So how come there's no request desynth option like there is request meld?

For things like the new Allagan desynths which come from Coil 1 equipment (Which I've got plenty of sitting in my retainer storage) you're basically at the mercy of the crafters themselves carrying enough/being able to clear this content to keep the supply going . I was able to procure all the necessary items for the i110 crafted DoW/DoM sets except for these within the day of the patch hitting.

I'm sure the common response to this is going to be "Level up a crafter and do it yourself" but couldn't you say the same thing about materia? All it does is open up an avenue for people like me who don't have access to the direct resource (ie, I cannot go into T5, scoop up the drops and convert them into what I want by myself) but I do have an excess of the indirect resource (The gear that this stuff comes from). Instead of having to level up crafting for this one particular item that I'm trying to acquire I could just pay someone (In whatever trade-able method you choose) to do it for me. The only difference is you're no longer dependent on someone else going out there and getting the materials for you, you're the one supplying the materials instead.

This also removes any possibility of just giving someone a weapon, they could still have the raid gear be "un-tradable" (ie you can't just hand someone a raid weapon) but you can give them a tool to break-down instead.

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A request desynth option should absolutely be added. Right now we have to just trust people that they give me all the goods that came from a desynth.

This would be a lot better.

Still waiting for a "request repair" option...

+1 to this.

I have tons of gears that I am not able to desynth yet because I can't level any other classes at the risk of deleveling my original classes. For some reason I thought we were going to get an expansion for 400 desynth points (4 classes at 100) this patch instead of only having 300 points (3 classes at 100). I was already considering giving an acquaintance of mine a ton of trade-able items and just hoping he would give me the product items of the desynthesis and not gyp me. Furthermore I was wondering how much longer my untradeable allaga/mythology stuff would sit in my armory chest before I could level another desynth class since I really didn't want to turn these in for company seals when I would much rather get desynth items. If this could be done we could all just pay people some nominal fee to desynth our stuff that would be really awesome!

Also yeah what happened to being able to repair other people's gear lol :P

+1 to this.

Would also make desynth mats much more widely available as leveling the skills would be much faster when you can desynth other people's stuff (and get paid to do it).

as an avid desynther, I would like this

I don't like being the minority, but I wouldn't want this. It would devalue desynthesis so much.

Just as you can't use a crafting materials without the crafting class, you cannot desynthesize a specific item without the corresponding desynthesis class.

Besides, you can already do this by giving the item to someone and them giving you the things they got from desynthesizing it.


Your problem is not the absence of "request desynthesis". It is the problem of having too much unnecessary unique/untradable locks on items. If the items were tradable it would be the exact opposite of giving items so someone to craft for you, which obviously, we can do with a little bit of trust and faith.

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Your problem is not the absence of "request desynthesis". It is the problem of having too much unnecessary unique/untradable locks on items. If the items were tradable it would be the exact opposite of giving items so someone to craft for you, which obviously, we can do with a little bit of trust and faith.

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You can't seriously expect raid tier weapons and equipment to be tradable though, even if it's old content. This doesn't do anything to de-value synthesis aside from allow non-crafting players to supply more desynth opportunities/materials to people who do craft. If the only thing keeping desynth prices up is the inability of either skill or desire of someone to go and clear Coil 1 and breakdown the mats then maybe it should be devalued? Because as it stands now as soon as crafters decide Coil 1 isn't worth their time anymore these materials cease to circulate.

No I can't expect it, that's even more ridiculous but also more simple, in my opinion. Desynthesis is simple not popular, and perhaps you don't realize how much of a effect that has on the economy. And desynthesis has been devalued, you just haven't noticed.

And WHY should it be devalued just because, as you say, no one wants to do it? That is dumb. Sigh. If the materials cease to circulate then the price of items will go up and it will then promote the circulation of said items and WA-BAM your problem is solved. Scarcity breeds demand, my friend.

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No I can't expect it, that's even more ridiculous but also more simple, in my opinion. Desynthesis is simple not popular, and perhaps you don't realize how much of a effect that has on the economy. And desynthesis has been devalued, you just haven't noticed.

And WHY should it be devalued just because, as you say, no one wants to do it? That is dumb. Sigh. If the materials cease to circulate then the price of items will go up and it will then promote the circulation of said items and WA-BAM your problem is solved. Scarcity breeds demand, my friend.

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Mmm the scarcity comment isn't entirely true. It adds value, but it doesn't always add demand... at least not in this context. Think of rare pets that have been around for a while, just for example, and how they aren't exactly selling like hotcakes despite low stock. The higher the cost (due to added value), the less likely it is to sell... assuming it's out of the budget of the average player. Any demand that has increased as a result of scarcity is temporary here, as alternatives are generally going to be available for your goal result. Or perhaps the consumer just loses interest (as is often the case with things like rare pets).

I don't believe this should happen, at least for now, for the same reason you can't request crafts. It can break. Last I checked you cannot request an overmeld. You could argue you should be able to request desynths if they are 100% but you still end up with a random item. SE seems to be taking a strick full disclosure policy for system controlled player interactions.