So a new item was introduced to us through the patch notes, the food item Shark Fin Soup.
Could we please get this re-named, or at least something amended to the flavour text?Quote:
The massive fin of a megalodon, boiled in a rich Far Eastern broth until soft and gelatinous.
While often seen as a delicacy in the East, it is a very controversial dish in the West. This is because of the practice of catching the shark only for its fin and returning the shark to the sea where it subsequently dies a slow and painful death. In the current state, Square Enix risks being considered an endorser of such a controversial dish as a delicacy, rather than holding at least a neutral stance or even acknowledging the controversial nature of the dish.
Options could be to:
- remove the reference to shark fin all together, and simply describe it as a shark broth.
- re-write the flavour text discussing how, due to demand, megalodons used to be harvested solely for the fin. That is, until pressure from the Seedseers of Gridania led to the outlawing of the practice and a requirement that the whole shark be used.
- describe how the practice of finning sharks is outlawed in the Black Shroud, but that hasn't stopped the Ul'dahns from trading in the delicacy.
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10-25-2014, 02:44 PMCatapultShark Fin Soup
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10-25-2014, 02:51 PMWakabo
Oh my god who caaaaaaares
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10-25-2014, 04:14 PMSessurea
This is a virtual world.
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10-25-2014, 04:32 PMEdenArchangel
Wouldn't eating anything that is part of a living thing offend someone, somewhere?
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10-25-2014, 04:54 PMish007xx
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10-25-2014, 08:17 PMHyouretsuzan
How come you're not up about it with shark oil then? We gotta kill them for their oil, ya know.
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10-25-2014, 08:59 PMchococo
The large selection of meats in the game is gonna upset vegetarians.
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10-26-2014, 01:59 AMMholito
I don't think this is anything to make a fuss over! Especially because you can't just cut off the fin and toss it into the sea in the game.
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10-26-2014, 10:54 AMMilleus
it shouldn't get renamed.
great opportunity to host your own stop finning campaign in game to spread awareness. -
10-26-2014, 01:06 PMTobleroneNo they don't. I'm a veggie in real life but my character isn't. My bard still eats Lava Toad Legs even if I wouldn't eat frog legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by chococo
That being said, I agree with OP. There's a difference between meat in general and something like Shark Fin Soup where animals are threatened because of it. Having it in game reflects the opinions about it of the developers, and therefore could be construed as support for the product.
I encourage anyone to read about the struggle of sharks here: http://fin-free.com/factsheets/top-r...o-ban-the-fin/ -
10-26-2014, 04:02 PMCatapultMundanely, shark oil and fish oil are by-products of the wider aquaculture industry, tying in with the practice of using as much of the Catch as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyouretsuzan
That fish you bought from the store called "flake" - it was probably shark.
But when most of the value of the catch is just in a small part of the animal because of insatiable demand for the delicacy, sustainable fishing practices start getting disregarded. The finning practice that was subsequently developed removes only the fin from the shark and returns it to the water where the Shark then dies a slow and painful death. And this can be inflicted upon swathes of populations at a time, knocking ecosystems out of kilter. This is why Shark Fin Soup is a problem. -
10-26-2014, 04:18 PMPotatoTree
Are you going to complain about how we go around killing sentient beings for the hell of it too? No? Well screw the sharks then.
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10-26-2014, 05:00 PMLebenoshl
OP have you considered how culturally insensitive you are? Your posts elaborating why western culture is superior compared to the 'uncivilized' eastern cultures are outrageous and offending to me.
OP you need to learn how to deal with different cultures. Assimilation through pointing out 'flaws' and expecting people to conform to your expectations is not how to approach an unfamiliar group. I think you should look to how Square Enix does things. I applaud Square Enix for building a game where diversity is celebrated and many different races can coexists with various cultures. Just because we don't understand a practice doesn't mean that we need to ridicule them for it. -
10-26-2014, 05:36 PMaerolol
But we kill the poor chinchilas and ladybugs all the time in FF14 !!
And also those sheeps that are slaughtered to no end for their fleece!
They even do a sad cry when they die T__T -
10-26-2014, 05:39 PMKamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri
HAHAHAHA oh wait... you're serious let me laugh even harder ROFLROFLROFLROFL.
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10-26-2014, 10:23 PMLukha
Op, there are many mobs in the game that are killed for only one or two drops, and presumably the rest is left to waste...furthermore, you may have noticed that in most cases, another one appears almost the moment you kill it... clearly the hunters and fishers of Eorzea are doing the environment a favor, as if the wildlife continues to breed at such a rate, it would only be a matter of time before the planet could no longer support it.
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10-27-2014, 06:46 PMCatapultUh, no, I'm not going to take that one lying down. I'm actually offended by your commentary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lebenoshl
In fact, I've specifically considered this a localisation issue when directed at the western audience and I am not proposing the Japanese version of the game be amended. In fact, I offer as an option simple acknowledgement within the flavour text (without taking sides) rather than utter removal. Because we're all better people when we see alternative ways of life. Cheers.
And those of you slaughtering ladybugs and marmots for fun? I can just wait for the Wood Wailers to catch up with you - the game goes into this theme in quite a degree of detail (and especially did so in v1.0). -
10-28-2014, 09:10 AMLollie
Um the wood wailers slaughter them for fun too. Chech out north shroud sometime.