Why does the nutkin minion cost more than a HOUSE?

I mean... I understand the importance of having rare desirable items in a game, but it seems like a bit much when it appears to cost more than a small freaking house on most servers. The last few on Excalibur have sold for 7 million+ and it seems to be the same on other servers.

I get the reason for it's current cost/value, this is more a question to why the devs would make it quite so rare. It does sort of feel like the other map minions, and the opo in brayflox are way more rare than necessary for vanity/cute items that serve no purpose other than to be cute.

I mean... I *could* continue to grind and buy one since I sort of want to own them all, but it's getting pretty ridiculous when it comes to minions. If I lot under 10 on the ST minion one more time.... /tableflip.

Supply and demand I guess. If it's an item that has a very low drop rate/is difficult to gain, and is highly desired, of course the price is going to be ridiculously high. That's consumerism for you. ;)

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Originally Posted by Doki

I mean... I understand the importance of having rare desirable items in a game

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The rest of your statement proves this claim to be false.

It's a rare drop off a rare drop off an item you can only get every 18 hours/character.

Because people are nuts. http://i61.tinypic.com/suziwj.png

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

It's a rare drop off a rare drop off an item you can only get every 18 hours/character.

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Mapception!! or Raredropception!!! That being said, as an owner of a Nutkin (still looking for a rich home) those things are a witch to sell.

Because this is FF ARR VANITY EDITION. kthx

Wait, so they're actually listing for over 4 mil? And they're selling? I mean, I like pets and all, but dang.

I get that they're rare (it's RNG inside RNG so you can grind while you grind), but that's absurd.

Since the unhidden maps were released, I got 3 of them in total so far and I collect a map 7 days a week. So the drop rate of the maps is quite low. And then you have another low chance to get the minion. That's why this one is ultra rare. Already Bluebird from Peiste skin maps costed 2 millions when it came out and it is still quite expensive on Ragnarok because it is so rare.

they sell for 6 mil on excal, i got mine from a treasure chest, glad i got the best minion ever now i never have to worry about farming minions again. squrriel for life

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

Since the unhidden maps were released, I got 3 of them in total so far and I collect a map 7 days a week. So the drop rate of the maps is quite low. And then you have another low chance to get the minion. That's why this one is ultra rare. Already Bluebird from Peiste skin maps costed 2 millions when it came out and it is still quite expensive on Ragnarok because it is so rare.

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Since the unhidden maps were released, I got so many fo them in total that I could have bought a Nutkin directly after selling maps for 170k~200k each, but I decided to meld my crafts for 3stars instead :>

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

Wait, so they're actually listing for over 4 mil? And they're selling? I mean, I like pets and all, but dang.

I get that they're rare (it's RNG inside RNG so you can grind while you grind), but that's absurd.

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Yeah, they sell for over 7m on Excalibur last I checked.

Some people have a lot of money and there's really nothing to do with it at the moment. Might as well buy adorable minions.

Prices tend to be high when Supply is low, and hard to get a hold of, and Demand is high and everyone else wants one.

Good old fashioned Supply and Demand.

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Originally Posted by Zaft

Yeah, they sell for over 7m on Excalibur last I checked.

Some people have a lot of money and there's really nothing to do with it at the moment. Might as well buy adorable minions.

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This more so than anything else really. It's not so much just a matter of supply and demand, but much rather just a matter of nothing else really to spend gil on in this game.

People have a tendency of complaining about the recent gil sinks (personal rooms, personal housing), however do tend to forget that the influx of gil into the game has drastically increased over the last year. Where first you had to struggle to obtain 100k gil as new currency into the market (low gil mob drops, items vendoring to NPC's for next to nill, etc) you can now get a 100k gil as new currency easily. In particular thanks to increased gil drops, challenge logs, etc. Consequently, gil is piling up.

Sure many players would come to claim that they're broke as hell due to marketboard prices and all. But just a small fraction of that gil actually leaves the game. To those players set on selling produce on the market boards the rate of incoming gil is ever increasing. Quickly turning a sum of 5 million gil into little more than pocket change.

And without further gil sinks, this is going to increase only even further. You may think 7 million for a pet is a lot right now. But give it another year and such pets may go for 20 million. Two years, and you may be talking about 50 million. Just your regular insane MMO inflation due to new gil being magically created out of thin air in a much higher rate than it being withdrawn out of the economy again.

At least there is one item that is not overly common.

Even the rare bluebird is uncommon at best. We need more items in this game to help toons stand out more.

