Frontline dead?

I've been trying to participate in frontline in the past days and I just can't :( Duty finder times are broken.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...0914a9d3de.jpg

Thats not my record, and always end to log off without participating in any frontline :(

I'm afraid it's because there's too much new content and rewards for only doing the new stuff, players just simply aren't willing to go back to the old stuff yet. Also, with the rogue/ninja craze still in effect, your cries about DF being broken will only join the chorus of DPS who are experiencing similar waits for story dungeons.

I don't think Frontline is an old content, its still unique and also got many news in last patch. But yeah I guess everyone is leveling ninjar.

Well PVP in this game wasn't exactly enjoyable to begin with...

It is old content, in that it's been around for a while. But other then that, you are dead on the mark about it still being unique and relevant to the game. I just hope SE realises just how much adjustment comes with new classes now.

Frontlines isn't dead, the game is just more alive atm.

Depends on your cluster, very much alive here.

Yep same situation here, had only 3 games since 2.4 with constant queueing. :(

Me too. 3 Games since 2.4 launches. Did queue every day for some hours.

Remove SPRINT from PVP

Adding new ranks to PVP was nice, but the new rewards are just bad reskins of the old ones. It's not very enticing when there's so much new content to do.

Need BRUTAL, SAVAGE open world PVP

Where the weak are meat; the strong do eat

<-- did 1 PVP match Frontlines. I left after not even minutes! I feelt stupid and was bored of it so fast. o.O
Never did PVP again.

Majority of the community are either leveling: Ninja, doing new quests or the new dungeons/raids.

A lot of PvE junk just added, so yeah, slow queue times. Hopefully things pick up after the lulznin craze is over

I was doing 48 mans as an Immortal Flame on Wednesday on Siren (Aether) with a pop roughly every 30 minutes. GC imbalances seem to be roughly the same as usual.

The big thing is that a large portion of the population is focused on leveling ROG/NIN. Once they hit 50 they are likely to start queing Frontlines again in order to get the Bat sets.

I'm big on PvP(rank 40 with a war horse) but I haven't touched it since 2.4 hit. I'm focusing on burning through the PvE stuff first. Final coil and crafting is taking up most of my time. I suspect a lot of people are doing the same.

If they had added a new frontline map for 2.4 it would have kept PvP alive during this time, sadly PvP seems to be at the very bottom of their content list.


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Originally Posted by Parodine

Adding new ranks to PVP was nice, but the new rewards are just bad reskins of the old ones. It's not very enticing when there's so much new content to do.

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This too. It feels like they put the least amount of effort they could into PvP. Just enough to say they did add something.

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Originally Posted by Elim

This too. It feels like they put the least amount of effort they could into PvP. Just enough to say they did add something.

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To be fair, it's only really played by a minority of players in the first place. Doesn't seem very smart to devote a lot of development time to something only a few players will actually bother doing. Which also explains why the Zodiac upgrades clearly didn't have much development time...

Given that Carteneau was dead only a month after being released with excessive wait times, it's fairly clear that there isn't much love for PvP right now. Wolves Den has been close to empty since it was first released, and has only gotten worse with Frontlines. I don't see them investing much in PvP as there just isn't enough interest to make it worthwhile.

True it probably doesn't have that much interest. Wolves Den pretty much killed PvP from the start.

However, at least on my datacenter, wait times weren't that long before 2.4. I could get out of a match then have an insta pop. Part of the issue with wait times is they don't let groups Q for in progress, when there was often big gaps in teams due to withdraws at the last second. There's a few more things they could tweak to make pops faster, but I don't really want to get too much into that subject. Another issue is the GCD turns off a lot of PvPers. Then they keep nerfing where nerfing isn't needed. Maybe slight tweaking but NOT harsh nerfs. Like whm for example, when it was the underdog in PvP in the first place. I think they only look at healing numbers, and that is NOT completely representative of performance. It's easy to be a bad and pad numbers in FL.

Anyway sorry about rambling... I just have a funny feeling that they don't have a dedicated PvP team. I think it's possible to get more people into PvP, they just need to put a little bit more effort into it. Which, like you said, they probably wont do since it doesn't have enough attention in the first place. A loop. lol

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Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn

Well PVP in this game wasn't exactly enjoyable to begin with...

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have you ever played frontlines? With Arena PVP you are right.. but frontlines is assum.. just saying.

But well.. i think for people its more enjoyable to do hundreds of COIL runs over and over... aye..


