...can we have it? What I heard at FanFest blew the original out of the water imo.
New Ifrit music...
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10-21-2014, 12:32 AMAntaniasNew Ifrit music...
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10-21-2014, 12:39 AMVelhart
No thanks, Nobuo Uematsu's version is fine.
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10-21-2014, 12:41 AMMerylxIs there a video on youtube/net floating around of the differences? I'm intrigued.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antanias
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10-21-2014, 01:52 AMBrightshadow
I think ifrit needs a new song his current one doesn't fit compared to what the others have.
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10-21-2014, 02:20 AMFumijj_Gah
The only hope is they will throw Soken and call back Uematsu and Mizuta: Soken has no idea about making music for FF saga, we need more japanese style with minimal sounds and flute, less epic/orchestral.
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10-21-2014, 02:22 AMhamsteakum ifrit's theme was made by uematsu? soken had nothing to with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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10-21-2014, 02:25 AMFumijj_GahI am not talking about Ifrit theme, but generally. Soken also ruined the original Over Windy Meadows that actually was the new Ronfaure.Quote:
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Soken doesn't belong to the saga, it's totally a different style even if his music is not bad, it's not the feeling we had before. -
10-21-2014, 02:28 AMhamsteakto each their own, i actually enjoy soken's music, especially the battle themes and coil musicQuote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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10-21-2014, 02:30 AMFumijj_GahCoil music is a remix of Answer, the amazing main theme Uematsu made time ago. But yes, Coil music is good. Not only Coil, I also enjoy Ul'dah at night. Soken makes for sure good tracks, but still too far away from FF saga style.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamsteak
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10-21-2014, 02:33 AMhamsteaki think FFXIV:ARR has its own identity (sonically), there's no reason it should sound like past games when there are references to past FF games everywhere in-gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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10-21-2014, 02:36 AMFumijj_GahHmm, since Soken made almost everything in ARR, it's a nice point: but everytime I turn off BGM in game and run FFXIV 1.0 playlist on iTunes, I do feel the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamsteak
But it's mainly because I was too close to the whole saga for years and Uematsu or Mizuta sounds remind me of the good old time. -
10-21-2014, 02:55 AMFelisExist there another version of Over Windy Meadows from Soken?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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10-21-2014, 03:43 AMChibionieko
Its not all soken. Yoshi P decides yay/nay on every single track. Or as Soken put it. Yoshi Primal "RECOMPOSE!"
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10-21-2014, 03:51 AMFumijj_GahYep, this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
And even if it's ruined I must say it's one of the best ARR tracks imho, mainly because made by Uematsu. :p -
10-21-2014, 03:59 AMFelisIt's not even a re-mix. It is a complete different song.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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10-21-2014, 04:30 AMSkyl1n3So you prefer 'Nail of The Heavens' to 'Torn From The Heavens'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah
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10-21-2014, 05:21 AMGilraenYeah, listening to the two songs there's a clear similarity, but I'd have to say it's more 'inspired by' than remixed. And given it's usage it fits alot better than the previous would have. I like all the music but then when has a Final Fantasy ever had bad music? Also... I would like to hear this new Ifrit theme...Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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10-21-2014, 05:50 AMRennah
Okay, I've been a FF-series fan for 13 years, and I still have to disagree with Fumijj_Gah. Soken's an excellent composer, and I love the music we've got right now. Don't get me wrong, I love Uematsu's work as much as the next person, but no two composers are going to have identically-sounding work, unless that's what they're trying to do. And I'd much rather see someone hired who creates music with their own personal stamp on it than a copycat of someone else. It's not Uematsu, but it doesn't have to be. Love them or hate them (it's not really relevant here), XII and XIII had different composers as well, and those soundtracks helped to set the tone of those games with their own musical stamp, just like Shimomura Yoko's going to do for XV. Uematsu is no longer the only composer to ever be valid in the realm of Final Fantasy as a series, and a different feel isn't a bad thing, it's just different.
