Attention devs: Game Surveillance Unit re: open world Bots.

This is a call to the devs to give the GSU a well deserved talking to about their lack of effort when it comes to actioning open world bot reports. People think it takes them a while to investigate or often question whether the accusations of running automated tools have merit, irrespective of this the harsh reality is that they aren't banning these bots at all.

I've been in back and forth discussions with GM's about this, they've told me their hands are tied, they can't make the GSU do anything other than escalate to their attention. Their advice was to create a complaint forum post under General Discussion which will hopefully alert the right people to take action. No naming and shaming allowed or forum ban will result.

As I've said in other posts, I have reported the same 4 bots on Tonberry and their spiritbond gear crafter every single day, sometimes twice a day, for over 2 months and they are still online right now happily botting away.

I'll be updating this thread with details, screenshots and hopefully video footage when I get time (as it would be pretty sad if I spent more time on this than actually playing the game).

I just gave up reporting them. I'm starting to think that they are not banning them just because of there are so many that it would hurt sub profits. Some of the same ones that have been around for half a year or more are still here. It seems like there isn't a single zone that doesn't have a few at any given time.

I don't know if they are using the same tactic here.... but I remember long ago in FFXI SE made a statement saying that they were going to use a particular ban style.

One where they basically watched the account to be banned for a long time, gathered info on where all the gil etc was going - then when it had accumulated a great accomplishment of Gil or such - then is when they banned them.

They said something like... causing more devastation to the account this way deters the behavior from happening again or something... again I don't have a clue if they kept using the strategy or if they use it here... but its something to think about.

I'd like to believe there is a concerted effort going on in the background where they are hitting bot runners and gil sellers where it hurts but it seems to be just a pipe dream.

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That's a silly way of looking at it. By leaving it a while for them to accumulate and sell the gil, they make enough money to continue buying new accounts. If they were very fast in banning the RMT accounts, the accounts would end up losing the RMT money and they would either change their tactics or go broke (hopefully the latter).

Put it another way, RMT is watched for 1 month, over that month they make 2m a day so say 60m gil. They sell half of it at... /checks chat log.... $5 per million, that is $150. Account gets shut down and they buy another game for $50 and still have $100 profit.

Ban them before they can sell the gil, they still have to buy the game but they haven't sold any gil to fund that purchase (eventually they will ban all the accounts the RMT steal....).

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Originally Posted by Lexxuk

That's a silly way of looking at it. By leaving it a while for them to accumulate and sell the gil, they make enough money to continue buying new accounts. If they were very fast in banning the RMT accounts, the accounts would end up losing the RMT money and they would either change their tactics or go broke (hopefully the latter).

Put it another way, RMT is watched for 1 month, over that month they make 2m a day so say 60m gil. They sell half of it at... /checks chat log.... $5 per million, that is $150. Account gets shut down and they buy another game for $50 and still have $100 profit.

Ban them before they can sell the gil, they still have to buy the game but they haven't sold any gil to fund that purchase (eventually they will ban all the accounts the RMT steal....).

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It only costs 15 dollars to buy the game; and get a free month. so that's 135 dollars profit.

Mining bot - Eastern Thanalan. Been there all day moving between nodes with AFK sign on the whole time. X23 Y19.

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Hell, leave the bots and give us the ability to filter what tells we receive. Personally, if you aren't on my friend list or in my FC I won't need a tell from you 99% of the time.

They don't ban bots at all in my experience from the many, many reports I have sent them. Not a single one has ever been banned. They care more about their community of automatic scripts/programs users more so than their community of fair and legitimately playing members. I have come to the conclusion there is no such thing as this so called special task force or unit and all GM's do is tell you to send reports to this fictional unit.

In a previous MMO I played in order to show they were tackling the problem about bots they would at the end of every week post a list of all the bots they banned listing both server and character names so people could see for themselves that their reports were having an effect by sometimes seeing the names of the ones they reported in that list. This was greatly appreciated and endorsed by the community building a high level or trust and goodwill towards the GM's.