-most boring community-


i still need 4 ranks to complete my pvp equipment for vanity purposes for my blm ;)
http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte...013/04/pvp.png


and ninja... lol:
http://i.imgur.com/6nnxvIB.jpg

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and ninja... lol:
http://i.imgur.com/6nnxvIB.jpg

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You can be the hero Eorzea deserves... :P

Yeah frontlines are pretty dead on Odin too. D: Sucks cuz I wanted to give them a try. Maybe later when the new content isn't as new anymore... nyaha.

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You can be the hero Eorzea deserves... :P

Yeah frontlines are pretty dead on Odin too. D: Sucks cuz I wanted to give them a try. Maybe later when the new content isn't as new anymore... nyaha.

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better try in the evening.. so around 8 - 11 pm its most likely for frontlines to open better (well after the patch at the moment not)...

And yoshi p. said also that they are planning to add more PVP Frontline maps also. which i think is quiet interesting. hopefully they do it like roulette.. and a map opens up randomly.. so they do not split the player base upon different maps... to make the queues even longer..

and why do you say on odin? pvp is like any other content linked over all servers (except japanese) right?

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better try in the evening.. so around 8 - 11 pm its most likely for frontlines to open better (well after the patch at the moment not)...

And yoshi p. said also that they are planning to add more PVP Frontline maps also. which i think is quiet interesting. hopefully they do it like roulette.. and a map opens up randomly.. so they do not split the player base upon different maps... to make the queues even longer..

and why do you say on odin? pvp is like any other content linked over all servers (except japanese) right?

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I thought it was linked to the data centers or whatever they are called. Like dungeons are only certain servers linked via DF, I think Odin is within the one called Chaos? /head scratch. I dunno. :3 Anyway the reason I mentioned server was since someone on another server said their queues weren't long.

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Like dungeons are only certain servers linked via DF,

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thats not right i think... you could play also with japanese people from japanese data centers as well directly on release.. (i think)

maybe i am wrong but thats what i thought ^^

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

thats not right i think... you could play also with japanese people from japanese data centers as well directly on release.. (i think)

maybe i am wrong but thats what i thought ^^

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You could be right, I always thought it was confined to the data centers for some reason. :3

I played pvp everyday before the patch maybe 4-5 games a day. But since the patch it hasnt popped once. And pvp is basically the only thing I enjoy doing. Sure dungeons are fun but they dont give me any good loot so i dont see the point after ive done a certain dungeon 5-10 times.

So im really sad that this patch added ninja cause now everyone is pnaying that class and all the other contents dead on my server

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

thats not right i think... you could play also with japanese people from japanese data centers as well directly on release.. (i think)

maybe i am wrong but thats what i thought ^^

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If this was true pvp would pop faar more often. I only get players from Chaos cluster just like DF. Odin is in Chaos (i think) so he, like me is on a very unpopulated datacenter so thats why its never popping for us

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If this was true pvp would pop faar more often. I only get players from Chaos cluster just like DF. Odin is in Chaos (i think) so he, like me is on a very unpopulated datacenter so thats why its never popping for us

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with pvp it may be an other case. i think we arent connected to japanese data centres.

and i think on every server you have long pvp queues.. its not just yours.


carteneau popped for me in the evening about 5-10 times.. now it doesnt also.


but i have to say that i am also concentrating on leveling ninja now.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

with pvp it may be an other case. i think we arent connected to japanese data centres.

and i think on every server you have long pvp queues.. its not just yours.


carteneau popped for me in the evening about 5-10 times.. now it doesnt also.


but i have to say that i am also concentrating on leveling ninja now.

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Ragnarok is like Odin in the Chaos group

PvP going strong on Primal Server. Instant to 40 min queues in the evenings.

Only did Pvp a few times. Never did frontlines tried queing a few times no luck.
I never saw PvP as something most FFers wanted.

Wrong game for PVP OP. Try REAL PVP GAME

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Originally Posted by Empressia

Wrong game for PVP OP. Try REAL PVP GAME

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Why? A lot of us like the pvp in this game.

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

Why? A lot of us like the pvp in this game.

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Yes I do daily PVP roulette every day and I enjoy… despite we don’t win so much.

I see you felt the need to dig up a thread from 2014 to brag about playing frontline.
Do you feel better now?

Wow, it wasn't the usual suspect.

Holy crap, someone had to really reach to find this topic.