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10-21-2014, 06:00 AMShougun
Soken is great and so is Uematsu, whynotboth.jpg. XD
Soken's primal tracks are awesome but dang- Twilight Over Thanalan needs to be back too.. night time Thanalan track please lol. -
10-21-2014, 12:37 PMAntaniasI will agree with this :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
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10-21-2014, 01:14 PMReokudo
We meet again, Ant! *Readies drake fire*
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10-21-2014, 01:17 PMTheplatter
Ok, I met Soken, and he's a really cool guy. He took a pic with our group at Fanfest, signed our notebooks, and even commented on my Star Wars shirt ("Nice shirt!") lol. That said, his music is very hit or miss. I agree that for primals and other boss fights, his music works well for the most part*, but outdoor music should have been left from 1.0.
*They played a bit of Soken's score for the Shiva fight, which they said would play after the fight reached a certain point (I'm assuming post-Diamond Dust), and tbh it sounded more like the opening theme for an anime series than exciting boss battle music... -
10-21-2014, 01:23 PMDefendPopPunk
Hmmm, listening to those 1.0 tracks you all posted really made me think a lot of ffxi. Nobuo is awesome like that, very consistent in the quality and feel of his music.
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10-21-2014, 01:29 PMJeykama
Didn't really care for the Ifrit rock rendition, but only because I never really cared for the Ifrit music. Uematsu or not, it's a pretty expressionless track.
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10-21-2014, 01:31 PMCyrus-Wallace
Wow, I really love Soken's music but I also love Nobuo's music. This game looks a lot like every Ivalice game I've ever played (I'm staring at you, Akihiko Yoshida) so I was expecting more Hitoshi Sakimoto than Nobuo/Soken. But I appreciate both composers the same way, so I'm fine either way. I can always listen to the "original track" in YouTube or buying the game's OST.
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10-21-2014, 01:44 PMEstelliosWell I have a feeling that based on the name of the track itself (Primal Fury I think?) and the fact that it was an early song I'm guessing that it was intended to be the song used in all primal battles which explains why it's kind of generic. So glad they all have their own music even if I don't like a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeykama
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10-21-2014, 02:33 PMAkira_Tenshi
Well the theme for new Snowcloak dungeon blew me away. It is absolutely beautiful. The soundtrack has been a bit hit and miss for me with this game but It's starting to get much better. I love the vocal primal themes, the Shiva theme is amazing.
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10-21-2014, 02:50 PMEstelliosWith a soundtrack this large there are bound to be ones that you don't like. People are praising Nobuo's music but there definitely were some tracks that I could not stand in 1.0 just like there's tracks I don't like in ARR, but as a whole I love both of them a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi
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10-21-2014, 02:53 PMGilraenYeah, I felt some songs in 1.0 were poorly placed. Like the Limsa theme was way off, I think. It didn't convey the image of a pirate town at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estellios
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10-21-2014, 05:40 PMHaprimac
When I first played ARR in beta phase 2 and 3, I was very impressed by the music. I thought Uematsu had composed them and I was hyping to my FF-friends that Uematsu has really done it this time. Was surprised to find out it wasn't him at all in the end.
There's not many songs that I don't like from ARR, think most of the "urgh" songs are battle songs like the FATE boss that really gets annoying fast. Not too into the primal boss songs, either, although I admit that they fit the battles. Just not something I'd listen to while not playing the game.
I adore the La Noscean, Black Shroud and Thanalan songs and of course the town day/night songs. The Ultima weapon (1st and 2nd fight) songs are also among my favourites. :) Okay, now I gotta stop before I gush too much. -
10-21-2014, 05:58 PMBlackheart
aaah i remember turning on my pc just to listen to Twilight over Thanalan would sometimes just sit around on XIV just listening to it. I'm actually quite sad they removed it from ARR, i would definitely welcome it back into the game