Die die die mechanics

Just wondering about your opinion on this:

The devs should implement mechanics that REQUIRES a player to die and be raised in future fights.

For example, a confuse Debuff that cannot be cleansed by anything other than death; a doom status that cannot be removed on the main tank; a character becomes a walking bomb that will wipe the party unless killed.

I'm thinking that for endgame fights like Final Coil and Savage Coil, mechanics like this could fit their way in. Give it some thought, and you will realize raise/resurrection is never a necessary skill. Currently, to the best of my knowledge, all fights can be cleared without someone ever having to die. The raise/resurrection skill is far from useless, but never essential. What if that all changed, and it became just as essential as a cure spell?

BALLAD PLZ

Repair bills! I'd rather not. As it is, most fights tend to be game over once one or two people die, along with the fact that several fights have it once you die, you arent getting back up (titan, levi). With weakness, you're likely to die more, you wouldn't survive to aoe you would if you didn't have it (titan stomps for example) so you might as well be out for good. Fights that require someone to die would just be a pain in the backside, especially since the focus of everything at the moment is to NOT die.

Good job, adventurer! The way you died there was really heroic and inspiring.

I would only be on board with something like this if they got rid of weakness. I'm pretty sure I said the same thing about FFXI at some point, too.

Yeah I thought with weakness being a thing it wouldn't work but then again, I get the feeling it could work somehow, like that person not being targeted by certain attacks to avoid taking massive damage afterwards. And MP could be an issue, but that phase of the fight could be light on healing of course. I think the best argument is repair costs lol

The point of the game is to stay up as you beat up a raid or dungeon. The whole die mechanic goes against that purpose.

Yeah but you still gotta get raised, not just stay down :P but yeah you guys make good arguments. I'm not necessarily for or against it, just wanna see what the community thinks.

Sounds good. They'd finally be adding a mechanic to play to DRG's strengths

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I would only be on board with something like this if they got rid of weakness. I'm pretty sure I said the same thing about FFXI at some point, too.

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They should do it like it was during 1.x
No weakness if resurrected by someone
3 Minute weakness if you use Return
Double weakness if you died a second time while the first weakness was still there

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Originally Posted by Riepah

Good job, adventurer! The way you died there was really heroic and inspiring.

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Like they say.

What is greater then a Hero?

Ans: A dead Hero.

Afaik, if someone die in extremes, he is doomed to die at any and every mechanics involving party-wide damage. I guess that "sickness" can be safely renamed to the Qarn-ish "doom".

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Afaik, if someone die in extremes, he is doomed to die at any and every mechanics involving party-wide damage. I guess that "sickness" can be safely renamed to the Qarn-ish "doom".

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That would make SMN the default member of any static that attempt that content then. The only dps that can Resurrect others.

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Originally Posted by Seibah

Sounds good. They'd finally be adding a mechanic to play to DRG's strengths

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Of course they need something that makes them desirable, with mnks having superior damage output and ninjas being the new hotness DRGs are old and busted.

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Originally Posted by Felis

They should do it like it was during 1.x
No weakness if resurrected by someone

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Out of combat: I agree, weakness is BS.
In combat: no. We already have near unlimited in combat rezzes, there has to be some kind of punishment for gimping and dying.

As far as the thread topic goes: WoW did have some fights with mechanics like these. Azgalor (killed people as a sort of soft enrage), Yogg-Saron (if you get MC'd you need to be killed) spontaneously come to mind.

Personally I dislike these mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Dijana

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off topic, but you have the coolest sig ever.

Worst. Idea. Ever.

I wouldn't mind it, nothing wrong with variety and different mechanics.

I think the closest thing we could get is a Necromancer boss who uses a spell that causes the party to die, it could be Zombie which makes all healing spells do damage. And then once all party members are dead he'll use his special ability that revives all things dead back from the grave which would summon his minions and revive everyone. Hopefully they could find a way to make it more interesting than what I'm describing though.

Lich Primal battle, Please look forward to it.

I think all Raid encounters in anygame the goal is to have no one to die and kill the bosses Forcing someone to die is sort of dumb unless it is a mechanic of a boss like kill the tank because boss hits X % and changes phases and kills tank in anger etc.
This won't cause weakness due to it being a mechanic supposed to happen and doesn't cost any repair again Due to mechanic. but again people aren't actually supposed to die in boss fights.

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Originally Posted by Seibah

Sounds good. They'd finally be adding a mechanic to play to DRG's strengths

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ooooh a dungeon where the only way to beat it at the end is to Sacrifice a Lalafell, me likey. if you dont have a lalafell in your party? well tough