Point Allotment per class?!

When are we getting this? It's so irritating not being able to put my mage classes to good use because all my stats are in melee. It's been in discussion for a long time I'm just wondering when will it be? 1.19?

I never really understood what was the point of having this in the first place when the devs knew we would be leveling up multiple classes. But whatever, as usual we are always placed with more cumbersome nonsense instead of going with an intuitive route.

assumed to be 1.19 whenever that may be.

1.19 they just said they'd abolish phys level , ranks become levels, and you will receive points for point allotment every time you level up on a DoW/DoM/DoL/DoH. As I currently have read, there are no plans to let you create separate builds for every class.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

1.19 they just said they'd abolish phys level , ranks become levels, and you will receive points for point allotment every time you level up on a DoW/DoM/DoL/DoH. As I currently have read, there are no plans to let you create separate builds for every class.

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Sounds nice if this is what they're doing. Makes me feel more like I'm playing with one character that I can slowly build rather than changing the stats within my character all the time. It also sounds more like XI skill-points of which I'm a big fan of.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

1.19 they just said they'd abolish phys level , ranks become levels, and you will receive points for point allotment every time you level up on a DoW/DoM/DoL/DoH. As I currently have read, there are no plans to let you create separate builds for every class.

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This doesn't make sense. If this were true, then anyone who gets 3 or more classes to lv50 will become a God. It's going to be point allotment on a per-class basis.

Example:

- Your LNC is lvl 20, your CON is lvl 46
- You switch to LNC and have 50 pts you can allot into any stats you choose, you lvl up to 21 and gain another 2 pts to distribute
- You decide to switch to your CON for a while, you have 300 pts you can allot into any stats you choose, you lvl up to 47 and gain another 6 pts to distribute
- Both classes save the configurations separately, and have the option of reassigning the stats within a given time period (like now) except that reassign applies only to the class you are presently playing on

That's it. It allows for one character to play multiple classes effectively (as was intended) whilst preventing players who lvl multiple classes from amassing 1000+ pts to use and become a superpower with 174 in everything. This way it ensures that all players on a lvl 50 class have the same (350 for example) number of points to distribute, so no one gets an unfair advantage.

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Originally Posted by Archadius

This doesn't make sense. If this were true, then anyone who gets 3 or more classes to lv50 will become a God. It's going to be point allotment on a per-class basis.

Example:

- Your LNC is lvl 20, your CON is lvl 46
- You switch to LNC and have 50 pts you can allot into any stats you choose, you lvl up to 21 and gain another 2 pts to distribute
- You decide to switch to your CON for a while, you have 300 pts you can allot into any stats you choose, you lvl up to 47 and gain another 6 pts to distribute
- Both classes save the configurations separately, and have the option of reassigning the stats within a given time period (like now) except that reassign applies only to the class you are presently playing on

That's it. It allows for one character to play multiple classes effectively (as was intended) whilst preventing players who lvl multiple classes from amassing 1000+ pts to use and become a superpower with 174 in everything. This way it ensures that all players on a lvl 50 class have the same (350 for example) number of points to distribute, so no one gets an unfair advantage.

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I hope it's out by 1.19 and it's exactly like you stated.

i do believe it will be 1.19 which will come out right after 1.18x

they should just make it fixed stats, and use the ablitys you can buy from guilds to adjust the stats..

I'm betting money when they remove physical level more people are going to whine about the game being too hard since you wont have lv50 stats all the time.

You never always had level 50 stats anyway. They always got capped based on your rank.

Each stat will have a more profound effect on what they cover, so putting on gear that gives you STR + 6 will actually make a noticeable change in damage output.

Each rank getting separate builds, with their own amount of attribute points based on their ranks is the way to go. Offers customization while removing the need to commit to certain classes.

I wish they'd do the same with action bars. Switching from ARC to CON is a nightmare. 3 action bar macros which are slow as hell, a gear change macro which is slow and the point reassignment crap which is being fixed.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

You never always had level 50 stats anyway. They always got capped based on your rank.

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Even so, as it currently is I will outclass any Player with a physical level near their class level due to me being capped on everything where they may be lingering somewhere between, the caps were never displayed so how "High" those caps are is in the air. But even as a lvl 25 lancer I out-damage a lower physical leveled lancer 2-3 levels higher than me with superior gear.

1.19 can't come soon enough, I can't wait to be able to spec by class.

I didn't say what I said what true, its just based on what the devs have said they have only said you would get points per rank you level up for sure, and they've been vague about all else, they asked if we'd like a point allotment system based on the classes rank we're currently on, and people I believe voted for that one, so let's hope they do it.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

1.19 they just said they'd abolish phys level , ranks become levels, and you will receive points for point allotment every time you level up on a DoW/DoM/DoL/DoH. As I currently have read, there are no plans to let you create separate builds for every class.

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If they did it this way, it would be the same thing just dressed up differently. You'd basically have the same problem as before.

And the method the players voted for was:

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Removal of physical levels, and the addition of class-specific allotment of attribute points for each class based on rank.

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Note the "class-specific" part.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Each rank getting separate builds, with their own amount of attribute points based on their ranks is the way to go. Offers customization while removing the need to commit to certain classes.

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That's the problem with the world... no one is willing to "commit" to anything

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That's the problem with the world... no one is willing to "commit" to anything

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In case you didn't realize this before: "commiting" is out. People want to switch classes and jobs at the press of a button, be it during a battle or dungeon run. They want to be able to paradign-shift from Warrior to Mage to Tank within seconds. They don't want to play a role for longer than needed; they want to be able to adapt to every situation, and they are willing to gladly sacrifice their character's unique character for it. They want to customize. And be able to de-customize at the first sight of problems with their build.

In short, they want the illusion that their decisions really matter, but ultimately want them to be inconsequential.

if it comes to this, that its different for each class with point allotment, i hope they can add some points for leveling other classes to .. lets say 5 points for every 10 levels in a class? thats 25 points extra for every maximized class, its aint thatr much, but it is a nice bonus for all your hard work :)

I never recall reading of them saying 1.19 was gonna bring this. Can someone link me to said comment or quote it?

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Originally Posted by indira

they should just make it fixed stats, and use the ablitys you can buy from guilds to adjust the stats..

I'm betting money when they remove physical level more people are going to whine about the game being too hard since you wont have lv50 stats all the time.

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Dear God no. If they do it that way, then Conjurers will be in their 'rightful boot-licking place' with below 50 VIT. Having the ability to distribute points the way one likes is the way to go, it allows for the person to be either Solo-centric or party-centric whenever they like while still being at the mercy of a reset timer,.

It also avoids the inevitable "required gear set" elitist bullcrap that plagued XI. And no one wants that. Seriously. Except maybe you of course.

Either way, giving people the illusion of choice is better than cookie-cutter classes. I know I'd rather be obstinate and have 100 points in VIT (or whatever they'll scale it down to) than to have a pre-determined amount set every level for me.

They need to just get rid of stat allotment period.

There is no "point" to it. Lol.

Just make stats based on your level and job. It's too annoying to re-allot your points to optimally from fighting different mobs much less for jobs.

When people say they want more "customization" what they really mean is they just want to be bad. With how "casual" this game is right now it would probably be for the better.