[curiosity]Raiding... how do you approach it....

Some groups will watch a specific guide and follow the steps exactly, some will watch multiple and take a mashup and go with that... Some will read a text based guide and work off of that.. Some will go in blind with no guides or explanations and figure it out on your own...

My own group goes in blind and we have tons of fun trying to figure out stuff - after we mostly have stuff figured we might look at at guide or two to improve our understanding of the fight - and no we are not at the cutting edge of progression..

What about your groups? How do you handle it?

Usually just go in blind, have one person record the raid, and review it.
After we think we have the info of what we did, we compare them with other VoDs/ ask other people how they handle this situation.
Usually the next day we try other strats; in the end we either use a different strat or combine them.

All really depends on the group's patience though!

can't really talk about static,since I'm not in one, but I usually approach endgame contents by reading 1 or 2 guides beforehead, I watch a video, and when I have the genera idea of how it works, I jump in DF to earn some direct experience...
whenever I feel ready to go for the kill, I jump to PF, and wait hours till the party is filled xD

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Originally Posted by ruskie

Raiding... how do you approach it....

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With a razor blade in one hand and a bottle in the other.

We usually check a guide to know atleast what skills boss uses but then we just make our own tactic how to finish dat thing. :) Challenging enough for me. :)

Enter the fight without any information in advance and wipe after 10 seconds. Then watch a video and trying the fight out again. After a few hours of own experience, watch the video again for details you may have missed or couldn't bring into context without seeing it with your own eyes. Then wipe, wipe, wipe and adjust your party setup till you win. Talk to each other about good AND bad things that happened and do not be afraid to talk about weak spots you have identified.

My group approaches it the "fun" way. We slam our faces against the wall until we break a hole through it!

We try it by ourselves until a video of the fight itself is out. Then I watch the video and think about a strategy what could fit at best for my group. Then it is trial & error until the boss is down. Videos are nice for a first impression, but to kill a boss you have to come up with your own stuff and practice it until all 8 members can execute their job.

Used to do it for fun and story. Basically my group was going in, trying to survive the longest that we could to see the max of the fight (without actually fighting sometimes, we went into T4's P3 with still some bugs the first time, to see what was coming), then we were discussing about what happened, testing a bit for repetability and progressing to the next step. As soon as it became boring and/or dull, we were "out for the day and let's do other fun stuff".


Now I don't have a group anymore. It will be "go and see what you can do, deal with the hate in DF and eventually enjoy the CS of that irrelevant content"

I catch whatever learning groups I can and slowly, but surely pick up experience with hands on experience. I feel this is the best and more casual friendly way to learning raids.

Go in blind and do as much dmg as possible as fast as possible to trigger as many mechanics as possible. Review and stabilize ability to progress to that point, then repeat till you get to the end.

I usually don't touch endgame much unless I know that I'm ready to face it so it mostly gearing up and managing my time first before jumping into Endgame.

Well I love that I see people still trying it on their own without guides and stuff atleast to start with. I just wish that people that join on PF which clearly states blind run would understand this.

We tend to go in with little knowledge of the fight, see as to what happens. A few tend to watch some downing videos afterwards if available. Seeing as to how indepth strategy guides tend to not quite be available yet at that time, we often end up having some less common tactics in the end. Taking in a replacement PUG may then also quickly lead to them dying :p. But also within our own FC the developed strategies in between raiding groups can greatly vary.

For low difficulty content I'll go in blind (preferrably with other members of my FC); but for high difficulty stuff I'll always watch a video, preferrably MTQcapture's. From there it's all about adapting to whatever strategy's become prominent beyond that, because I'm pretty quick to learn and adapt.

And finding a party that can actually clear it, because, well, my work schedule's too erratic to participate in a static so I have to rely on Duty Finder. As a result, I feel like the least I can do on my end is try to be at least aware of what I'm walking into when I join a learning/going for clear party.

I'll do a quick watch of MrHappy just to know what each move does. Then I'll watch a couple POV videos of my class and that usually allows me not fuck up after my 2nd attempt.

1. Realise with my gear level, I am more than ready to start Coil.
2. Watch some MTQ videos.
3. Spend a moment to imagine having to learn these mechanics with the abusive assholes DF attracts in my party.
4. Nearly uninstall game.
5. Remember I don't have to do this.
6. Be sad I won't get to see the story or wear the good-looking gear any time soon, but okay.
7. Go back to Crystal Tower, which is still peppered with abusive shits, but is at least perfectly do-able even if I'm a little tired or distracted or just not having a top day.

But seriously, for Crystal Tower, I just go in blind because it's a mostly forgiving place and I do it simply because I enjoy the dynamics of a 24-man group.
Anything beyond that, I will watch a video, because ARR has a tendency to drown important mechanics in effect spam, but I'm not gonna pretend for even one second that that remotely compares to actually doing the fight. If I had a static, I'd be just fine going in blind and only pulling up a guide if something completely stumps us. Failing repeatedly is just part of Raiding to me, I'm not scared of it.

Depends. If it was just added that day (my preferred time to run things), I'm going in blind like everyone else with a big grin and earnest hope we survive. :D (This covers CT, not Coil)

For stuff that's been out a while, I may try to look at a guide or two but it doesn't really stick or they make no sense anyways. I'll wait until I'm feeling brave and my friends are feeling patient and I'll give it a try. Anyone who can break fights down into pieces while I'm staring at the enemies is really appreciated. <3

PUNCH ALL THE FACES!