Auto Attack too slow, speed it up a little

Most of the time I spend the time staring at the screen and was wondering if Auto Attack is taking place because it is so slow. I also join Marauder with 2 handed and it take them a long time just 1 hit. It would be nice to speed it up just a little. The slow attack is making the battle really boring and watching paint dry. :eek:

You're still doing nothing ,so this suggestion is kind of backwards.

How about they lower the recast of basic skills and perhaps make you get more tp instead? Or introduce more mechanics that will occupy you.

Get more DoW ranks before you start posting nonsense like this. Character animations cannot keep up with the constant attacking of mid to high level DoWs. Auto-attack speed is fine and TP generation is probably excessive if anything.

Also, ways to reduce delay and gain multiple attacks per round are coming.

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Originally Posted by Frein

Get more DoW ranks before you start posting nonsense like this. Character animations cannot keep up with the constant attacking of mid to high level DoWs. Auto-attack speed is fine and TP generation is probably excessive if anything.

Also, ways to reduce delay and gain multiple attacks per round are coming.

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None sense? Just because you don't think it okay with you doesn't mean you speak for everybody and it's ok. FYI I start this game since Collector Edition, and I always have a static of 5 people party. I have 46 Conjurer, 50 Gladiator, and now starting a Marauder. I been playing this game quite a bit and I know from a good battle system from a bad one.

Maybe you need to play more instead of criticizing because you're not very good at it. And I said LITTLE not speed it up so much that it broke the game.

I can agree that PGL does seem excessively slow for a class that I would expect to have the lowest attack delay even if the damage for auto-attack is reduced even further. MRD delay can be justified by giving them a bigger damage and enmity boost I think. I wouldn't expect someone to swing around a big axe over and over like it weighs nothing.

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

None sense? Just because you don't think it okay with you doesn't mean you speak for everybody and it's ok. FYI I start this game since Collector Edition, and I always have a static of 5 people party. I have 46 Conjurer, 50 Gladiator, and now starting a Marauder. I been playing this game quite a bit and I know from a good battle system from a bad one.

Maybe you need to play more instead of criticizing because you're not very good at it. And I said LITTLE not speed it up so much that it broke the game.

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You didn't even present a counter-argument (only an ad-hominem). The character animations literally cannot keep up with the rate of attacks coming from auto-attack, TP builders and TP moves. Don't you have Invigorate or are you just never satisfied?

The exception to this could be extremely high level or defense monsters that take less damage and therefore awards less TP, but you should already be drowning in TP during fights against most monsters.

Don't pay any attention to Frien, looks like he must of escaped his basement cage.

Most of us do understand the pain currently, Darkrose. I don't mind a slower paced battle but I do think 4 second swing time on mrd is a bit too much. Just shaving off 1 second would make a huge difference.

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Originally Posted by Chain

Don't pay any attention to Frien, looks like he must of escaped his basement cage.

Most of us do understand the pain currently, Darkrose. I don't mind a slower paced battle but I do think 4 second swing time on mrd is a bit too much. Just shaving off 1 second would make a huge difference.

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Again, no counter-argument. You have no credibility if you don't have a counter-argument. In stead of attacking my argument, you attack me. This is called an argumentum ad hominem and it is a logical fallacy.

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Originally Posted by Frein

Get more DoW ranks before you start posting nonsense like this..

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Originally Posted by Frein

Again, no counter-argument. You have no credibility if you don't have a counter-argument. In stead of attacking my argument, you attack me. This is called an argumentum ad hominem and it is a logical fallacy.

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That's an excellent way of describing your earlier post isnt it?
If you have nothing to post other then to piss people off, id like to ask you to do it elsewhere frein.

More on topic:
From my limited experience with DoW lately i must say that it does feel rather slow.
TP generation abilities help a bit, but not so much on the classes that tend to use 2-3k skills (because they are more damage effecient).

