We're consistently making it to about 15% with me constantly burning cooldowns and MP potions. All the videos I've looked up run double bard for near full uptime on ballad but we have just one who's also playing TP song half the time. Is running two bards recommended? Are there any videos I could watch where there aren't two bards?
It just feels like a mad rush of spam heals so it's hard for me to figure out where I can do something better.
WHM or SCH tips are appreciated, I've done both with similar results. I'm using Medica II or Cure III (depending on tower set) on WHM and Rouse + Whispering Dawn on SCH for defensive towers but it gets really messy towards the end (I think 7th set?) where we have landmines and a second defensive tower go off before I have everyone topped off. I'm aware that may need to change but not sure how.
Tips for solo healing T8?
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09-24-2014, 09:50 AMLyrinnTips for solo healing T8?
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09-24-2014, 05:34 PMColdea
What is your group composition ? 1 Tank, 1 Healer (Whm) and 6 DPS ?
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09-24-2014, 06:39 PMDreamWeaver
but it gets really messy towards the end (I think 7th set?) where we have landmines and a second defensive tower go off before I have everyone topped off
Perhaps reevaluate how you trigger the towers? I understand there's multiple ways to handle the towers as well as when to push phase etc, but if you're solo healing, probably find the best method that has 0 AF threat (You no need to stoneskin/adlo the AF victim), and your above mentioned landmines + defensive tower combo.
I'll list out what my static does that gives us the above conditions:
Wave 5(? I'm not sure which exact wave, but it's the 1 with mines and defensive tower), 2 on Mines, after clearing mines and during second brainjack, push boss below 45% (10 second window, with an extra dps, you probably need to hold dps and wait for the 2nd brainjack, if you can't meet this requirement, sorry can't help you further :(), if you did it correctly, Avatar will straight away cast AF, instead of Ballistic Missile.
Wave 6 (starting of 3 tower phases), 2 person on Defensive tower A, 1 person on Defensive Tower B, once the 1st AF blows up, tank enters defensive tower A to manual trigger (5 sec window b4 next AF is applied).
Wave 7, 2 person on Defensive tower, 1 person on mines. -
09-24-2014, 09:10 PMLyrica_Ashtine
Is this for progression sake or for self achievement?
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09-24-2014, 10:23 PMPetiteMalFleurIf you are solo healing I assume you have at least 5 dps. If the boss is at 15% at the 7th tower set with 5 dps then idk what to tell you. My group uses 4 dps and we skip the 5th tower and kill it at the end of the 7th tower rotation. When we ran solo tank we ignored dreads and mines to burn the boss meaning we skipped the mechanics of the towers your group is struggling with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyrinn
Are you sure it isn't the 6th set right after the first allagan field? -
09-25-2014, 01:44 AMLyrinnPLD, healer, MNK, DRG, BRD, BLM, 2 SMNQuote:
Originally Posted by Coldea
That's what I was thinking but the group doesn't like to make huge adjustments, even though I think it might be necessary if we're to make this work.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
We did get a Ballistic Missile at around 35% I think, which we thought was weird, but it didn't cause any problems. We skip set 5 though and I'm sure most groups do.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
I'll bring this up with my leader and see if we can try it, thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
Self achievement mainly, though my co-healer is also a DPS main who was stuck healing so I think he's happier with this too. Ever since my group tried it with T6 and found it laughably easier, everyone has been liking it so we've been trying to do this with everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine
You might be right, I don't clearly remember because it was hectic trying to keep everyone up. It might have been landmines from 6. All I know is that the way we normally do it (with 2 healers) is after landmines go out, tank triggers the last stack on defensive and that's not working out with solo heal. >>Quote:
Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur
Also, any comments on the bard situation? I'm assuming this is doable with just one bard? Or is two recommended? -
09-25-2014, 02:10 AMLyrica_Ashtine
If it's for self achievement, I'll just drop two hints:
1) Not healing is also part of healing
2) Put two people in the mine tower on set 6 -
09-25-2014, 01:15 PMPetiteMalFleur
I'm not sure about the bard situation since he's going to have to alternate between tp and mana songs. Depends on your melee and how often they need song. I'd really encourage tower pushes to be changed so there is no AF up when defensive towers are going off. Having to deal with the mitigation for that plus heal up so much aoe damage will be way too intense for solo healing.
You can align the mechanics by by doing the following
2 West/1 South/0 mines then AF person triggers west tower after their AF goes off.
2 dread/1 mines and kill it as the dread spawns.
If your group is having to kill the dread and handle the last set of mines you may need a third person to push the dread tower to help space the tower spawn. -
09-26-2014, 06:22 PMGrotesqueYou have to trigger both towers early at 45% to skip ballistic. Otherwise, if one tower runs its full duration without beging triggered you will always get the last ballistic missle no matter which % you're at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyrinn
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09-26-2014, 09:42 PMSanguisio
Make sure you are making full use of HOTs, e.g HOT and Cure 1 not spamming Cure IIs
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09-28-2014, 01:00 PMLovemonster
Physick spam for the tank, Rouse/WD for defensive (should heal ~2000) and physick/lustrate for landmines and brainjack/homing missile bait. If you do this you should be at max MP for the entire fight. You should use piety build for t8, crit sucks here since you don't need adloquium. If you go piety build (~5000MP) you will regen 125 MP per gcd with good aetherflow use (physick = 133MP).
Don't need aldoquium for dreads if tank is using convalescence or brainjack target. No need to use succor for early phases: if dps are not topped off with WD then sacred soil (10%)/fey covenant(7%) (if Eos). If you have the time use proshell protect outside fight and enter as SCH (15% MDef boost = 5%). If you use all 3 that's ~20% magic damage reduction. You can use succor during three tower phase for defensive only.
If you are really good you can ensure embrace is used all the time so you don't have to stop physick spam (or let embrace heal tank and you physick other target)
TLDR: adloquium and succor are waste of MP, if you don't use them you won't need mage ballad. Only use them if you are behind in gcd/panic. -
10-02-2014, 09:03 AMSensu
So, I ended up solo healing a large part of this fight as our whm disconnected after 5% in and came back at 10% left on boss. Never needed Mages Ballad but rarely needed Lustrate either, so I just used Energy Drain every now and then and still used a succor to be on the safe side. I had around 4.3k mp back then, think I had around half my mana left when the fight ended. Didn't plan on it, but worked out well.