OT Tips

Hey, basically a fairly new paladin here and just want some tips/the low down on off tanking. Mostly on primals and 8 man dungeons etc.

This is the jist of what I have observed so far while tanking or healing tanks:

Ifrit: stun eruptions
Garuda: adds
Titan: fodder?
Mog: boss or pld/war adds
Levi: one end
Ramuh: no idea
CT: adds, towers
St: adds
Story: adds

I'm mostly concerned about off tanking ifrit, I'm an awful stunner, went in first time being OT got called useless by a smn at the end, went back in and stunned everything at the cost of not hitting much, walked out with 2 comm (did I do it right?) and Titan or bosses like him, I just feel like bait if the mt dies .-.

Any tips and general stratagys welcome :)

Based on what you put I'm going to assume you me HM primals so tips to keep in mind
Ifrit: you stun eruptions tho he gets stun res every 3-4 stuns and will be immune for 3-4 so I usually if I get Ifrit for roulette stun in the beginning for 2 sets then don't stun again till after hell fire when the eruptions actually hurt mainly the one just before the full arena plume so ppl make it to stack. As long as other players don't stun you can keep it for when you need.
Garuda: just adds nothing hard
Titan put on dps accessory and play a dps unless the mt sucks or heals do you will have no issues.
Mog: mt on king and it grabs both adds in Hm that isn't a issue they don't hit hard enough to not tank them both
Levi HM: it gets tail and stun locks the wave tooth( or waves spine bad with names the caster add)
Ramuh Hm: same as Titan you just dps and help with mechanics.

When you get to EX and coil it's a completely diff game you will have more to do somewhat.

Thanks :) I'll do some more primals tomorrow morning and practice.

Yeah I've ran into dps stunning and then I've taken the blame for not stunning (because resist) at the end :/ though I did manage to pacify ifrits full room plume when I was mt once, all the moons in the galaxy aligned or something for that to happen.

Don't think I'll be taking my tank to coil or ex, taking my healer in those for now, I'll watch from a distance and see what the tanks do before I think of taking them through, that's how I learned some of the basic stuff on bosses for when I started tanking.

if you have time, watch some video guides online too!

that will help you get a better picture of what needs to be done as a tank/dps/healer.

Fellow noob tank here. Ifrit is fairly simple, stun as soon as the bar pops up, and only auto attack in-between. Garuda however.... I really have troubles with her. I just can't figure out WHERE to tank the adds. No matter what I do or where I go, a dps/healer ends up being close to her and gets AoE to death. Even when I tank with my back straight against the vortex. Not cool.

But otherwise, I guess it's pretty straightforward.

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Originally Posted by ItaruKarin

Fellow noob OT here. Ifrit is fairly simple, stun as soon as the bar pops up, and only auto attack in-between. Garuda however.... I really have troubles with her. I just can't figure out WHERE to tank the adds. No matter what I do, a dps/healer ends up being close to her and gets AoE to death. Not cool.

But otherwise, I guess it's pretty straightforward.

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I always see ot taking the sisters to Garuda with the mt although this does turn things into a kind of blender, just as long as the casters stay out the middle of it. If I'm healing that or on my smn I'll say "ill virus suprana" etc. If your tanking and the blender is causing issues ask your healers and smn to virus them once you pull them over, they usually die just after virus finishes if your dps is good.

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Originally Posted by ItaruKarin

I just can't figure out WHERE to tank the adds. No matter what I do or where I go, a dps/healer ends up being close to her and gets AoE to death. Even when I tank with my back straight against the vortex. Not cool.

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I've been doing this fight pretty much only as MNK lately, but there's really only so much you can do. You're coming across a mix of people who're geared enough to be lazy about it, people too new to know better, and people trying to stick to the old ways (and more than one old way, for that matter). I still see most OTs taking their add(s) to the intersection of the tornadoes, basically directly south of the MT's spot, which leaves the traditional safe spot in the west for healers etc. Whether the rest of the healers etc. take advantage of that safe spot, or whether the other add gets pulled into it, is sort of hit or miss.

I think it depends of what content you are aiming, these days Hard Mode is pretty easy and can be done solo tanking or a dps acts as a tank midfight. As an off tank for this trials you could focus on being a DPS tank.
If you are doing extreme content, there is a specific role you'll required to fullfil, tank chirada, voke spiney, switch at 2 stack debuff, take adds, be close to a dps to not diminish his dmg.
In any case, always have some accesories which can change your vit-dmg settings.

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

Could be a premade farm group with a few extra spaces that queued in DF, ran into a couple of those, hate them, I just feel like some item they needed to have to get in and not a useful party member. Good you got your weapon though :)

I've had Garuda DF groups that burn her down just after the sisters and some that had her repeate that sister phase 2-3 times ._.

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Yeah, I actually think it probably has less to do with farming, and more to do with how severely overgeared the top end of the gear spectrum is for the hard mode primals, and the past few months or so it's become really easy to get up there.

Hell, the relic weapon's become the long sloggy grind to 110, taking months of playing 2+ hours a day, while you can get a 110 soldiery weapon in ~3-4 weeks (depending on whether or not you want to do hunts) once you've got the gear to make it through expert roulette and syrcus tower, and are willing to spend a few hours a week on those things

People farm them for the skins for glamoir or to trade in for seals I think.

Oh, I guess those are both good points.

I was thinking desynth too, after I posted. Although I'm not really sure how valuable any of the high level desynth mats are.

You ran in a DF with overgeared people. Happens all the time with Hard Mode Trials, at some point Extreme content become like this, so enjoy before it gets nerfed!

Folks will be farming HM primals for Nexus light for a while now, too.