To check if someone was a bot only took them less than a couple minutes, they would enter the game world, go to the location and then while cloaked teleport the suspected bot to a limbo like room in which any rational and normal player would react to such an event but a bot program would run into the walls or stop moving and just stand there doing nothing and not reacting, the GM's to make even more sure was a bot would then send a message to the player/bot and if the bot disconnected upon receiving a GM message which is what a lot of bots did as they were coded to disconnect at sight or sound of GM nearby or if did not respond at all they would know it was a bot.

This system of proving who was a bot worked, their list at the end of each week proved they were tackling the problem and all this created good will towards the GM's and trust between the players and the GM's. This game however GM's do nothing and never bans any bots. The only thing they ban is the RMT spammers but never ever any gathering, crafting or EXP grinding bots.

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I'd like to believe there is a concerted effort going on in the background where they are hitting bot runners and gil sellers where it hurts but it seems to be just a pipe dream.

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wow....
why have a report function if this is the response.
'my hands are tied" ... i just cant.

can i please have a job on the Task Force SE? please!
you wont even need to pay me. just cover my sub from time to time.
ill catch tons.

I know at least one confirmed botter as well.
I've reported the him, friend reported him... no action taken.

We are asked to report them, we do it. But then no action is taken?
These shenanigans are unacceptable.

You know what is the cherry on the cake? I bet they took those botters gil into account when pricing housing, lol.

I thought paying an account would help free my gaming experience from botters and get to see more integrity from the company, unlike F2P games.
Seems like I was wrong on that point...

N.B.: The devs are working their arse off and certainly not for botters. I hope to see some pressure coming from them too to help treat the botting plague.

Here I introduce the 4 bots I love to hate most because they are positioned right in my favourite spot to spiritbond, and usually spend most of the day there botting Golden Fleece. I've reported them to the GSU daily for 2 months and are seemingly immune to prosecution. Well on this occasion, Gatling was nearby, and took great offence to their presence. He's not happy with the GSU's lack of action either.

Eastern Thanalan X27 Y24 & X25 Y24.

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Someone killed a bunch of bots near Fallgourd on Balmung, they did not respond to someone mpking them lol, now they're just afking dead.

Also in Ul'dah aetheryte you can see ---armies--- of blackmages with the exact same gear queuing up for duty. I suppose it could be a multiboxer, but someone is going nuts on materia as every time I'm there at least 2-4 BLM --/groups/-- are spawning in and out. I suppose the good news of that is at least its not very gil generating*. Legacy servers get to thank a year of cedar leve botting for part of its awesome inflation.

*Generating gil devalues other gil, as it gets brought through to other players with the most common player interaction - the market wards, which increases the gil of those players and generally those players alone (players that find something of demand, some items are not going to mean anything, even with inflation). So as you go to those housing threads and see "why are people complaining, I'm so rich and its easy - make these things on the market boards and roll in gil" then you can figure that other players who don't use the market make a much more inferior number with the same rate of time.

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Someone killed a bunch of bots near Fallgourd on Balmung, they did not respond to someone mpking them lol, now they're just afking dead.

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I have reported this same group three times now, each time with extensive details into what they do, how they have a crafter in their FC who makes all their spiritbind gear etc. and nothing has been done to remove them. They used to be in South Shroud near Amdapor Keep entrance (I reported them way back then) but have decided that monopolising the Plasmoids in North Shroud works better for them. At this point, I'm not entirely sure what we can do to get rid of them. It's so obvious they are bots and yet they are still here, so I suppose starting a thread here is all we can attempt now.

Personally I think that the reason why these bots manage to survive this long without getting banned is not so much due to GM's unwillingness, lacking or whatever. But more rather I think it's a concious choice NOT to ban them. Which is being done for multiple reasons I suspect.

1) To give aid in identification of potential RMT traffic. By leaving the farmer account alone a company can rather target possible mule accounts, seller accounts and more importantly possible gil buyer accounts. The sellers after all aren't going to vanish anyway. For them a financial profit can be made pretty fast, even if they'd have to go back to manual farming at very low wages in sweatshops. So banning gil buyers is usually a more effective approach.

