Level 55 & 60 Job ability speculation

What do you think each job might get 6(?) months from now?

Summoner:

*55: Leviathan-egi. It would be fun if we can fight the egi on a mini Whorleater.
*60: Ramuh-egi.

Paladin:

*55: Reprisal. Not sure if it should do Light damage or allow a Counterattack.
*60: Knights of the Round. I'd like this to be AoE to supplement Circle of Scorn.

Warrior:

*55: Retaliation. Just as it says.
*60: Rampage. Doubles potency of attacks while under Defiance.

Bard:

*55: Herb Pastoral. Removes status ailments of those within hearing distance.
*60: Carnage Elegy. Reduces attack speed of enemies within listening distance.

White Mage:

*55: Divine Veil. Extends Esuna effect to all within the target's area.
*60: Reraise. Grants Raise without weakness. Self only.

Scholar:

*55: Modus Veritas. Increases potency of Damage Over Time spells by 50%.
*60: Rapture. Adds a Regen effect to Succor.

Black Mage:

*55: Burst. Stuns all enemies within area of effect and adds Thunder effect.
*60: Manawell. MP cost of spells is eliminated for 15 seconds.

Ideas?

For bard...that would totally make Ensuna/leeches useless. I dunno about that!
Also, for Carnage Elegy, think -cast time- would be better

I don't think reraise would be good for this game. It was awesome for ffxi due to how the fights played out, all reraise would really do is just make fights much easier allowing you to bypass death mechanics if needed.

Maybe a mass stoneskin effect for WHM?

Edit: eh, on second thought, maybe not. It's normally used at the start of fights rather than during, which is where you'd want that.

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*60: Rampage. Doubles potency of attacks while under Defiance.

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I didn't realize we assassinated balance

Reraise would be nice with a very long cooldown (15mins+) and with weakness.

Maybe ACN/SMN will get an aoe poison pool ability similar to what we see with aitar and king mog. New summons are a given.

BLM will prob get fire, ice, thunder 4

I'd like to see for PLD, Shield Oath become "-12% damage dealt", and Shield Swipe bonuses Rage of Halone (making it a defacto 3rd rotation).

A PLD dps rotation would be nice. One combo isn't enough. I mean, WAR gets three.

If you can't recover from a lb reraise <on rare occasions> how is a single reraise during a boss fight going to help I don't see it fitting in current game system.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

*60: Rampage. Doubles potency of attacks while under Defiance.

*55: Herb Pastoral. Removes status ailments of those within hearing distance.

*60: Reraise. Grants Raise without weakness. Self only.

*60: Manawell. MP cost of spells is eliminated for 15 seconds.

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Eh... these 4 all seem pretty unbalanced/overpowered to me. ._.

Hoping Paladin gets War Drum back, it'd help with AOE Tanking. For those new to the game Paladin's War Drum was an ability activated after a successful block it did minimal damage but had a high hate generation.

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Originally Posted by Bucy

Shield Swipe bonuses Rage of Halone

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Considering it already becomes available very often with a high block rate shield and doesn't break combos, this doesn't have much purpose.

I can somehow imagine DRG getting Drakesbane >_>

The problem with guessing the level 55 and 60 job abilities of every job but Summoner is that we do not know the abilities each class will get between 51 and 60. Summoner is the odd one out because we can pretty much guarantee that it will be getting Summon IV(Levi) and Summon V(Ramuh) as its two Job abilities.

Spear Brandish: 360º AoE comboed with after Ring of Thrones and Before Doom Spike.
Skydragon Dive: Enhances Dragonfire Dive, after Dragonfire Dive a 25s circle ground DoT stays on the battlefield burning every enemy on it.
LLancet: Can only be used after a parry or an evasion, does a 250 potency attack that drains 50% of damage as HP and recovers 200 TP. 2 and half minutes cooldown.
Unlimited Thrust: Combo after Full Thrust, 220 potency, 300 if used on the flanks, next skill used will be considered as a "vorpal thrust". 2 and half minutes cooldown.
Cherry Blossom: Combo after Chaos Thrust, Maximum Range AoE, 120 potency. Slows all enemies on screen and gives them Chaos status for 45 seconds.

