPS now in low level dungeons. Like, literally. ^^

That said I've also already seen lv50 ninjas like the day before yesterday. In ST of all places, and not even only one. @.@ Some people are just crazy, I tell ya.

:P I feel that the queue would actually still be better. No, not everyone will want to tank BUT those that like to level every job would, but main a tank would have picked to level the tank first.

I main DPS, but you can sure bet I'd have leveled my tank first cause I know the queues are bad.

Had we gotten all three jobs at once I feel that we'd have at least had average queues 15-30min wait for melee instead of 30+

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Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford

The main problem is that you're trying to level Ninja less than a week after the patch hit. At least you have the benefit of having other jobs you can play as. From an "efficiency" standpoint - it makes no sense to level any DD for the next couple weeks. At least you have the luxury to play as another job (whereas a new player may not).

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Yea that's good advice, now if only my main wasn't a Monk and my second a Bard....

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Originally Posted by Anarnee

:P I feel that the queue would actually still be better. No, not everyone will want to tank BUT those that like to level every job would, but main a tank would have picked to level the tank first.

I main DPS, but you can sure bet I'd have leveled my tank first cause I know the queues are bad.

Had we gotten all three jobs at once I feel that we'd have at least had average queues 15-30min wait for melee instead of 30+

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I've waited over 260 mins for a duty. I've taken naps done fates and assignments. not much to do but wait I guess.