2) By allowing farming accounts such as these, which usually control the shard markets and similar low level items otherwise passed upon, the shard pricings remain much more reasonable. Shard mining is a very tedious process, they're needed in very high numbers and compared to the time investment right now are far off from many other items. If bots wouldn't farm thousands of those, prices would skyrocket on shard. The game's economy would change vastly without question. Many consumables such as foods and potions would probably become 3x or 4x as expensive as they are right now, in no time at all. And for many people managing gil is already an issue right now.

I'm also TOTALLY fed up by seeing same bots month by month on the same spots after hundreds of reports made about them :(

The problem is that "reporting" in game or here in Forums is pretty much useless - the best / most "direct" way to contact the special unit (GSU) dealing with RMT, cheaters and boters is actually via Lodestone - second part of the screen. If you still have a bit of faith and effort left please try to report them there as well - hopefully increased amount reports there will trigger finally some more firm actions ...

Here they are again, the bots from my previous post, still online and well. They get lined up against the wall while their creepy looking crafter makes more spirtbond gear for them. Tonberry, Lower Limsa (X6 Y12).

Please post pictures of the bots on your server to drive the message to SE that we don't want to pay hard earned money for a game that allows cheating.

This is just not good enough Square Enix, rather it's pretty pathetic that you turn a blind eye to 3rd party tool use.

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Lately I've been noticing a reemergence of a form of hacking. I say "reemergence" because I hadn't seen this used since nearly a year ago. Anyway, I've been noticing mobs suddenly fighting something not there. Earlier this evening I was in Eastern La Noscea, waiting for a FATE that I needed for one of my Animus books. Suddenly I noticed the nearby coeurl attacking something, but there was noone there. Then I noticed, beneath the ground that these coeurl were attacking, the messages stating when this individual took damage, gained Astral Fire or Umbral Ice. They stopped for awhile, my guess is that they noticed that I was there. Since I couldn't target them, much less see them, I couldn't get a name to report.

I just did a quick scan of the Market Board which revealed these bots have the following materia for sale.
They weren't intelligent enough to give their retainer a different name to their character.

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Prospective current sales total of 2,929,600 gil (so this is a typical daily average haul for these guys).

Apparently we are all rich, wonder how SE came to that conclusion......
Are we ok with this being allowed? I'm not. Keep having your say and lets get the devs attention to take action!

Well, like i was saying to you on an other post, if they not ban after that long, maybe there are not bots but just multiple characters controlled by the same player.
I see on your picture that he did not reply to trade and was kill by hunt mob, but that's not a perfect proof. Could be on his crafter, playing his others char while not watching them and spamming a /tenemy /cast offensiveSpell macro.
While you dont like this, there is no rules broke and no need to 3thd party at that point.

Do you have a video or something that show his slaves drived by an AI ? (Like while he's not answering to trade something like independant movement, heal below a % of health, complexe rotation or proc usage that can't be done with in game macro)

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Well, like i was saying to you on an other post, if they not ban after that long, maybe there are not bots but just multiple characters controlled by the same player.
I see on your picture that he did not reply to trade and was kill by hunt mob, but that's not a perfect proof. Could be on his crafter, playing his others char while not watching them and spamming a /tenemy /cast offensiveSpell macro.
While you dont like this, there is no rules broke and no need to 3thd party at that point.

Do you have a video or something that show his slaves drived by an AI ? (Like while he's not answering to trade something like independant movement, heal below a % of health, complexe rotation or proc usage that can't be done with in game macro)

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I will record footage at some stage when I get time, it's hard to do this without revealing their names.
4 characters all in the same FC along with the crafter. When at the controls he moves them one at a time. When botting - they are all in combat at the same time doing the same exact thing the entire day long. If their Egi or Chocobo dies they are respawned almost immediately after. You can argue the point all day because you refuse to believe which is fine. My problem is that I know they are botting and SE won't even give the time of day to investigate and ban them. You can open trade with them at any time and they just stand there targeting mobs in a cycle (ie. they are running on complete automation which is supposed to be against the terms of service).

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If their Egi or Chocobo dies they are respawned almost immediately after.