I'm not at very high ranks with my DoW however, so i cant comment on how its balanced at mid to high ranks.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

That's an excellent way of describing your earlier post isnt it?
If you have nothing to post other then to piss people off, id like to ask you to do it elsewhere frein.

More on topic:
From my limited experience with DoW lately i must say that it does feel rather slow.
TP generation abilities help a bit, but not so much on the classes that tend to use 2-3k skills (because they are more damage effecient).

I'm not at very high ranks with my DoW however, so i cant comment on how its balanced at mid to high ranks.

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I guess you missed this part:

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Character animations cannot keep up with the constant attacking of mid to high level DoWs.

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Perhaps my tone was unnecessarily blunt, but it tires me to see people constantly make suggestions or complaints they can't actually back up with any kind of reasoning other than roughly the following: "I haven't really tried to do anything about but it feels slow"

I'm guessing future changes to the BR system are going to shift the focus away from spamming abilities as fast as possible towards a more timing based battle style (like FFXI's skillchains). Right now it's often quite easy to pump out back to back TP moves almost as fast as the animation cancels allow.

I think the current speed is ok the way it is, but well i don't play the game for too long and i only tried 1 meele class wich is lnc, just saying that with pierce, heavy thrust and full thrust and normal auto attack and tp moves, i'm never standing still waiting

I think it's fine for now. I think we need to wait until they are done with the classes adjustments to complain about the AA speed/delay. There will be weapons with faster delays and spells like haste and probably abilities to speed up your attack speed.

So just wait. If they put it too fast now, it would be just silly fast when they add speed/haste buffs.

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Originally Posted by Frein

Get more DoW ranks before you start posting nonsense like this. Character animations cannot keep up with the constant attacking of mid to high level DoWs. Auto-attack speed is fine and TP generation is probably excessive if anything.

Also, ways to reduce delay and gain multiple attacks per round are coming.

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oh you mean like they didn't before. oh wait..... yes, they did. the animations now show just as well as they did before. to say something can't be done that has already been proven in this very game is absolutely false.

Increase auto attack speed
Decrease cooldown of basic attacks (60 seconds? really?)
Decrease tp gains from auto attack after increasing attack speed.

I knew before they added auto attack that delays were going to be similar to FFXI, even tho they tried to say it will be faster. 2.4s for a 1-h dagger is pretty damn slow, and 4s for an axe is equally very slow. I was thinking more like 1.4 seconds for 1-h dagger, 1.7s for a 1-h sword, 2.8-3s for an axe, 2s for hand-hand, and 2.6-2-8s for a spear. Delays can also be modified by the quality or rarity of the weapon.

And the stupidly high recast for the basic skills have made it take longer to get Battle Regimen's initiated.

1.18 Basic auto-attack functionality. 1.19 tweaks and adjustments.

I like the speed at what it is, the only real time I see any slow down is during boss fights where ability use is controlled and TP is gained slower due to less hits/dmg. I'm not attacking your opinion but perhaps if you could find other ways of occupying time between delays like using other abilities to increase your performance like Blindside, Invigorate, Bloodbath, Guild Mark attacks (Heavy Stab, Heavy Shot, Pummel etc), those kinds of things, it wouldn't feel as slow?

I feel like I'm constantly preparing for my next swing with the new battle system so I find it hard to relate.

So I have also noticed the slightly slower pace of the auto-attack. At the same time I also think that the current pace is fine currently. What would help is a small bar indicating when the next auto-attack will take place. This should have a small psychological effect reducing anxiety from the wait.

IMO AA speed is good...its just the same crap it was at FFXI...but no problem...but IMO the way the other basic attacks were adjusted is the real flaw of this new battle system...when i first read about AA and saw that movie i thought "That's interesting...its slow so players can alternate the other basic attacks between AA triggers"...shame on me...it wasn't even close to what they had in mind.

I still hope the basic actions recast is just a placeholder and that they will adjust it soon...this would fix most of the speed problems of the current battle system.