Summoner level up = pet change

Look at AION pet when Summoner level up :

http://i.imgur.com/R8RzuTR.jpg

Can we have this in FFXIV ARR when developers unlock the current max level?

Ain't happening.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team. As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

Ain't happening.

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message from 08 october 2013, and they "continue to take in our feedback", so .... why not

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Originally Posted by Evangelus

message from 08 october 2013, and they "continue to take in our feedback", so .... why not

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continue to take in our feedback when designing new egi in the future.

I've never seen people this riled up about summoners. Nobody ever cares (or uses) them usually.

Egis are cute. Pet 'em.

Sure growing bigger would be cool, but I'd honestly prefer if they made the egi look at least like its primal.
Example being make titan take on the browner appearance of the titan ex adds, least they actualy look like titan

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Originally Posted by Evangelus

message from 08 october 2013, and they "continue to take in our feedback", so .... why not

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Go on, keep reading:

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

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The answer is no

Let take a moment to reiterate what Madoka said yesterday:

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Originally Posted by Madoka

The answer is no

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You have over 4000 posts. I'm sure you're very well aware of the numbers of wasted threads created on this topic just to waste another on it.

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Originally Posted by Estevo

That dev response wasn't thought out at all, you shouldn't use it as a reference.

I mean really, do you think it's going to help if Leviathan looks like a GOD of an egi while Garuda still looks like a happy meal toy?

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People asked. They answered. Why double back for such a minor change? When they have more important matters to attend to? I refuse to believe you are not a rational person.

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Just looking at that picture makes me want to leave ff14 and go to Aion, it looks more like a primal than any egi we got.

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You the bad thing about Spiritmaster? Everyone, their mothers, grandparents, and their dogs are out to kill you. All you want to do it be a tamer, but you might as well have a target painted right on your face.

Aside: I never cared for *any* lore in Aion so I have no idea how Spiritmasters tame and control their pets. Except that they are the same flavour as FFXIV Summoner. DoT class. Pet sidekick. No pet = bad dps.

One can hope, but it doesn't seem likely. Should the day ever come though I'll be pleasantly surprised. In all honestly, I love the lore behind Summoner and actually like that our Egis differ in appearance than the Primals. I think aesthetically it would be worse to see miniature Ifrits and Titans floating around.

With that said, however, I think Summoner is in desperate need of some... pizzazz. It bothers me that you can differentiate a high level Black Mage or White Mage due to the flashiness or impact of their spells, yet, there is little to discern a high level Summoner from one who just unlocked their Ifrit-Egi. I feel as though once our power grows, we should be able to control a more formidable looking pet.

Dream big!

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Originally Posted by Estevo

That dev response wasn't thought out at all, you shouldn't use it as a reference.

I mean really, do you think it's going to help if Leviathan looks like a GOD of an egi while Garuda still looks like a happy meal toy?

They clearly weren't thinking clearly when they responded

Also how can people not support an ideal like that!? Just looking at that picture makes me want to leave ff14 and go to Aion, it looks more like a primal than any egi we got.

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Because you don't like an answer, it doesn't make said answer any less valid.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

You the bad thing about Spiritmaster? Everyone, their mothers, grandparents, and their dogs are out to kill you. All you want to do it be a tamer, but you might as well have a target painted right on your face.

Aside: I never cared for *any* lore in Aion so I have no idea how Spiritmasters tame and control their pets. Except that they are the same flavour as FFXIV Summoner. DoT class. Pet sidekick. No pet = bad dps.

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There is no crazy lore behind Spiritmasters on AION. It's your generic "they tap into the aether and summon forth manifestations of the elements to aid them in battle". On top of that, I don't think I ever saw anyone use anything other than the Earth pet so they could Spirit Substitution and laugh at you. Almost the same as everyone using Garuda here.

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Originally Posted by Adamantium

There is no crazy lore behind Spiritmasters on AION. It's your generic "they tap into the aether and summon forth manifestations of the elements to aid them in battle". On top of that, I don't think I ever saw anyone use anything other than the Earth pet so they could Spirit Substitution and laugh at you. Almost the same as everyone using Garuda here.

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NcSoft buffed SM. You used to see Fire Spirit, and Wind Spirit. But they gave pet run speed, so now Earth pet runs as fast as Wind used to. You basically have be to pants-on-head retarded not to have Earth Spirit out 100% of the time. Not to mention the 20s Spirit Sub with a 3m CD. Incentive NOT to use other pets.

NcSoft is best company. SM is fair and balanced.

