Can we please have the two people in the red (sorry I forget their names and I know I shouldnt have...) from the live letter this weekend be in all future live letters! It added a different dynamic and provided us English speaking folk a quicker translation that reflected the nuance and not just the general impression.
I love the live letters and always looked forward to the more in depth translation but it takse weeks after the fact to get it. I might actually be more inclined to stay up for the live stream of it.
Please have live translators for future live letters for us English speaking folk.
Like if you agree.
for Future Live letters.
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10-21-2014, 08:12 AMMageBlackfor Future Live letters.
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10-21-2014, 08:14 AMBarboron
Not only does it take some time, but I see the answer posted several times, across the forums and lodestone. But on top of that, Koji is a pretty cool guy (one of them guys in red), would be nice to get him in there.
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10-21-2014, 08:18 AMTessaJalloh
Koji was quite a highlight at Fanfest, especially his rapid fire switching of hats to try and sing moggle mog. And his translations were so natural and well flowing instead of being literal translations. Definitely need him there for other live letters.
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10-21-2014, 08:30 AMShougun
I think it would be great to see our reps (CM, localization, lore, what have you) be part of live letters and more events. If they would like to be of course, no intention to make them do it if they hate it lol.
Anyway I'm sure they love me cause grass or something but I think they're pretty cool. Compared to a lot of other game companies SE has great foreign relation (we're a big market but we're also not the first language), still as a player with boundless wants it would be amazing to have each live letter sort of like the events done thus far in English. A bit of a pipe dream though, I understand the difficulty, quite a bit of coordination, work, and therefore the money it would take to do well.
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10-21-2014, 08:33 AMHakuroDK
The devs would be foolish not to acknowledge how good Koji is to have around.
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10-21-2014, 08:37 AMDefendPopPunk
Yeah I agree. I appreciate the amateur translators that help us non-japanese speakers stay up to date, but there's no denying that Koji is a pretty awesome guy to have around for things like this (and just in general, he's great).
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10-21-2014, 08:41 AMBarboron
I'm not sure who the female translator was that translated for Yoshi-P a lot. She was good too, kind of nervous she seemed XD but she did a great job!
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10-21-2014, 08:42 AMInflorescence
So what's the relationship between Koji and the other translator? (I'm sorry I forgot her name!) Koji's the localization lead, right? So is he her boss? Or are they on the same level? She seemed really nervous, I wanted to just tell her that it'll be okay, haha. But if you put me in front of thousands of people to do what is probably not the job I signed up for in front of my boss, I'd probably be nervous, too.
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10-21-2014, 08:49 AMGralna
I'd very much like to see this for future LIVE letters, however I do see devs hesitation to do so, since if they provide an english translator they'd have to add a french and german one too otherwise those communities would cry foul. I think a good balance would be to have seperate audio for each localization setup with translators speaking off camera for their respective languages.
What I'd enjoy most though, would be if LIVE letters were pre-recorded and had subtitles. They'd still be recorded "live" we just wouldnt be seeing it live. -
10-21-2014, 09:00 AMBarboronFair point about the other languages but of all but Japanese, English would have the largest player base. Not only with players from UK and a lot of Europe, but NA. A lot of European players (mainly the French and German) seem to have a good understanding of English. On top of that, the FanFest was provided in English anyway. I know, I know, it was in NA and the next one is in the UK, both English speaking. If the demand for a French and German one is significant enough, I can't see why they wouldn't have it.Quote:
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10-22-2014, 01:06 AMMageBlackYa, you and your grass... It totally killed the game eh! Lol! Anyway, Glad to see some support for this. It may be more of a pipe dream than I realized at first given that the majority of the live letters were in the offices in Tokyo (or Japan somewhere) and they would have to ship him out to participate. Unless they did a kind of collective skype call where they were all participating. Either way, I would so love to have a live English translation as the feed is streamed. Like how you get that sign-language lady in the bottom corner of the screen only Koji would interact with the speakers. The other lady was pretty awesome too, a little nervous perhaps, but if she does it more often that will subside.Quote:
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Hope you get your High Rez grass in the DX11 client! -
10-23-2014, 01:48 PMMageBlack
Please help me make some more noise to show how much we all appreciated Koji Fox!
