Nexus Vs Relic

Now that Nexus is out, after thinking about it for a bit, it seems to be a pretty pathetic addition to the novus quest.


I wanted to make this post to compare the content between Nexus/Novus vs Relic.


Relic Content
-find the timeless weapon
-craft + meld weapon
-Hydra
-Chimera
-AK dungeon run
-killing 24 mobs
-killing 3 HM primals


Conclusion: Hydra, Chimera are unique content for Relic only. There's an element of crafting involved, there is a decent 24 mob kill grind, and then at the end, there are 3 boss challenges. Pretty nice conceptually.


Zenith/Atma/Animus/Novus/Nexus (btw when will you run out of names? :P )

Zenith – pay Myth (by grinding old content)
Atma - grind FATEs for Atmas (old content)
Animus – dungeons, FATEs, Mobs, Leves (old content)
Novus – infuse 75 materias onto scroll then onto weapon (by grinding Daily EX DR, Myth, basically old content)

Nexus – do content (do any of the current + old content!)

Does that sum it up?

tl;dr Everything after Relic has no new content. Is this some project for a group of interns?

That's pretty much been the point of relics. A means to get people to keep running the old content and keep it relevant, so that the newer players that actually need this older content for progression have people to run them with.

If you want to do "new content" to get top-tier weaponry, that's what Allagan weapons have been for.

Well the Nexus gives us flexibility at least, choice. On top of that, it only increases the weapon damage, it's the equivalent of the Animus. Upon reading the patch notes, there's mention of getting back your scroll for the next stage of the relic so I reckon it will be the same as going from Aniums>Novus. Another reason to be able to farm alexandrite from FATEs and not just for redistribution of points.

Biggest problem I have with the nexus addition is the time involvement.

25x ST runs got someone 1% progress.
Assume ST takes roughly 40-60mins.
This is roughly 2000 hours of grinding recycled content.
If you were do to this back to back, no sleep, no food, no work - you would be running ST for over 100 days straight.

The fact that Nexus is just a color change for the glow AGAIN makes the team designing the gear look lazy or just plain don't care. You'd think with everything we threw into our relics (blood, materia, souls, etc), said relics would at least change in shape.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

The fact that Nexus is just a color change for the glow AGAIN makes the team designing the gear look lazy or just plain don't care. You'd think with everything we threw into our relics (blood, materia, souls, etc), said relics would at least change in shape.

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from what i gathered on patch notes, stat bump as well >.>

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Originally Posted by Altena

Biggest problem I have with the nexus addition is the time involvement.

25x ST runs got someone 1% progress.
Assume ST takes roughly 40-60mins.
This is roughly 2000 hours of grinding recycled content.
If you were do to this back to back, no sleep, no food, no work - you would be running ST for over 100 days straight.

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1% how were they able to tell? Does the portrait through the Zodiac start looking a little different?

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Originally Posted by CoolCat

1% how were they able to tell? Does the portrait through the Zodiac start looking a little different?

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Some guy on reddit. Possibly a troll, as I can't imagine someone completing that many ST runs since the patch went live.

So nexus doesn't give stat increase?

They mentioned currently Nexus will be slow progress since it is still in new release stage. As time in FF14 goes by the amount of points gained from performing content to obtain a Nexus will increase making it easier to obtain a Nexus.

However, i don't think they mentioned how much increase it was nor the time it takes for the Nexus points to start increasing.

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Originally Posted by Altena

Some guy on reddit. Possibly a troll, as I can't imagine someone completing that many ST runs since the patch went live.

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It will be a troll yea. Once you hit the first stage where your relic has "indistinct activity" you're 10% done. People have already got this all figured out it seems.

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Originally Posted by Altena

Biggest problem I have with the nexus addition is the time involvement.

25x ST runs got someone 1% progress.
Assume ST takes roughly 40-60mins.
This is roughly 2000 hours of grinding recycled content.
If you were do to this back to back, no sleep, no food, no work - you would be running ST for over 100 days straight.

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unless i missed something, the patch hasn't even been up for 24 hours. calling BS on 25 ST runs.

If I got light for every time someone cried about this quest, I would have 6 nexus weapons by now.

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Originally Posted by myahele

So nexus doesn't give stat increase?

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Nexus:
http://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/fe0462845fb/
Novus
http://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/1811df917b3/

+2wpd, +2str, +2vit and stronger autoattack, ofc substats are not seen

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Originally Posted by Altena

Biggest problem I have with the nexus addition is the time involvement.

25x ST runs got someone 1% progress.
Assume ST takes roughly 40-60mins.
This is roughly 2000 hours of grinding recycled content.
If you were do to this back to back, no sleep, no food, no work - you would be running ST for over 100 days straight.

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he got the 1st upgrade on his glasses doesn't mean he's at 1%, SE didn't bother with 100 different visible step.


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Originally Posted by an other forum

You need 2000 Light on your weapon to finish soul attunement. The first picture was with the value of light set at 1999. It is obviously not enough.
I'll update these values as I figure out more but so far:

so far:
Feeble: 1 Light
Gentle: 4 Light
Bright: ?
Brilliant: ?
Blinding: 8 Light
Newborn Star: ?


Tiers:

'No Activity': 0 - 199
'Indisctinct Activity': 200-399
'Faint Activity': 400-599
'Slight Activity': 600-799
'Modest Activity': 800-999
'Distinct Activity': 1000-1199
'Robust Activity': 1200-1399
'Vigorous Activity': 1400-1599
'Intense Activity': 1600-1799
'Extreme Activity': 1800-1999
'Bursting Activity': 2000+ (Complete)

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also if you need 40+min to clear ST your alliance is bad / not a novus farming alliance

I just wish they'd kept the upgrades both interesting and unique instead of giving us mindless grinds. The initial relic quest is full of different tasks, and keeps things interesting as a result. Doing the same darned grind just gets boring quickly.

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Originally Posted by Taei

Zenith/Atma/Animus/Novus/Nexus (btw when will you run out of names? :P )

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Neverus!

Haha im so funny today, im on fire!

did ppl expect to get nexus in 2 days, or something?
they have been steadily increasing the time it would require, to upgrade.
if it wasn't for materias being sellable, Novus would have taken forever.
Nexus doesn't involve sellable items, therefor it will take a long time...and next step is going to be twice as long, at least...count on it.
Relic has always been a long term project, and will stay that way.
Supposedly relics will eventually be the best weps you can get, though.