Trait

Way of the Lance: Increases the range of spear attacks. (thinking about it needing to be twice as other melee, one and half times other melee)

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Originally Posted by Hayward

Warrior:
*60: Rampage. Doubles potency of attacks while under Defiance.
Bard:
*55: Herb Pastoral. Removes status ailments of those within hearing distance.
White Mage:
*60: Reraise. Grants Raise without weakness. Self only.

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Not sure if leaving out detail was intentional, but what I see may be quite unbalanced. Just a few gripes:

Rampage would need a limited time and severely long (5min) recast, otherwise it's as if Defiance gives completely free HP and heal potency as long as it's up. Herb Pastoral negates the need for esuna/leeches, would not even be considered the way songs work in this game. Reraise would still need to put weakness, and would need a long recast time (5 mins at the very least).



As for some of my ideas (not complete, kinda coming up with it as I go):
ACN:
52
57 Aetherdam IV (trait)- able to stack 4 aetherflows

SCH:
55
60 New fairy (Lily? Debatable.)

SMN:
55 New Egi
60 New Egi

ARC:
52 Sidewinder- lowers accuracy by 35%, but increases potency of attacks by 50% for 15 seconds. 4 minute recast.
57 Decoy shot- Pacifies target for 6 seconds, 0 potency, 1 minute recast

BRD:
55 Advancing March- Lowers enemy's slash resistance when in range of the song, like Foe Requiem does not impede Bard's own attack (reasoning being tanks do more damage since they're the only slashing role so far, and there's no slashing debuff to my knowledge, whereas Disembowel and Dragon Kick do piercing and blunt respectively. Would be useful with no blm/smn, and heals are not/can't afford to attack).
60 Troubadour- Only usable while playing a song, unable to stop song until Troubadour's duration is over. Further reduces own attack (and reduces attack if playing foe/advancing), but MP is not consumed for 10 seconds. 5 minute recast.

Conjurer:
52 Deluge- AoE DoT around caster (think circle of scorn).
55 Earthen Ward- Next Stoneskin will be applied to all within an 8 yalm radius of the caster (like medica, not targeted like cure III). 5 minute recast (to avoid it being used too much, AoE SS could be very overpowered)

WHM:
55
60 Reraise- Applies buff that allows self resurrection upon death for 3 minutes, weakness applies. 5 minute recast.

GLD:
52 Crescent Strike- AoE cone attack with Enmity gain, higher potency than Overpower. 20 second recast (gotta differentiate a bit from WAR, right?)
57

PLD:
55 Hallowed Bolt- Ranged, off GCD, single target enmity gain attack. Range of Provoke, recast 30 seconds.
60 Judgement Blade- Applies DoT if comboed off of Riot Blade. 10% chance of proccing a free flash.

THM
52
57

BLM
55
60 Burst- AoE Thunder (applies DoT to all in circle, which version of Thunder is debatable, I don't BLM), place like Freeze/Shadow Flare.

PGL
52
55

MNK
55
60 Chi Blast- Ranged single target attack with high potency, only usable when target HP is below 20% (like misery's end, mercy stroke).

LNC
52
57

DRG
55
60 SUPER Jump - Double potency Jump. Double recast.

MRD
52
57

WAR
55
60

Yes, it's incomplete. If I remember I'll update it later on lol.

I would like perhaps an attack reach expansion for DRG and a new jump.

I honestly would love to see SCH get a new fairy. It goes against the very lore of the SCH quest (Lily), but I'd love to see a male fairy introduced - like Helios.

Scholar:
Lvl 55 - Physick II - Heals the target and grants it a SoT (shield over time) effect that creates a small shield every 3 seconds. Has a higher healing potency than the normal Physick spell, but also noticeably higher MP cost.
Lvl 60 - Shield Conversion - Increases healing done by 15%. In addition, all shield effects become direct healing effects while Conversion is active. Duration: 12 or 15 seconds, 3m cooldown.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Hoping Paladin gets War Drum back, it'd help with AOE Tanking. For those new to the game Paladin's War Drum was an ability activated after a successful block it did minimal damage but had a high hate generation.

