Summoner Damage Calculator

Thought it's about time I, BLM Master Race, help out you SMN peasants. :cool:

There's just way too much SMN QQ'ing here in the forum IMO.

Hopefully this will help ease the pain just a little...

Last Update: 11/5/2014

Clicky Here for Puro Strider's Sexy SMN Damage Calculator

Latest Calculator version = v3.0


Other Resources:
1. Main Reddit Thread
2. The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator


Cheers.

So jealous

Edit: Problem solved.

/slap Dwill

Now give me some sugar.

Excellent work.

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Originally Posted by PuroStrider

/slap Dwill

Now give me some sugar.

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I blame lack of sleep. So I'm going to keep that sugar because I'll need it.

Thank you! :D

Awesome work and thank you.

Any plans to do sub sections for pet damage?

Sweet, thank you!

Good work. Thanks.

Awesome job dude :)

Newest version is v1.3

-Changed layout a bit with little extra stuff here and there.

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@Judge_Xero - No specific plan as of now, but I'll keep adding on to it whenever I'm free or feel like it. ^^

Cheers.

Updated to v2.0

Added DPS row and other stuff

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I compared DPS numbers to my runs and it's pretty damn accurate.

This updated v2.0 calculator will also allow you to see the effect of Spell Speed on SMN more clearly.

Gonna need to do some theorycrafting on pets (mainly crit table and toon stat's effect on pet's damage)

I did a bit of searching while working on this calc update at work but couldn't really find anything useful.

Let me know if you have other SMN theorycrafting sources for me to look at.

Enjoy the new calc in the mean time.

Can you explain that "mp investment = X potency"? Most of those numbers are kinda confusing like miasma 2 jump from 0.4 to 1.1 with contagion? And why that shadow flare option is increased by contagion since that ability can not even work with it.

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Originally Posted by Sunako

Can you explain that "mp investment = X potency"? Most of those numbers are kinda confusing like miasma 2 jump from 0.4 to 1.1 with contagion? And why that shadow flare option is increased by contagion since that ability can not even work with it.

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That box had some errors. Thanks for pointing that out.

It basically means how much damage/potency are you getting out of 1 MP for that spell.

I just finished some testing on pet and crit, so I'll be completing all the DPS that are missing in the next couple days.

Just Garuda-Egi for now though.

SMN peasants????? Wait WHAT???? O_o????..... We are the only DPS class that has the access to Ressurrection. WE CONTROL LIVES. We SUMMON Primals. We are GODS!!!

Have yet tried it but here is my thanks :)

I bow to our king.

On-topic I do have a small question related to opening rotations as a SMN,
Standard Tank & Spank Fight no adds, No mana saving etc.
Currently my opening rotation is like this but I wonder if I'm missing something for extra dps:

Raging strikes -> Bio2->Miasma->Bio->off-gcd:Contagation->Fester(to get cd rolling)->RuinII->off-gcd:Swiftcast->Shadowflare->RuinII->off-gcd:Spur->RuinII->off-gcd:Rouse->RuinII->off-gcd:Energy Drain->RuinII->off-gcd:Fester->Aetherflow // enkindle before buffs run out on garuda

- I use 1 energy drain during my opening rotation(Raging Strikes) so I can recast Aetherflow asap.
- I generally do not use miasma2 on opening rotations because I cannot get behind the boss asap while pulling and I might lose extra seconds on my dots. This would most likely be a dps increase. During swiftcast shadowflare there is enough time to move so I could consider using contagation a bit later to include miasma2.
- I've been wondering about using 2 Off-gcd's in that rotation to increase the dps my pet does, but it would depend on whether that 1 extra ruinII would benefit more from RS than my pet which doesn't get anything.

What I am looking for?
- A potion opening rotation
- Answers on the energy drain & miasma2 questions
- Help & tips are always appreciated regardless of the nature, everything will be considered!

Thanks in advance

Ps; tired as fuck, rotation might not be 100% correct

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Nah, don't use energy drain in your opening rotation. Only use it if you need the Mana later on(which you more than likely will in coil fights) or if you need to burst down something quick.

