Advanced Macro question.

Hailz,
So, Im getting into some complicated macro designing, and was wondering, once a user macro is built does it have an ID, like any other skill?

For instance, it is known we can use:
/chotbar set "Cure" 4 RAL <--- sets Cure skill to hotbar 4, [right shoulder] + [square]

Is it possible for:
/chotbar set "14" 4 RAL <--- sets user macro ID 14 to hotbar 4, [right shoulder] + [square]
/chotbar set "Userdefined" 4 RAL <--- sets macro named "Userdefined" skill to hotbar 4, [right shoulder] + [square]
?

If so, what is the proper method of IDing the usermacro?
Tried:
"##"
"user defined name"

Thanks for reading.

I've been trying this for my crafting macros, since you can only add so many command lines.

As far as I know it's not possible as your macro name does not become a registered skill name.

thanks. have you placed a suggestion through the support desk, by any chance? if so, i'd like to second it. if not, i'll submit.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

I've been trying this for my crafting macros, since you can only add so many command lines.

As far as I know it's not possible as your macro name does not become a registered skill name.

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If there's a way to reference macros during other macros, I haven't found it either.

Which is a shame, because I could condense my three-macro-long crafting into one button press.

This is intended. It's in order to prevent players from creating looping macros and keep the line limit relevant.
So, no, you can't call a macro with another one (or with itself).

This is also why there is no macro command allowing you to call an action by refering to its location on your shortcut bars.

The devs would probably not make this possible for the user, at least in its simplest form.

If any macro could activate any other macro, then you could have a situation where MacroA activates MacroB activates MacroA ad infinitum.

However, they might be able to implement a system where they limit under what conditions a macro can be activated by another macro. In such a system, you might be able to have MacroA activating MacroB, MacroC, and MacroD, but not MacroA activating MacroB activating MacroA or MacroA activating MacroB activating MacroC.

The real problem here is the possibility of recursion or an extended list of scripted actions. If either was possible, then a user could practically create a system of macros to perform their entire combat rotation with a single button-press, which the devs do not want. Although this is already possible via "botting", the devs would not want to create a system native to the game where "botting" is possible.

From a development standpoint, it would probably be better to just not allow this.

Or, for a shorter answer, look at Fyce's post.

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Okay, apparently this has more to do with assigning macros to hotbar locations.

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Originally Posted by Myvar

The real problem here is the possibility of recursion or an extended list of scripted actions. If either was possible, then a user could practically create a system of macros to perform their entire combat rotation with a single button-press, which the devs do not want.

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Not a single button press, but multiple presses of the same button. This is already possible (up to 8 layers, using the cross hotbar (CHB)) through the use of hotbar switching. How?

CHB1
/ac "Fast Blade"
/chotbar change 2

CHB2
/ac "Savage Blade"
/chotbar change 3

CHB3
/ac "Rage of Halone"
/chotbar change 1

Using the above macros on CHBs 1-3, all on the same CHB slot, you effectively make all 3 skills in chain under the same button. As for all the other slots, they can be identical across all CHBs, giving the appearance of being static.

The question/suggestion would only remove the 8 chotbar cap, and implement a100 user macro cap, and free up a lot of hotbars.

The request isn't about macros calling other macros. It's about macros placing macros on a hotbar.

This isn't a situation where you press 1 and you loop through infinite abilities.

It's where you press 1 and a slot somewhere on your hotbar changes. You still have to hit that button to get the macro you've just placed in it to fire.

And, like OP said, you can already achieve exactly the same effect by switching/copying hotbars back and forth. It just takes up a ton of hotbar space and is much more of a pain to work with than it would be letting macros assign macros to individual hotbar spaces.

Quite right, Bixby.

Currently i'm using all 8 CHBs for targeting/cycling through party members with (1-8) variations of:

/target <3>
/chotbar change 3

It would be much easier to use one CHB with slot variations of:

/target <3>
/chotbar set 1 "14" RAL

As this is already seconded, I'd like to third it. I'd like to be able to throw all of my gearset switches on a single crossbar, with a couple toggles that change which classes appear on the bar.

I've already requested this a few times myself, though I don't see this happening.

I mean, I'd love if we could at least set macros using the crosshotbar/hotbar set commands, but we don't even have that, lol.

I hope that they give us another macro page when ninja comes out though, I'm out of macro slots.

This is being suggested, but it doesnt look as though people have noticed and given it the support it deserves. If it's still in your cross-hairs, please go voice support.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...os-with-hotbar

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Originally Posted by radioactive_lego

Not a single button press, but multiple presses of the same button. This is already possible (up to 8 layers, using the cross hotbar (CHB)) through the use of hotbar switching. How?

CHB1
/ac "Fast Blade"
/chotbar change 2

CHB2
/ac "Savage Blade"
/chotbar change 3

CHB3
/ac "Rage of Halone"
/chotbar change 1

Using the above macros on CHBs 1-3, all on the same CHB slot, you effectively make all 3 skills in chain under the same button. As for all the other slots, they can be identical across all CHBs, giving the appearance of being static.

The question/suggestion would only remove the 8 chotbar cap, and implement a100 user macro cap, and free up a lot of hotbars.

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The problem with doing this is if you press the skill too soon, it will switch the bar to the next one without using the action.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

The problem with doing this is if you press the skill too soon, it will switch the bar to the next one without using the action.

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Yes, the combat implications of this may be very fault and limited, but most people here I think are not trying to perform rotation skills with this system. If they are.. well.. I don;t think its a good idea

Yep, I want this too. I want to build a crossbar set macro so I could use just one crossbar for each SCH fairy and have it slurp the skills to the ability slots. I want to put certain macros on each since I micromanage each fairy differently. Not possible and I don't see why. :/ I'm hoping a dev can at least weigh in as to why not. I've seen folks post the botting argument before, but I really don't see how that applies in this instance.

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Originally Posted by Sadana

... I've seen folks post the botting argument before, but I really don't see how that applies in this instance.

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Agreed. This only removes the 8 chain crosshotbar cap and istitutes a 100 chain macro cap (and frees up the hotbars).

Because this:

http://i.imgur.com/AZ1fnzT.gif

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Originally Posted by Sadana

Yep, I want this too. I want to build a crossbar set macro so I could use just one crossbar for each SCH fairy and have it slurp the skills to the ability slots. I want to put certain macros on each since I micromanage each fairy differently. Not possible and I don't see why. :/ I'm hoping a dev can at least weigh in as to why not. I've seen folks post the botting argument before, but I really don't see how that applies in this instance.

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That doesn't seem like it'd be very hard. You could set up two crossbars and save them to a crafter/gatherer or even arcanist. Be on Scholar, set up the bar the way you want it. Then use:

/crosshotbar copy sch 1 wvr 1

This will save the exact bar to weavers first action bar. Then you can recall it with:

/crosshotbar copy wvr 1 sch 1

Then you just need to make a second Scholar bar the way you want it set up with the other fairy. Then use:

/crosshotbar copy sch 1 wvr 2

Then make a macro for

/crosshotbar copy wvr 1 sch 1 (For Selene)

and another:

/crosshotbar copy wvr 2 sch 1 (For Eos)

and just click them whenever you want to switch fairies.

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Originally Posted by Barboron

Because this:

http://i.imgur.com/AZ1fnzT.gif

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That. Is already a thing! Do you people read? The suggestion frees up hotbars, and allows improved targeting options. That is all.

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Originally Posted by radioactive_lego

That. Is already a thing! Do you people read? The suggestion frees up hotbars, and allows improved targeting options. That is all.

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Ahhhh the good ol' forums. People with no sense of humour. Keep it up!

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