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^This. I've long suspected SE has deliberately been keeping the missing abilities from version 1.0 carefully in reserve for level cap increases, so we're likely to see such vanished abilities as Phalanx and that PLD healing spell whose name eludes me at the moment. ;)

WAR will get an ability called Rive, which is a line AOE.
MNK will get an ability called Hundred Fists, which increases auto-attack speed, and will give the MNK afterimages.

That's all I know so far.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

that PLD healing spell whose name eludes me at the moment. ;)

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I didn't play 1.XX and I know that ability was called Holy Succor XD

For Summoner, I really would like to at some point see that ability Tristan used to absorb the Egi's power in the Level 50 Boss fight. Maybe it could work kind of like WoW Warlock's Grimoire of Sacrifice, where you gain a couple abilities depending on the Egi you absorb.

Black Mage Level 60 ability should be Ultima. No more support spells please...

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Paladin:

*55: Reprisal. Not sure if it should do Light damage or allow a Counterattack.
*60: Knights of the Round. I'd like this to be AoE to supplement Circle of Scorn.

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A type of counter attack ability would be nice, but it really depends on how it works. If it's an auto attack type counter it's not even worth it. Your KoR ability sounds useful as PLD really does need better AOE type damage for crowd control situations. Although I'd really like to see a return of Holy Succor and Aegis Boon personally.

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Warrior:

*55: Retaliation. Just as it says.
*60: Rampage. Doubles potency of attacks while under Defiance.

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You already have a retaliation ability (vengeance). Unless you have a different effect for it in mind.

Unchained already gives you an effect that negates the damage penalty of being in defiance, and as Exstal already pointed out anything more would be a bit unbalanced.

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Bard:

*55: Herb Pastoral. Removes status ailments of those within hearing distance.
*60: Carnage Elegy. Reduces attack speed of enemies within listening distance.

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UltimateAoe2 summed it up pretty well concerning Pastoral as it would undermine sch/whm abilities. Although I could see this where the song basically speeds up the count down on the timer of the ailment so it wears off more quickly. But the use of this song would hardly ever be used as it would be extremely situational. I'm sure something better can be made.

Carnage Elegy is pretty interesting though. Basically it's an aura effect that puts slow onto all within range.

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Black Mage:

*55: Burst. Stuns all enemies within area of effect and adds Thunder effect.
*60: Manawell. MP cost of spells is eliminated for 15 seconds.

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I can see Burst working as an AOE thunder effect (with a lengthy cool down) minus the stun as a stun or paralysis effect would make it a little over powered IMO.

Manawell is basically 6 free casts. Kind of on the wall with this one.

Do try to remember that any new abilities will have to be balanced with the as-yet unknown abilities of the new jobs. :P For all we know the entire system could change! Not as drastically as WoW does in-between expansions, but the possibility exists.

Also, a couple people have eluded to it, but Classes will be getting new abilities as you level as well. Not just the jobs every 5 levels.

I support Burst (It would apply Thunder III. The only difference between the Thunders is initial damage, which differs by 10 potency each, and the time the DoT lasts), and I'm amazed MNK hasn't gotten Chi Blast, yet. Would love to see a damage-oriented Fairy, for when overkill healing isn't necessary and obviously SMN's are getting more Egi's. :P

Whm should get haste! :D

Aerials* - Successful Full Thrust combos have a ??% chance to reset the cooldown of Spineshatter Dive.
High Jump - Leap into the air for ? seconds, becoming immune to all attacks. Crash down with a potency of ???.

Bard
Level 55:Debilitaing music-lowers enemy accuracy by 30%
Level 60:Arrow of Heaven- Massive damage! Equal to the Elegost's True Shot from LOTR third age

Scholar
Level 55:New Fairy- That raises allies!!
Level 60:Twin Sisters- Allows 2 fairies but lowers your healing by 10% or Heaven's Gift-lowers damage taken by 30% or gives regen to those in the vicinity.

