It's been like a very long time since I use their services, And it filled me with joy when they can finally be more useful than just keeping our stuff. But after some time, this has became a question on it's own.
Why every time I send them to 18 hours venture, they only bring back like very small percentage of effort amount I can do in 18 hours?
For example, my miner keeps bringing me like 3 darksteel ores / gold ores each time. Now, in 18 hours, there should be 18 unyield node pops. And each farm I did on every pop will get me maximum (or should I say general acquirement) of 18 ores. Times that to 18 hours and you get 324 ores you can get. That's like more than 100 times than my retainers brings back to me.
And let's not speak of my DoW/DoM retainer which only brings (useless) 3 coeurl meat/skin. In 18 hours straight, I bet I can farm like thousands of it. lol
The venture coins are not quite cheap either. I must slave away myself farming GC seals, hunt seals, or do beastmen dailies to get them in order to pay retainers for their services.
And worse of all, they still hasn't bring me those minions in which their rarity becoming more obnoxious.
So... here's a question: are they still worth to pay for service? I believe I can earn way more without using their services, excluding those rarity stuff they "rarely" would bring which may or may not important to some people.
What do you think? Think retainers can and should bring more than our own effort, no? lol
Why (my) retainers r so lazy?
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10-15-2014, 04:58 PMBobbinTWhy (my) retainers r so lazy?
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10-15-2014, 07:34 PMcharlemagne
They probably mine for like five minutes then spend the rest of the time helping my retainers carry the roof they just "found".
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10-15-2014, 07:41 PMShneibel
the last time I complain to my retainer and give them some slaps, they bring back Raging Vortex Couch 1h after
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10-15-2014, 07:46 PMNuinn
One Malm Kelp.... Malm Friggin Kelp!!! From a lv50 retainer in i100+ gear. Seriously??? *kicks him in the groin and gives him the finger*
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10-15-2014, 07:47 PMFyce
May I remind you that a great and wise sage once showed us the real truth about retainer ventures?
You can find your answer on the sacred lands of xivnomnom.com
As for this particular case...
http://www.xivnomnom.com/wp-content/..._retainers.png
Thank you, great nomnom. -
10-15-2014, 07:49 PMEcks007
You uh, can also get stacks of ventures from Boarskin and Piesteskin treasure maps.
I gather up a map every day and do the Ixali quests everyday. The only reason my ventures have started decreasing is because I've been sending my to i82 retainers on quick ventures in order to get the new dyes. Though Normally I hover around 70-80+ ventures in my inventory, moreso when I get a chunk from maps.
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10-15-2014, 08:30 PMAleczan
I don't have problem with them slacking off. I only have problem when both my Botanist retainer and Miner retainer brought back a fish, one each.
A FISH.
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10-15-2014, 08:34 PMSynestr
1 F I S H > . <
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10-15-2014, 08:38 PMBobbinTlol I already knew that comic for a long time. Unfortunately if you check the comic carefully, they're for quick ventures. The 18 hours won't give u that crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fyce
Yes, I forgot to mention that in 1st post. That being said, the chance getting venture coins from that also slim too. I always do daily maps and it's like 1 out of 100 getting those coins. Maybe even more... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ecks007
And no, this is not about how easy to get those, because it is also way easier to earn more ores for capped levels. Different case if you were lower levels. But... retainer level can only go as high as our main. So yeah, in term of investment, venture coins are more expensive, though it won't cost you arm and legs. lol -
10-16-2014, 12:42 AMNandalowellI get that crap all the time from 18 hour ventures. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbinT
(Guess it's probably because I can only get my retainers ilevel to 70 right now..) -
10-16-2014, 01:37 AMNyarukoW
What would you do for 1 or 2 venture coins?
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10-16-2014, 01:59 AMSartoriDo quick exploration. I"ve gotten 4 pots of the new dyes and a Craftsman Command IV. They made me around 750k in the last few daysQuote:
Originally Posted by BobbinT
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10-16-2014, 03:01 AMBobbinTYou're just very lucky my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sartori
When Ixali beast dailies released, I got over-abundance of coins again and start doing alot of quick ventures again. Lo and behold, more fish craps coming my way again. lol
After capped that beast rank, I stopped doing this and go back doing 18 hours again.
That's besides the point tho. This thread is more about the 18 hour ventures, not about the quick ventures, hence why I put "lazy" on my title. I don't mind quick ventures since it's 1 hour only task (albeit bringing me crap most of time). But here, I'm talking about the effort retainers give on 18 hour task which can be accomplished in just 1 hour (or even less) when I do it myself. -
10-16-2014, 03:04 AMWarlyx
all i get is furniture and fish/clams....lol
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10-16-2014, 03:11 AMDoki
The need to remove house roof, door, window, and fish drops from 18 hour ventures entirely. It's just dumb. At most you make/buy a couple of each once or twice for the entire life of your FC/personal house. There is zero demand for these items, they just get vendored for next to nothing at NPCs. I think I'd almost rather the retainer say "Sorry, didn't find anything... should I go back out again?"
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10-16-2014, 03:21 AMNyarukoWYou can desynth malm kelp if you want, or any of those housing items if they are not worth selling on the MB. It is an alternative to vendoring. So something is better than nothing, Get some desynth points if you must instead of 1 or 2 gil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doki
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10-16-2014, 03:43 AMKerii
I got a Kingly Whisker from mine the other week and they don't even have good gear. xD I think you just have to keep sending them out and hope for the best.
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10-16-2014, 03:54 AMhallena
Probably for the same reason you are too lazy to type "Are"
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10-16-2014, 05:14 AMSaseal
One of my retainers pretty much furnished my FC's entire house (with exception to one or two things) and my private room.
I'm convinced he just goes out, steals from some other FC's house and brings it back - then acts like he's hot shit (doesn't help that that's the personality I gave him).
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10-16-2014, 03:11 PMSynestrI see your point, however I don't think it could take any less time to move the roof my retainer "found" in Mist back to The Goblet, she doesn't even have her choco license.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doki
I agree though at times the "gifts" we get are like wtf. But at times...rather nice. I got a seating module yesterday, I had forgotten to send my other retainer out. Maybe that's the key, one at a time...lol