The problem with the Summoner in Final Fantasy XIV is the same with the class/job system in general they are not creative and they are oversimplified and boring because they designed them around the average player skill instead of the potential of the class/job which causes people to either play this game as their secondary mmo just for raiding or quit all together and play some other MMO that has more complexity ie Elder Scrolls Online and Warframe cause they are fun.

Elder Scrolls Online all skilles evolve based on use and the Pet evolves separately from the player based on how often players use their summon.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

The problem with the Summoner in Final Fantasy XIV is the same with the class/job system in general they are not creative and they are oversimplified and boring because they designed them around the average player skill instead of the potential of the class/job which causes people to either play this game as their secondary mmo just for raiding or quit all together and play some other MMO that has more complexity ie Elder Scrolls Online and Warframe cause they are fun.

Elder Scrolls Online all skilles evolve based on use and the Pet evolves separately from the player based on how often players use their summon.

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Ah, about time. I guess you couldn't resist a +1 on the DPS forums after that signature OP you left in the General section. By the way, I have a coworker who played Elder Scrolls and he said that you are capped at 5 abilities/skills you can during battle. How is ARR oversimplified when compared to this?

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

Ah, about time. I guess you couldn't resist a +1 on the DPS forums after that signature OP you left in the General section. By the way, I have a coworker who played Elder Scrolls and he said that you are capped at 5 abilities/skills you can during battle. How is ARR oversimplified when compared to this?

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It's not. It's Akiza making yet another statement that makes no sense at all.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

People asked. They answered. Why double back for such a minor change? When they have more important matters to attend to? I refuse to believe you are not a rational person.

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That last part of your sentence doesn't add up for me... also improving on what you already have is just as important as adding more to what you have, although I'm aware as to why they want more content right now.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

You the bad thing about Spiritmaster? Everyone, their mothers, grandparents, and their dogs are out to kill you. All you want to do it be a tamer, but you might as well have a target painted right on your face.

Aside: I never cared for *any* lore in Aion so I have no idea how Spiritmasters tame and control their pets. Except that they are the same flavour as FFXIV Summoner. DoT class. Pet sidekick. No pet = bad dps.

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I don't know a thing about Aion either, but just based on that evolution system for the pets, their pet system is already leagues better than ours, oh trust me, the flavour is NOT the same, at all.

So what if everybody wants to kill me, I'll put up with ANYTHING for a class with amazing design.

While there is certainly a great resistance when a dev/rep posts against an idea, it is not a guarantee for all time. As has been proven in the past.

There are many pet classes in mmos and I find the current egis to be the disappointing ones of the bunch (visually), even if ARR in general has superior graphics and aesthetics.

I loved playing SMN due to its visuals in XI. Even though 99% Didn't want it in their PT(Pre AB-scrubs) And it was a rare sight to see someone with the class @ Lv 75(Just with BST)
Once i had my Early access i logged it, created a char -> Arcanist, i was ecstatic to be playing a SMN class again on Final Fantasy, How ever i soon realized after unlocking SMN how ugly the EGI's were. And beyond that how we turned into a dot class.
But lets not talk about that now, The fact that the EGIs in my opinion are now (Visualy) Just ugly as hell i mean, a floating body with a (Geni) like bottom?

One of the reasons why my SMN is 50 and i switched to other classes and never looked back.

Just looking at the differences of the summoner pets between XI and XIV, they reeeeally made XIV summoner look like they're summoning those elemental pets <-,<- Even then, I think FFXI's elemental pets looked better than the Egi ones of XIV. Sad.

Very very sad.

It would be like giving Dragoon a wyvern quest at level 50, and the wyvern looks like a 16-bit green bat from the SNES.

How they look right now is insulting to summoners. I'm hoping that they either get a rework or change their appearance as the level cap increases. Perhaps this is the "egi" line, and once the level cap increases there will be a higher tier group.

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Originally Posted by NeverYolo

Just looking at the differences of the summoner pets between XI and XIV, they reeeeally made XIV summoner look like they're summoning those elemental pets <-,<- Even then, I think FFXI's elemental pets looked better than the Egi ones of XIV. Sad.

Very very sad.

It would be like giving Dragoon a wyvern quest at level 50, and the wyvern looks like a 16-bit green bat from the SNES.

How they look right now is insulting to summoners. I'm hoping that they either get a rework or change their appearance as the level cap increases. Perhaps this is the "egi" line, and once the level cap increases there will be a higher tier group.

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Like I said in the first page:

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team. As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

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