Anybody try out FFXIV on Windows 10

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10-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Brianmj

Anybody try out FFXIV on Windows 10

I've already downloaded the ISO, but haven't made a bootable disk yet. Anyone try it out yet? Does ffxiv work well with virtual desktops (this is what I really want to know)? Can sound be heard from processes running on the other desktop?
10-02-2014, 12:37 PM
Marael

Considering that Windows 8.1 is the most recent version of windows... I think you'd better delete that ISO immediately, because, you know, there's no such thing as Windows 10 as of yet, and it's probably some sort of virus that will F your computer up hardcore.
10-02-2014, 12:40 PM
Brianmj

Windows 10 is the successor to Windows 8.1. Microsoft just released a technical preview of it today. It's in beta, yes:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview
10-02-2014, 12:49 PM
Squa11_Leonhart

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marael

Considering that Windows 8.1 is the most recent version of windows... I think you'd better delete that ISO immediately, because, you know, there's no such thing as Windows 10 as of yet, and it's probably some sort of virus that will F your computer up hardcore.

Its best to google before putting your foot in your mouth.
10-02-2014, 12:57 PM
Meier

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Originally Posted by Marael

Considering that Windows 8.1 is the most recent version of windows... I think you'd better delete that ISO immediately, because, you know, there's no such thing as Windows 10 as of yet, and it's probably some sort of virus that will F your computer up hardcore.

LOL are you serious? Not sure if troll, if so, 10/10.

Edit: OP - How do you plan to run FFXIV on a technical preview of windows 10, it doesn't have any graphical drivers or anything, not a really..good...idea.
10-02-2014, 01:13 PM
Brianmj

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Originally Posted by Meier

LOL are you serious? Not sure if troll, if so, 10/10.

Edit: OP - How do you plan to run FFXIV on a technical preview of windows 10, it doesn't have any graphical drivers or anything, not a really..good...idea.

About the graphical drivers, I'm hoping that Windows 10 uses the Windows 8 driver system. When Win8 was previewed you could use Windows 7 drivers and everything worked out fine. But I don' t know - it was just released today. There isn't much info on it and it's try at your own risk. I don't mind trying myself - I have a spare pc to try it on. Just got to prepare a usb.
10-02-2014, 01:16 PM
Yoninxi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marael

Considering that Windows 8.1 is the most recent version of windows... I think you'd better delete that ISO immediately, because, you know, there's no such thing as Windows 10 as of yet, and it's probably some sort of virus that will F your computer up hardcore.

Post of the year
10-02-2014, 01:34 PM
Ruri

Where did 9 go?
10-02-2014, 01:37 PM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

Xbox 360 to Xbox one. Windows 8 to Windows 10

Microsoft has found the good stuff and is not passing it in the circle.

As per topic.. even if it works, I wouldn't recommend using a beta OS to play a game unless you are prepared for the OS to decide when you are done playing :P.
10-02-2014, 01:38 PM
Yoninxi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

Seven eight it
10-02-2014, 01:43 PM
Omegakiyohime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

There are lots of rumours/statements about it. My particular favorite is that a lot of older code in programs wasn't future proofed well enough and just defaults Windows 9* to 95 or 98 since the naming scheme at the point seemed to point toward a year of publishing rather than a product number. We will probably never know.
10-02-2014, 01:46 PM
Squa11_Leonhart

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

well we have Vista which was NT6
Then we have 7 which was NT6.1 and the seventh OS on the NT kernel.
then we have 8 which is NT6.2 and the eight OS on the NT kernel.
Then 8.1 which was NT6.3 and the ninth OS on the NT kernel..

Now we have 10, which is 6.4 and the 10th OS on the NT kernel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime

There are lots of rumours/statements about it. My particular favorite is that a lot of older code in programs wasn't future proofed well enough and just defaults Windows 9* to 95 or 98 since the naming scheme at the point seemed to point toward a year of publishing rather than a product number. We will probably never know.