THM/BLM:

• Class Ability 1: A PvE version of Phantom Dart with a similar icon and effect
• Class Ability 2: Some sort of Dark Spell
• Job Ability 1: From FF XII we have Bubble: a spell that doubles the current max HP, however it would have a cool-down of 15 minuets and lasts 10 minuetes
• Job Ability 2: AoE thunder spell (Burst)

ARC:

• Class Ability 1: Yet another DoT
• Class Ability 2: Spikes (icon and effect changes based on egi summoned, SCH and no pet has a default effect)
• Class Ability 3: Summon III will be a class ability. New Carbuncle and Fairy will be introduced

SMM:

• Job Ability 1: Summon IV (Leviathan)
• Job Ability 2: Summon V (Ramuh)
• Job Ability 3: Summon VI (Shiva) or an attack like the OHKO mechanic in Tamtara HM's Avere fight (in aesthetics)

SCH:

• Job Ability 1: Psychic II
• Job Ability 2: Walpargisnaught: Summons all 3 faeries to heal a player to max, their version of Benediction but also swaps out one summon for another (in a fixed cycle of Eos > Selene > unknown 3rd fairy)

To do this you will have to remember the base Job as well. They will add additional skills to it. Every other 2 levels they will get a skill and a trait.
Then for the Jobs They Will get one Skill at 55 and 60.

GLA:

52 Trait: Enhanced Vitality Adds 24 Vitality

54 Weapon Skill:

Requiescat
Cast: Instant Recast: Global Tp Cost: 60
Delivers a four fold attack with a potency of 125.
Combo Action: Riot Blade
Combo Bonus: Reduces targets highest stat by 5% Combo Potency: 260

56: Trait: Enhanced Shield Swipe. Can now Proc Rage of Halone.

58: Weapon Skill:

Phalanx
Cast: Instant Recast: Global Tp Cost: 120
Delivers a four fold attack with a potency of 125.
Combo Action: Shield Bash
Combo Bonus: Decreases damage taken by 5%

60: Trait: Enhanced Requiescat: Increase combo potency to 300. Increase stat reduction to 10%

PLD:

55: Holy Shield:Decrease’s the damage the party takes by 10% for 10 seconds. 120second CD.

60: Weapon Skill

Knights of The Round
Cast:Instant Recast: 60 Seconds MP Cost: All remaining Mp
Does damage based on the amount of MP you have. Reduces the Potency of the enemies next special attack by 10%

Knights will most likely not be a skill. They've already mentioned that the "Knights" will be appearing in Ishgard in the coming expansion. They also mentioned something about a "Round Table".

Perhaps change Requiescat to Vorpal Blade and change Knights to Requiescat.

As someone who mains warrior, I'd love to see a fourth combo skill that gains wrath. Needing five and comboing them in sets of two (sans Vengeance and Berserk) it a little odd sometimes.

And now I'm just going to nostalgia it up for a bit.
As for a trait, healing on crits would be lovely to have back.
As well as Mighty Strikes. All attacks crit for a specified amount of time.
And, last but not least, Steadfast! Stand still to increase your parry rate. While 2.0 has greatly changed the way tanking is done, with lots of movements, it would still be nice to have because even while avoiding avoidable damage, I'll never say no to more parry.

I'm hoping for enhanced Transpose for BLM, going between UI and AF at the same level instead of to UI1/AF1.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I'm hoping for enhanced Transpose for BLM, going between UI and AF at the same level instead of to UI1/AF1.

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That would probably made Fire/Blizzard III redundant. These spells were meant to obsolete Transpose outside of Flare's drawback

You know what would be interesting? if they added more cross-class slots and abilities (It would also be interesting to have BLM access both Aero and Aero II or have SMM access Aero II and a Thunder spell)

I like reraise...but the potential for broken or futile is high.
How about this: make it only castable during battle. Raise to half hp/mana/tp with weakness. Otherwise just a bit more mana and cast time than regular raise.

I am a Scholar main and we need a direct Mes/CC skill. Yes we have a 1s/40s Silence on Selene but we need something on *ourselves*.

I'm not even asking for something AoE. A single target will do especially if it's off-gcd.

I would love to see Hastemarch and/or Life's Anthem for Bards.

Is there any word if we were getting a Shiva-Egi? It will be strange if Shiva is left out till the second expansion but unless Arcanist gets Summon IV as spell I don't see a way for SMNs to get Shiva. That would be awesome because it could also gives us a Ruby Carbuncle and a Fairy that has more debuffs instead of buffs.

so much OP skills...i'm glad you folks aren't devs ;)
this isn't even speculation, just wishful thinking.