Please add more minions that are this rare SE

only one on cerberus is currently 15m.

Apparently the rule is that useful gear is easy to obtain while useless vanity stuff is almost impossible to get.

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Originally Posted by Vaara

Apparently the rule is that useful gear is easy to obtain while useless vanity stuff is almost impossible to get.

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Not particularly true. However most useful, limited gear cannot be traded. As it are drops from encounters. So rather than buying the item, players would have to buy runs in the encounter. Practise which is commonly done, and some players are willing to spend a good deal of money on this. Tens of millions are not out of the question.

7m on gilgamesh

the sad part is I probably spent 10m on unhidden maps and haven't gotten one :/

Well I have a lot of clusters now...

I cant believe people even... I... Ugh.

At least where there was super-inflation on FFXI it was for BiS gear at the time, like Scorpion Harness+1

But have you seen how adorable it looks?

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

It's a rare drop off a rare drop off an item you can only get every 18 hours/character.

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Map double mooch!!

I'm surprised the price is so high for so many servers. I'm on Balmung (legacy) and the price seems to hover between 2.5M and 4M. Still ridiculous imo, but half what other servers are selling for X_X

Well I got 2 unhidden maps in a row last week and thought id try and find out what the map drops other than the nutkin (I have found the map 2 other times and attempted it only to be massively disappointed with the cost of the map being much higher than the cost of the item reward)

On Leviathan every single item from that chest is less than the map sells for by a decent margin, the maps sell for approximately 200k and only one item will get you close to that reward and a handful of others will net you maybe 100k. The Nutkin sells for 6 million but if in my assumptions that it is somewhere along 5% drop rate like what the other minions are that's a 1/20 chance which means all things being random and you do come across it on the 20th time (Not the case for me since I did almost a 8 months worth of boarskin maps daily before seeing tonberry and likewise with my friend too who got his on the first drop and never saw one again until yesterday)

You are likely to lose somewhere around 2-4 million gil to just try and force one, that's if your lucky enough to get it in the first 20 times. If its similar to the tonberry minion then it would prob take me over 100 maps and cost me atleast 10 million or more. So for me I just put the maps on the market board and take my 200k instead of gambling it for nothing. Normally its the same handful of people that buy out the maps so they are either trying hard for themselves or to make a profit. Which would mean 6 million is a reasonable price, compared to the investment and risk furthermore if someone has invested a lot into getting that minion to sell they are much more reluctant to drop prices to sell it quicker, not to mention its huge rarity completely restricting supply and thus normally being almost no competition it sits on the board until someone pays that 6 million.

PS I just did a map as they were selling for 150k (and mine sold for 200k) and thought i'd try and see:
10,000 gil
polarised glass - 16k
morbol saliva - 15k
2 animal fat - 9k
grade 3 shroud soil - 4k
50 ice cluster - 37k
aetherial rainmaker hat - 0 (I guess this could be spiritbonded into materia and make a significant amount of gil depending on luck so in theory it could be worth between 500 gil and 150k)

Total will be around 90k after tax. A loss of 60k. (or almost break even if you include the profit I made from selling my map and buying the other one at 50k cheaper)

Because people will pay that much.

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

Wait, so they're actually listing for over 4 mil? And they're selling? I mean, I like pets and all, but dang.

I get that they're rare (it's RNG inside RNG so you can grind while you grind), but that's absurd.

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That's cute, the last one on Ragnarok sold at 10M. This is madness...

It's rare I suppose.

All I know is, it's really freakin' cute when he sits on my head. ^__^

because.... houses dont drop from random mobs <3

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Originally Posted by Doki

At least where there was super-inflation on FFXI it was for BiS gear at the time, like Scorpion Harness+1

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This is a positive thing, I think. It's unlikely that you'll be kicked from a party for not having a Nutkin, where this was a very real thing for BiS items in FFXI. "Come back when you've saved up for a Nutkin, n00b!"

It's because despite what the forums would have you believe, it is harder to get than a small house.

Maybe some people would rather live in a squirrel than in a house.

The house is just another vanity trophy item like the nutkin, but the nutkin is rarer. Price is determined by supply and demand. Do people think they should be entitled to the nutkin also?

In any case, in real life, a there wines for $300,000 USD which is easily more than a lot of real houses too. Is it really a surprise that a nutkin is priced so high?

btw, that nutkin i mentioned on cerberus?

we think people keep buying it and jacking up the price further! lol