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For exemple, that's a valid point.
Like i said earlier, without any 3thd party, he can play with his crafter, spam attack with his slaves while targeting mobs without activly watching (border line since tos state you should be able to answer to any GM wisper).
But for exemple, if he don't answer to trade but still immediatly resurect his chocobo and egi, that's something who can prove it's driven by AI.

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tos state you should be able to answer to any GM wisper).

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Would you mind point me to the place where it actually says that (apart of the fact that there are no "wispers" in ARR) please? I was looking trough the ToS and can't see it there despite many people caliming it to be there. And what if I have chat window off or de-selected most of the comms there or don't speeak the language?? What if I never heards of GM and have no idea who or what it is?

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I guess there is something wrong with spirit bonding now days? I know I have a great deal of time doing pretty much what you just listed. Just because they are on the same time as you does not mean they are bots. Are you on 24/7? If you are, are you a bot? I mean you must be since you are on 24/7 to monitor these 4 accounts 24/7? See how goofy that sounds?

Just because you see specific characters in a certain area a lot does not mean its a bot. Anyone that has done spirit bonding / harvesting knows that specific areas yield better results. Most people tend to hang around the places that yield the best results or an area that others do not like to be in.

I feel that people need a little more proof then I see them there every day.

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How about ban the people that purchase it? No customers = no sale = no bots = no rmt.

See how that works? You can ban bots all day and they will keep coming back until you make it not worth it. Based of the numbers you put in your post, you would have to do a massive amount of bot banning because you can typically get the game for 9.99 - 14.99 so it would take very little to get back into the game say 22.98 - 27.98. Hit them where it hurts and hit the customer.

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How about ban the people that purchase it? No customers = no sale = no bots = no rmt.

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It's a lot more than just $30 or so; it's time and time IS money. Which is why they should ban everyone involved in the process, because that is what truly makes it unprofitable. You cannot tell me that banning *just* the people who buy gil is the best long-term solution. That logic doesn't work very well.

These bots have to be high level to accomplish anything. A crafting bot would need a significant influx of gil and/or materials to be able to level up and be able to craft the stuff needed for those who spiritbond. The bots I see in N Shroud are usually some combination of CNJ, THM, and a BRD or two, they would have to grind up their XP in the world or duties in order to level. This would either cost man-hours to get someone to actively play the game, or they would be siphoning funds from some other account in order to off-set the cost and time to level once more.

The other thing is that while I've reported some of my my server's most obvious spiritbonding bots twice before, they are still there months later, months during which the Ixali were introduced and I now have to run past that same group in the same camp killing the same mobs like twice a day. I imagine hundreds of people do the same, and a few have likely MPKed them and/or reported them, all to no avail. I, personally, have not even received the courtesy of a "lol can't do anything sorry" response to my reports before. But now that I've found out about that Lodestone form, I'm going to give that a shot.

At least I only get 1 or 2 /tell gilseller spam now. That's way below what it used to be here, and the same for WoW and FFXI and Lineage.

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Would you minf point me to the place where it actually says that (apart of the fact that there are no "wispers" in ARR) please? What if I have chat window off or deselected msot of the comms there or don't speeak the language?? What if I never heards of GM and have no idea who or what it is?

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I'm 99% it was on TOS, but i did not find it anymore. Maybe they changed it in the last TOS update. Did not find it on webarchive

I don't want to be confrontational, as the title would supply, I just want to apply my perspective.

I craft. A LOT. I have striven to use the skills to garner Gil so as to allow me to reach higher points in crafting. In order to get that Gil, I have to perform tasks somewhat similar to what a Bot might do. Spend hours running a rotation on high end mats, run around a kill mobs for mats, etc. I may even have spent the time to write a macro (which is an in game tool) that can run me through a crafting rotation for 1- and 2- star items.

Now a lot of that activity seems bot-ish, but I'm right there doing it all. But if someone saw it and reported me multiple times I would be justifiably upset about it. I suppose you can tell by the toon's name that they're a Gil seller. But remember there are people out there who genuinely like the economy of the game as much as others love the PvP. Where do you think these Gil sellers swipe their ideas from?