You don't determine the windows version on the name string, you do so on the version string - also windows XP and up can fake the name and version strings
10-02-2014, 01:59 PM
Limecat

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

MS probably skipped the number because they're afraid it'd be associated too closely with Windows 8 and thus be avoided.
10-02-2014, 02:03 PM
Kerii

I haven't played for an extended amount of time, but it seemed to be working just fine for the ten or fifteen minutes I was on earlier. Wouldn't recommend trying the 14.9 beta stuff if you've got a recent AMD card though.
10-02-2014, 02:17 PM
Brianmj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime

There are lots of rumours/statements about it. My particular favorite is that a lot of older code in programs wasn't future proofed well enough and just defaults Windows 9* to 95 or 98 since the naming scheme at the point seemed to point toward a year of publishing rather than a product number. We will probably never know.

For the curious: http://techreport.com/news/27144/thi...lled-windows-9
10-02-2014, 02:18 PM
Zileth

Win10 will have many issues atm with games since they are updated for only 8.1.

Now there will be some games that wont have any issues or just a small enough that you wont notice tho since they do tend to add small patches that gives the game basic support for a new update
10-02-2014, 02:44 PM
Coatl

They knew windows 9 would be bad so they just skipped it entirely.
10-02-2014, 02:55 PM
Brianmj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zileth

Win10 will have many issues atm with games since they are updated for only 8.1.

Now there will be some games that wont have any issues or just a small enough that you wont notice tho since they do tend to add small patches that gives the game basic support for a new update

Yes, issues are to be expected. This is a very early alpha preview of the OS and is intended for PC enthusiasts and IT as stated by Microsoft. Square Enix will not provide support to anyone running Windows 10.
10-02-2014, 03:40 PM
Alistaire

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

It's the german word for "no".

So I asked my german wife how many kids she wanted, she said nein!
10-02-2014, 03:41 PM
Ruri

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianmj

For the curious: http://techreport.com/news/27144/thi...lled-windows-9

Thanks that answers that :)
10-02-2014, 03:42 PM
Ruri

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alistaire

It's the german word for "no".

So I asked my german wife how many kids she wanted, she said nein!

Ohhh that makes sense
10-02-2014, 03:47 PM
Alistaire

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Ohhh that makes sense

Yeah companies sometimes do consider things like that, I remember hearing Chevy Nova sold terrible in Spanish speaking places...something about "no va" means "doesn't go".
10-02-2014, 03:55 PM
Ladon

It works (the core kernel is still pretty much Win8.1 so 8.1 drivers all work well). It also functions in virtual desktops but doing some heavy processing in the main window might degrade performance of FF14 in a virtual desktop to the point that sound might start skipping. This depends on your systems overall performance of course. But the reason for this is applications in virtual desktops get dropped to a new 'lowest' processor scheduling priority.
10-02-2014, 04:03 PM
Lemuria

As long as they get rid of that Fisher-Price menu system. I'm sure it's great on a touch screen tablet, but for those of us who own a desktop it's just a mess to use.
#stickingwith7
10-02-2014, 04:11 PM
Noshpan

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Originally Posted by Yoninxi

Post of the year

It's almost as good as the post made by a female Troll Shaman on the WoW forums regarding Arthas' horse, Invincible.

"If he's invincible how come I can still see it?" That is the best post of ALL TIME.
10-02-2014, 04:24 PM
Ruri

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alistaire

Yeah companies sometimes do consider things like that, I remember hearing Chevy Nova sold terrible in Spanish speaking places...something about "no va" means "doesn't go".

Yea they actually taught me that in Spanish class years back, I still remember
10-02-2014, 04:31 PM
Roris

Just tried it today, works great, much better than 8 even with 8.1. Though it really is just 8.2, that's why everything that works on 7 and 8 works on 10, all the games I've tried so far work fine. Still it's funny how simply removing the Metro start screen by default and adding a proper start menu makes a world of difference, you can still switch between the start menu and start screen if you want too, but why would you. It also feels much snappier, 8 always felt sluggish for some reason even if raw performance wise it was comparable to 7 or even better in some cases, at least in benchmarks. Latest AMD drivers work great on it and installed fine, dunno about Nvidia drivers.
10-02-2014, 08:50 PM
Riardon