My opening rotation is like this :

Raging Strikes > X-INT pot > Bio 2 > Miasma(Start moving towards boss as casts about to finish) > Bio > Rouse > Fester > Miasma 2 > Contagion+Swiftcast > Shadowflare > Spurr > Ruin 2 > Enkindle > Ruin 2 > Fester > Ruin 1 till fester is back up > Ruin 2 > Fester > Ruin 2 > Aetherflow

Version 3.0 is up!

Added Pet Damage and Fey Glow to the mix.

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The only thing left to add is Stat Weight, but that would have to be another day.

Questions, comments, suggestions and other inputs are highly encouraged.

I'm gonna go crash in the mean time.

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by PuroStrider

Questions, comments, suggestions and other inputs are highly encouraged.

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Cleaning up the document, transferring the data field you used to a secondary page.

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

Raging Strikes > X-INT pot > Bio 2 > Miasma(Start moving towards boss as casts about to finish) > Bio > Rouse > Fester > Miasma 2 > Contagion+Swiftcast > Shadowflare > Spurr > Ruin 2 > Enkindle > Ruin 2 > Fester > Ruin 1 till fester is back up > Ruin 2 > Fester > Ruin 2 > Aetherflow

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Thanks it does indeed work better than the one that I am currently using =)

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Originally Posted by PuroStrider

Version 3.0 is up!

Added Pet Damage and Fey Glow to the mix.

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The only thing left to add is Stat Weight, but that would have to be another day.

Questions, comments, suggestions and other inputs are highly encouraged.

I'm gonna go crash in the mean time.

Enjoy!

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Be prepared for a world of disappointment when you see the difference in Spell Speed value between Black Mage and Summoner!

Edit: Spur will also make the pet take a snapshot of your stats, you might want to add that to your pet damage part.

Not sure what you meant by Spur taking snapshot part. From my understanding, Spur just adds 40% damage to whatever the pet's attack. Enkindle's potency is right around 225 from all the testing.

Spur changes the pet's stats to reflect your current gear. Same as zone transitioning

So say you stacked vit and summoned titan then changed to dps gear his HP would still be inflated. But when you use spur his stats will adjust to your current much lower Vit stats.

So using Spur is like re-summoning it with 20 sec of 40% dmg buff.

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Originally Posted by PuroStrider

So using Spur is like re-summoning it with 20 sec of 40% dmg buff.

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That's half-true (unless I'm not understanding correctly). After the 20 sec, the pet keeps the snapshots from Spur, it won't revert back to what you first summoned it with.

Since Spur takes into account Physical and Magical attack power, it needs to snapshot what these two values are in case they changed over the encounter. An easy way to see it is, is like Madoka suggested, just summon Titan using a full Vitality set, switch back to your actual DPS gear then use Spur. You'll see his max HP take a huge drop. It works the same way with Int, Accuracy, P&M attack power, etc.

Edit: If you need to test in a combat situation, it's quite easy to test as well. Go to a dummy, get naked then summon any Egi, put back your DPS gear then send the Egi on the dummy via Obey. Note the numbers after the Egi whacks at it a few times. Then use Spur and see those numbers rise up drastically.

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Originally Posted by PuroStrider

So using Spur is like re-summoning it with 20 sec of 40% dmg buff.

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Exactly.
Which makes me think that having a gear set with capped pet accuracy and crazy amounts of Crit for just Summoning your Pet may someday be a "thing" as long as you don't use Spur. Spur only seems to be a 7% increase to Pet Damage anyways, so maybe worth not using.

Then swap to your real SMN gear set with the lower accuracy cap and more damage stats.

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Originally Posted by PuroStrider

Enkindle's potency is right around 225 from all the testing.

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The Pets section of the Actions menu shows the potencies. Aerial Blast is 250, Inferno is 200 + 20x5 (DoT), and Earthen Fury is 200 + Razed Earth (20x5? Isn't specified, but the damage is around that mark).