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Lately I've been noticing a reemergence of a form of hacking. I say "reemergence" because I hadn't seen this used since nearly a year ago. Anyway, I've been noticing mobs suddenly fighting something not there. Earlier this evening I was in Eastern La Noscea, waiting for a FATE that I needed for one of my Animus books. Suddenly I noticed the nearby coeurl attacking something, but there was noone there. Then I noticed, beneath the ground that these coeurl were attacking, the messages stating when this individual took damage, gained Astral Fire or Umbral Ice. They stopped for awhile, my guess is that they noticed that I was there. Since I couldn't target them, much less see them, I couldn't get a name to report.

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Target the mob and see who it's targeting.

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Unlike gil sellers most people become attached to the character they play and losing it would cause more issues then it would for a gil seller. Most people will not start over again. Once the word gets out that buyers are being banned in masses the great majority rather have the character then the cheap gil.

Getting less tells does not mean that the tactics being used are effective. It could just mean the amount of gil purchased on that particular server is either in such a high demand that they don't need to advertise or it is so low that that have moved bots to other servers to profit.

If you check the forums you would see that just as many people are saying the amount of rmt tells have went down on there server as the other people saying it has increased. They just shift to the servers that give them the most.

As it stands you only see post (Very rarely) stating how many rmt's they have banned not how many buyers they have banned.

Hitting the customer is going to be the best bet.

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Someone killed a bunch of bots near Fallgourd on Balmung, they did not respond to someone mpking them lol, now they're just afking dead.

Also in Ul'dah aetheryte you can see ---armies--- of blackmages with the exact same gear queuing up for duty. I suppose it could be a multiboxer, but someone is going nuts on materia as every time I'm there at least 2-4 BLM --/groups/-- are spawning in and out. I suppose the good news of that is at least its not very gil generating*. Legacy servers get to thank a year of cedar leve botting for part of its awesome inflation.

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You play only in Balmung? because I have the same on the server I am ..Ulda'h Etherite three BLM appear and disappear together, same happen in the market near the board always the same three.

I am becoming to wonder whoever is doing this if that one is not doing it in many different worlds...

Mei

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Someone killed a bunch of bots near Fallgourd on Balmung, they did not respond to someone mpking them lol, now they're just afking dead.

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I have reported this same group three times now, each time with extensive details into what they do, how they have a crafter in their FC who makes all their spiritbind gear etc. and nothing has been done to remove them. They used to be in South Shroud near Amdapor Keep entrance (I reported them way back then) but have decided that monopolising the Plasmoids in North Shroud works better for them. At this point, I'm not entirely sure what we can do to get rid of them. It's so obvious they are bots and yet they are still here, so I suppose starting a thread here is all we can attempt now.

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The other thing is that while I've reported some of my my server's most obvious spiritbonding bots twice before, they are still there months later, months during which the Ixali were introduced and I now have to run past that same group in the same camp killing the same mobs like twice a day. I imagine hundreds of people do the same, and a few have likely MPKed them and/or reported them, all to no avail. I, personally, have not even received the courtesy of a "lol can't do anything sorry" response to my reports before.

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I guess there is something wrong with spirit bonding now days? I know I have a great deal of time doing pretty much what you just listed. Just because they are on the same time as you does not mean they are bots. Are you on 24/7? If you are, are you a bot? I mean you must be since you are on 24/7 to monitor these 4 accounts 24/7? See how goofy that sounds?

Just because you see specific characters in a certain area a lot does not mean its a bot. Anyone that has done spirit bonding / harvesting knows that specific areas yield better results. Most people tend to hang around the places that yield the best results or an area that others do not like to be in.

I feel that people need a little more proof then I see them there every day.

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Why would it have to be doing it 24/7 to be a bot?

The same group was on Sargatanas too. I did report them and haven't seen them in the last couple of weeks, so whether they were deleted or transferred or w/e idk. The report i filed never had a response.

As much as I hate cheating though, there's only a couple of few negative effects here. The first was that ominous phrase 'average gil per character' used when determining housing prices. The second is a possible market manipulation, but there's no direct evidence of this.

