At first it was something that I thought was a funny coincidence, but now I'm not so sure that's the case. This actually might have already been discussed, and if it has, I'm probably just incredibly late to the party. Let's break down what pure-blooded Garleans we've seen in-game without some sort of headgear on.
Nero. Cid. ...And come 2.4, the "new" emperor. Or possibly an echo flashback to the coronation of Galvus?
Alright. So, three pure-blooded Garleans. Four if we count the artwork of an elderly Galvus. Five if we count a certain person from the binding coil. Take a good look at all three of them, though, and see if you notice something.
http://i.imgur.com/Dn7MIQq.png
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...nanGarlond.png
http://i.imgur.com/lZHH6to.jpg
And if we count this spoilerific picture from a certain binding coil.
The lighting in there doesn't provide a solid example example, but the hair is crystal clear. That's a whole different can of worms, given the origin of said person, of course.
As of 2.4, we have another to add to the list!
Blonde hair. Blue eyes. Strong, muscular features. Hailing from the north. Like a certain nordic people.
Now, granted, we can't see the color of the emperor's eyes, but, they appear to be light in color, and I wouldn't be surprised if they too wind up being blue. We know the Garlean pure-bloods are a different race, what with their biological inability to wield magic and strange third eye.
Going with the theme of the empire in general, I'm suddenly thinking that the Garlean pure-bloods might just be based off the concept of the Aryan race. Could just be a load of hot air and pure coincidence, but I think it'd be an interesting concept if this were actually the case, as quite a few connections can start to be drawn even further than they have been in the past.
So, I noticed something interesting about the pure-blooded Garleans we've seen so far
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10-20-2014, 07:16 PMEndemerrinSo, I noticed something interesting about the pure-blooded Garleans we've seen so far
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10-20-2014, 08:40 PMTorquil
I don't think it's hot air. Gaius' entire speech about how "I deserve it because I have the power to take it" is very much a "might is right" philosophy which was thing in Nazi Germany (right? Not a history guy XD).
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10-21-2014, 05:05 PMAlice_89thWhile the Garleans (or at least the ones we've seen) certainly fit the "blond hair, blue eyes, strong physique" ideal of the (Nazi Germany) Aryan, their treatment of the other races seems a little different. While perhaps not seeing them as equal they do allow them (or more likely, force) them to fight in their armies and gain citizenship. So while they might adhere to physical ideal their philosophy seems different, at least to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torquil
But we don't even have to drag theories about the "master race" into this. The blonde hair-blue eyes-strong muscular features are indeed similar to the Aryan, or more specific, Nordic race. Which as the name implies hails from the north, which coincides with the alleged location of the Garlean empire.
EDIT after playing 2.4: Exept that the guy in the above image turns out to have yellow/golden eys. -
10-23-2014, 04:22 PMKotemon
The hair looks more white and silver than anything else, and now that I think about it. They may have more in common to the Lunarian's from FF4. Eroza did have a second artifical moon. The Crystal tower may be connected to it but with all that crystal in Mor Dona, I'm suprised there's not a Crystal Palace burried somewhere also.
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10-24-2014, 07:41 AMAlenoreExcept the whole "I'm a race of magic users" part.Quote:
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In short they only have hair in common. -
10-30-2014, 09:06 AMVargasVermillion
Bit late but I also noticed that if you look at giaus, his tribunes and garlean centurions they all have some sort of seeing glass for their third eye on their helmets, suggesting they can see through it to some capacity. (they haven't really mentioned what their third eye actually does.)
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11-01-2014, 01:43 AMEndemerrin
Well, the blue eyes thing may not be the case, BUT...
...This little 2.4 spoiler seems to add more to the blonde/silvery hair theory. -
11-01-2014, 04:53 AMBautiShe is not garlean, is just pure conicendence + false rumors xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Endemerrin
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11-01-2014, 04:59 AMtwilitfallLook again. Under her circlet, there is the third eye that all pure-blood Garleans have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauti
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11-01-2014, 05:03 AMBautiIs part of the circlet >< common. Also she was showed on the trailer.You think they will show us such a big spoiler? hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by twilitfall
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11-01-2014, 05:10 AMtwilitfallLast I checked (and I'm a GSM, I would know), circlets don't include little ovals directly on/in the skin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauti
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11-01-2014, 05:13 AMBauti
You arent sure, looking at the temple knight commander's gear. There is a lot of new armors we havent seen yet. Look the thing is there is no enought evidence on this. Also if this was so easy to discover, why nothing happened on 2,4 main scenario? Yoshida is not the kind of guy that doesnt know how to hide something related of this game.