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10-23-2014, 01:55 PMShougun;D, I have about 6 mods just for grass in skyrim (one made by me O_o). It is a bit of an obsession but at least when I play skyrim I know I'm not alone, some of the mods are even in the top downloaded list (Nexus) lol.Quote:
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Although I have not made a thread since 1.0, as I think for the most part they have /greatly/ improved the quality (from 1.0). I was worried in alpha and early beta just because it looked similarly bad but stayed silent as they had a number of updates through the whole process. So... I'm pretty happy.
Next want is 3d water, specially the oceans xD. Actually I noticed back in beta I made a small list of graphical wants, and almost all have them have been addressed - I've been rather hopeful about the whole process to be honest.
Mad props for the closing song. He has volunteered himself for more events, you can't perform that well and then disappear - you now have to do an encore lol.Quote:
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10-23-2014, 01:59 PMMageBlack
I would expect a lot of textures to be improved with the DX11 client, although I dont know if they will be upgrading any models. But this is the nice thing about an ever evolving MMO, they constantly upgrade and update.
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10-23-2014, 02:57 PMShougunYeah I suppose it depends on what they do, like Dark Souls 2's was probably a set of models but usually it doesn't require a model just as much as it requires a series of smexy wave functions, which DX11 can help with (can do without ofc).Quote:
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Just to make sure though, joke about killing the game - not to confuse me with someone else. I never said the game would die if they didn't improve the grass, or actually at any point have I said the game would die without doing something I've suggested. So.. just making sure I don't have a false image.
It sounds like Koji actually hangs out in Japan so that might be feasible, I just said pipe dream since it already takes SE a few days to get the QA/Video finalized - it seems they would have even more trouble getting someone to do it near live in all English (that and then people would expect other supported languages too). But I agree it would be awesome, very awesome ~
:D . . . *secretly plans to train an S rank NM over you while doing the viking dance* lol, it is a funny request but compared to other games back in the 1.0 era I felt like it should be better, lo and behold it is now better - and I hope to not mention it again ;)Quote:
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10-23-2014, 03:02 PMMageBlack
Naw, Grass was never a "Game Breaker" topic but it did feel a little over inflated. It was just fun to bug you ;)
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10-23-2014, 03:27 PMruskieEven so should be probably much easier to find a English to German/French translators all around with regards to fan translations on the fly.Quote:
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But I agree Koji Foxand Aimi Tokutake would be good it have around for the dynamic. -
10-23-2014, 03:46 PMMysteranI would like to wholeheartedly support this idea. Koji Fox and Aimi Tokutake both did a really superb job and I'd like to commend them both.Quote:
Originally Posted by MageBlack
I'd love to see live or even near-live translation for the Live Letters. Could even be a case of once the live letter is over, the translators can go through it and pause to add translations in after each question and release that video.
Thank you, Ruskie! Updated my post to include the name. I really didn't like calling her "that other translator." It felt like I was slighting her after all the great work she did.Quote:
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10-23-2014, 04:21 PMruskie
Aimi Tokutake was the woman translator. It's mentioned in an interview on gamerescape.(I kinda recalled Aisomethingc but wasn't sure)
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10-23-2014, 05:22 PMVesparI don't mind her, but she seemed.. stiff.. like she didn't care about the game and was only hired just to translate. Kind of like she lacked emotion or something :/Quote:
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10-23-2014, 05:23 PMTsuwu
Few things, not to be a spoil sport, but here's a few notes:
1. Whomever said it would be a task getting MCKF in the office for the Live Letters: He resides/works in Tokyo as far as I know. At least from how he talks about Yoshida casually "stopping by" his desk and his off US primetime posts, this is what I gather.
2. He is an -extremely- busy guy. Like he said, whenever he isn't busy naming places or writing some new language for lyrics to the next theme, he's knee deep in "Teh is supposed to be 'the'" posts. On top of that, he is the primary guy in making sure English ends up as smooth as it is for us US players, and pulling him aside for live letters might not be so easily done.
3. SE has an incredibly talented employee in our "used-to-be-peer" Reinhart Sublimen. They should put him on the job. -
10-24-2014, 12:59 AMShougunI hoped that was him, he deserved it! But was it confirmed? I think I was out selling the world when our new reps came about, still playing catch up on some news lol.Quote:
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*Waves to Rein* . .
*Rein does not wave back* ..
* HAY HAY YOU, YOU WAVE TO ME*
*Zantetsuken*
Orz