On the plus side, Tier III and IV materia is plentiful for all those folk upgrading Novus.

I agree with the poster above who stated that instead of worrying about these sellers, focus on the buyers. Put a notice up as you log in stating gil-buyers will have their S-E accounts permabanned and state that you've built a full list of gilseller accounts and that if a player accepts money from them and doesn't call a GM, their account will be deleted. Watch the gil-sellers' customer base disappear.

Of course, this won't happen, because with a balanced economy, everyone would be able to afford houses, tier IV materia, etc. and complete the content that's been provided a lot quicker. And that would outpace the developers, leading to people leaving the game sooner.

So I guess we're stuck with all you gil-buyers after all.

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Well for starters, they're cheating. Isn't that reason enough?

As for your crafter analogy, as a 3* crafter on two different classes myself I have to object. There is a vast, vast gulf of difference between a crafter using a macro and a bot walking in an exactly predefined pattern between 4 gathering points endlessly, while in AFK status the entire time. The one I bumped into the other day even got stuck on a cactus for about half a minute, and instead of doing the obvious thing that any actual player would do, ran in place against the cactus for several seconds and then started jumping, never actually chnging direction, until collision detection forced him past.

I love the game. It really entertains me and keeps me busy with fun goals I set for myself.

It saddens me bots and gil buyers don't get banned. Since FFXI I have this crazy idea SE controls it themselves. xD

Here is what I don't understand. They know exactly how much gil every single player has (Yoshida's argument on housing prices. They did a scan etc..) How come they can't notice suspicious gil fluctuations? If you ask me, too many people buying gil. SE won't ban them. All about the $$$.

Saw a mining bot the other day... he must have been going at it long enough to wear down his gear. All I heard was the "tink" of a missed strike. He would run the circuit of where node might be, sometimes find a node, if he didn't he'd run to the next possible stop.

Also saw a bunch of clones appear & disappear one after the other. That's some odd add on their using.

I vote for an Eorzea Law & Order SVU! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8lDYrvTILc

as explicitly evil as it sounds, why not "disrupt" the bot seller websites? lol

Seen the same group of lalafell black mages spamming instances for gil in ul'dah for quite some time. You can tell they're bots/RMT because they have those ridiculous names where it's just a bunch of random letters. Nothing seems to be done about them or no one cares lol. Also seen a fair share of bots farming shards, similar to the one in a screenshot in an earlier post. It surprises me how little is done about such blatant botting.

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I guess there is something wrong with spirit bonding now days? I know I have a great deal of time doing pretty much what you just listed. Just because they are on the same time as you does not mean they are bots. Are you on 24/7? If you are, are you a bot? I mean you must be since you are on 24/7 to monitor these 4 accounts 24/7? See how goofy that sounds?

Just because you see specific characters in a certain area a lot does not mean its a bot. Anyone that has done spirit bonding / harvesting knows that specific areas yield better results. Most people tend to hang around the places that yield the best results or an area that others do not like to be in.

I feel that people need a little more proof then I see them there every day.

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If you bothered to read my posts properly you would see that I have supplied more proof than that I see them there every day.
Do I need to watch them for 24 hours straight to justify myself to you? It's 8:14am EST and they are botting in Eastern Thanalan right now with busy status set (X27 Y24 & X25 Y24).
The reason I know those 4 bots exist is because I frequent the same area to spiritbond that they are in. Therefore no matter what time of day I choose to log in, those 4 bots are online in the same exact locations cycling the same rotation of skills with their egis/chocobos. They don't respond, they don't move. If you open trade with them they don't react other than by cycling mob targets. If you hold a trade window open with them, their pets are all that keep them alive.

I do the monotonous spiritbond and mining grinds. But I also show signs of life. They don't, unless they are turning in their materia and collecting new spiritbond sets, parts of which cannot be automated.

Interesting their spiritbond crafter tried to trade me 1 million gil last night. As if I'd be stupid enough to take it.

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Interesting their spiritbond crafter tried to trade me 1 million gil last night. As if I'd be stupid enough to take it.

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$3 for your silence? lol