On my system 8.1 is smoother than 7. It really depends on driver version. Every month I test the new drivers and the last one is the smoothest of all in FFXIV (nvidia GTX760) on Windows 8.1. So it comes down to the drivers mostly.
Windows 10 will be out next year and many features are left out from the tech preview so we are viewing an unfinished beta program yet. The final release will be much better.
10-02-2014, 09:27 PM
Kio

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

MS hasn't officially made comment but credible sources say it's due to old coding that is commonly used by many programs that recognize the OS title of windows 9 as either windows '98 or '95. So they had to skip it for stability reasons.
10-02-2014, 09:40 PM
Delsus

I have the preview installed, and I'm just patching FFXIV up now, I'll report what happens, but I won't comment on any loading time differences because my Win10, and FFXIV will be on a HDD rather than my SSD.
10-02-2014, 09:57 PM
MeiUshu

they went straight from 8 to 10, although this is not yet available in my country not even as a beta. I need to wait mid of next year lol...cant complain by then all those that had it already will have got all troubles and I will get the clear version....(evil laugh sort of kind of)

Mei
10-02-2014, 10:13 PM
ZodiacSoldier

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Where did 9 go?

I read a few of the articles talking about Windows 10. Remember two reasons why they said they skipped to 10. One of them was the corny joke "Seven ate Nine", I was like really?. Another article said the developers felt that the new OS was so Advance that they had to skip a number, which is pretty stupid since this is from the same idiots that gave us windows 8.

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Originally Posted by Brianmj

For the curious: http://techreport.com/news/27144/thi...lled-windows-9

This seems like the most logical answer from a tech standpoint.

And I have yet to try the game on Windows 10 yet, the beta just came out like yesterday. Probably still really buggy.
10-02-2014, 10:18 PM
Bixby

Sorry to derail this thread with an answer to the OP, but:

This guy, apparently, did.
10-02-2014, 10:21 PM
Tiggy

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Originally Posted by Marael

Considering that Windows 8.1 is the most recent version of windows... I think you'd better delete that ISO immediately, because, you know, there's no such thing as Windows 10 as of yet, and it's probably some sort of virus that will F your computer up hardcore.

The power of the google failed this one and the 4 people who liked this post.

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

You don't determine the windows version on the name string, you do so on the version string - also windows XP and up can fake the name and version strings

A wise and practiced programmer would, but a lazy or ignorant one wouldn't. You'd be surprised how many are in the latter category.
10-02-2014, 11:29 PM
BillyBones

What's the point in upgrading to 10 anyway? 7 is perfectly fine, no?
10-02-2014, 11:57 PM
Roris

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Originally Posted by BillyBones

What's the point in upgrading to 10 anyway? 7 is perfectly fine, no?

No point right now unless you like testing the latest preview, but it might actually be worth upgrading this time when the final version releases, skip 8 either way.
10-03-2014, 12:08 AM
Haibel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

well we have Vista which was NT6
Then we have 7 which was NT6.1 and the seventh OS on the NT kernel.
then we have 8 which is NT6.2 and the eight OS on the NT kernel.
Then 8.1 which was NT6.3 and the ninth OS on the NT kernel..
Now we have 10, which is 6.4 and the 10th OS on the NT kernel.

Is windows 10 even part of the NT kernel? Last I knew they were working on unifiying all the kernals so all microsoft devices were on the same thing.
10-03-2014, 01:51 AM
Doki

10 is pretty much 8.1 with some slight GUI changes. It's more of a PR upgrade than an OS upgrade. Everyone in the enterprise world hates the forced fullscreen start screen crap, so they made changes. I guess they skipped 9 to circumvent a lot of scripting runs looking for 9* to run rules specific to Win95 or Win98 apps.
10-03-2014, 01:51 AM
AdamuKun322

Windows 10 was just announced, by no means is that OS ready for usage with gamers until it's available for in-store purchase or download.
10-03-2014, 02:07 AM
TheMoonflow

Windows 9 would have been too strong
The strongest in fact

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