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11-01-2014, 05:57 AMliliruluAll circlets jewels are rentangles not round or pearl shaped (if the circlet has a jewel in it at all) and I went and took my own screenshots which clearly show they it is not apart of the circlet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauti
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11-01-2014, 07:42 AMSaikou
It appears to be below and somewhat obscured by the circlet. You can see the square gem that is actually a part of the circlet... this certainly raises questions...
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11-01-2014, 03:48 PMEndemerrinShe most certainly is a pure-blood. That isn't a part of her circlet. It's both underneath, and embedded in her skin. You can see the outline of the impression it makes on her forehead. Plus, take a look at her body type. The first thing I thought when I saw her was "Wow, she's way too tall for a Hyur, and doesn't have Elezen ears."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauti
At first I thought she might be a Hyur/Elezen half breed, but that was unmistakeably a third eye on her forehead. Unless I remember incorrectly, Aymeric also makes a point to mention he doesn't care that Lucia isn't Elezen, and trusts her explicitly regardless of her heritage. As linked above a few posts by Lilirulu, this couldn't be more of a clear shot.
Last, but not least, her name is Lucia. Given the overall naming conventions of Garleans we've seen thus far (Livia, for example), her massive height (Another trait of Garlean pure-bloods), her blatant third eye, and running with the idea of the thread, her hair color, I think it's plain as day that she's a pure-blooded Garlean. :> -
11-02-2014, 12:04 AMBauti
Is kind of starnge, if this was so easy to see, why there was no mension to of it? If SE would want to hide strange things we would notice, something like this would not be ignored so easy
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11-02-2014, 03:42 AMlilirulu
We weren't supposed to find it yet. But then Lalafell had to come in and ruin everything.
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11-02-2014, 04:42 AMBauti
You know Yoshida is not the kind of person that doesnt know how to hide spoilers.
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11-02-2014, 08:49 AMWellFooledHave you ever watched the TV show Lost? It wouldn't have lasted a season if they drew attention to each interesting hint and mystery.Quote:
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The reason things like this are fun is because they don't put it under a spotlight or explain it, it's a puzzle hidden inside a story. -
11-02-2014, 10:06 PMliliruluIt's called 'hiding in plain sight' same thing they did with Cid in the 2.0 main scenario. I'm sure YoshiP and the other developers were hoping no one was going to take advantage of the fact that Lucia cannot wear a circlet like other players can (if she did the 3rd eye would clip through the circlet model) and not being a nosy lalafell and looking up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauti
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11-02-2014, 10:32 PMSaikou
This is too good not to share with /r/ffxiv/. Thanks for the screencap, Endemerrin.
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11-07-2014, 08:06 PMApplesnapHe doesn't mention race, since that would be way too obvious for loremongers such as we. The exact quote for this citation is: [Aymeric] "Not being of Ishgardian birth, she owes no allegiance to any noble house, making her as near to incorruptible as one can find in my homeland. Suffice it to say, I trust her completely, and so may you."Quote:
Originally Posted by Endemerrin
Same as you, I initially thought she was the first Elezen-Hyur offspring they've shown to us, but didn't make the connection until recently. Had one and one but didn't make two ... hah. Another very interesting part of this cs (Main Scenario > "The Road Less Travelled") is when Lucia is speaking. The camera angle, zoom, her expression and the tension put into the scene - along with her words - are so obvious when you know what she is. It's undeniable.
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11-07-2014, 11:44 PMSakasa
Well I like to say about Yoshi hiding things...you know they had a rogue in the leviathan promotional art, as well as the scholar in the promo art prior to 2.0 launch which was caught and picked up by everyone. There is no point in hiding things people shouldn't be looking for, so having them there makes it more interesting in my opinion.