Stop posting grammar errors on the dev tracker.

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That was retarded.

I for one see it as a good sign. It means people are running out of legitimate stuff to bitch about.

Grammar corrections aren't bitching.
"I want this, that, and I want it NOW!", "This dungeon is BS, change it!" <<< Bitching.

I think it's nice that the devs take note of these mistakes and make changes quickly. It's called being a professional, and I for one, appreciate what they do.

The point is more that responses end up appearing in the list on the forum top page, which means that if there are a lot of them, Bayohne and Rukkirii get bumped off rather quickly => unhelpful to people hunting for news.

^ this exactly. people who want to see what the hell Yoshi-P intends to do with this heap may be discouraged because from the looks of the top page, the only correspondence we are getting from the dev team are about grammar corrections.

When Yoshi-P posts stuff (and anything else that's REALLY important) it jumps in your face on the Lodestone main page.

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When Yoshi-P posts stuff (and anything else that's REALLY important) it jumps in your face on the Lodestone main page.

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Correct, but our delightful reps will, from time to time (I'd say once every few days), drop a translation from comments made on the Japanese forums, or even hunt some info down for us themselves and give a response. Such information provides ancillary views on how the game is progressing - fine details that are too much for Yoshi-P to write.

A simple change of the trigger levels giving the localisation team members accounts more like the mods such as Baccanale would alleviate the issue while still making it clear they are staff.

Learn how to use the Dev Tracker.

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Viridiana, I don't think your links work on other people's browsers.

I agree removing posts that are only replies about fixes would be best (or make a different tracker... or allow customization for what shows in the Tracker).

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Viridiana, I don't think your links work on other people's browsers.

I agree removing posts that are only replies about fixes would be best (or make a different tracker... or allow customization for what shows in the Tracker).

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Hmm. . . I don't see why they wouldn't. Well, here's the steps to reproduce them on your own computer, then.

1. Click near the top of the page where it says "English Forums"
2. Scroll down to where it says "Community."
3. Next to "Communtiy" is a "Dev Tracker" button. Press it.
4. You're now looking at all General Discussion dev posts.

Same steps for the other one, but replace "Community" with "Gameplay."

Well, i like Ferne posts...they're much more interesting than most of Bay ones...so long life to localization posts at dev tracker! ^^

Fern is a cool dude, i imagine him to be the classy dev member who sips a fine whine and says F*ck yea grammer! and will occasionally retort, Boohya anecdotal colloquialism in your face!

Hello all.

This is a topic which we had already discussed amongst ourselves at length since the inception of the Localization forum. After having read through your opinions, I can say that we genuinely appreciate both sides of the argument, but have decided it in the best interests of the forums for Localization posts to no longer appear in the dev tracker. Though our posts do, from time to time, contain information which may interest many players, the fact remains that the vast majority are text bug fixes, and we recognize that this simply isn't informative or useful reading for the vast majority.

That being said, we already spoke to a representative from the Community & Service team last week, and he has informed us that he should be able to make the necessary change to our accounts in the very near future. I apologize on behalf of the team for any inconvenience, and ask that you bear with us just a bit longer until we are able to remedy the situation.

Thank you.

Well, can we at least keep the option to have them show up?

Lame, now I have to go through each thread to find you guys' posts now. Sad day.

Thanks ! This had killed my interest in devtrackers, I'll look the page more often now.

An option to hide/show localization dev threads would be nice though.

I support this, but if you happen to reveal any good details could you have them link to your original post for the dev tracker?

Or give you a button you can hit to make your post show on dev tracker if you decide it's worthy or not.

I had been thinking this same thing for a while. It made watching the dev tracker a little difficult. Localization posts tend to be a bit more 'cut and dried' in their responses, because generally there is either an error, or the current implementation is intended. It's great to see so many responses from the localization team, though, as that means they are really working hard to make sure that things like story and tooltips are accurate and interesting. =)

It's especially hard though because Eemeefu and Rukkirii have the same avatar. I think they should give Rukkirii a ribbon, or maybe better yet give Eemeefu a top hat! =D

Edit: Alternatively, they could have a sticky at the top of the localization forums that links to all of their responses, for those who enjoy reading them or checking if a particular bug has been responded to already.

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Well, can we at least keep the option to have them show up?

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I second this. A profile setting to show what is displayed on the dev tracker would be nice.

How silly, I think they should stay or at least be optional to view!

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Lame, now I have to go through each thread to find you guys' posts now. Sad day.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...st&showposts=1

This is what I'll be using.

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Originally Posted by Eemeefu

Hello all.

This is a topic which we had already discussed amongst ourselves at length since the inception of the Localization forum. After having read through your opinions, I can say that we genuinely appreciate both sides of the argument, but have decided it in the best interests of the forums for Localization posts to no longer appear in the dev tracker. Though our posts do, from time to time, contain information which may interest many players, the fact remains that the vast majority are text bug fixes, and we recognize that this simply isn't informative or useful reading for the vast majority.

That being said, we already spoke to a representative from the Community & Service team last week, and he has informed us that he should be able to make the necessary change to our accounts in the very near future. I apologize on behalf of the team for any inconvenience, and ask that you bear with us just a bit longer until we are able to remedy the situation.

Thank you.

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That's sad indeed. I always liked reading you guys replies...after all the quality of content mixed with the text bugs is just as good as any other dev team posts...Hopefully they can just add a filter for this...we don't have many people at dev tracker anyway so they could just allow players to have an individual checkbox for each dev team member...this way those who don't like it can just uncheck Eemeefu and Fernehalwes.

Personally I'd still like to read the comments from the localization team, as the way they respond to bugs, when it's more than just 'Thanks. Got it. Fixed in [patch].', they're pretty entertaining.

Will we still be able to view the localization team's posts through the Localization subforum dev tracker?

I love the responses and even learned a thing or two. :rolleyes:
Why not make it optional? :(
I think the OP made some opo-opos cry!

I think perhaps this indicates that we need a more effective interface for tracking and finding dev posts.

Perhaps an Advanced Dev Tracker with more options for filtering and searching dev posts would be an adequate solution?

If you absolutely must remove them from the dev tracker because people can't be bothered to filter it, can you at least leave the little crown icon on the threads that have been responded to? It'd be nice to know which ones have actually been responded to versus discussed among the community.

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If you absolutely must remove them from the dev tracker because people can't be bothered to filter it, can you at least leave the little crown icon on the threads that have been responded to? It'd be nice to know which ones have actually been responded to versus discussed among the community.

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^ This.
Please give us the crowns back, or put it back the way it was entirely. It's just annoying to have to click all the threads to see what has been replied or not. Looking at the forum page too, it looks like none of them got replies! :(
Made me sad when I clicked and thought the whole "actually replying to people's threads" thing was over.

Well, it was a shame IMO. Once again SE actually picked the worst option from all possibles. Why not just adding a filter or something? Now all that actually liked the localization team need to check here manually just because a few bumbasses decided complaining about them being in the dev tracker.

The easier way is never the best one...to please a few people now all those who followed localization posts will be punished. :/

EDIT: Just noticed it was my post No.1000! /o/ So you guys can rejoice with another troll with over 1k posts lol! /dance /pose /joy

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Originally Posted by Lienn

Well, it was a shame IMO. Once again SE actually picked the worst option from all possibles. Why not just adding a filter or something? Now all that actually liked the localization team need to check here manually just because a few bumbasses decided complaining about them being in the dev tracker.

The easier way is never the best one...to please a few people now all those who followed localization posts will be punished. :/

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There was a filter. People were just too lazy to use it. . .