FATE timers and Daily Hunts

There is absolutely no reason why FATE-based daily mobs should require people to stand around for 1-3 hours waiting for a FATE to spawn so that they can complete 1 part of their daily. Either remove FATE mobs from the daily hunt altogether, or decrease the respawn rate to no more than 30 minutes for these FATES. The best thing to do would be to set the timers to somewhere between 5-10 minutes. It is completely unacceptable for players to have to sit and wait for these FATES in zones where they have nothing else they can do. It is too risky to leave the zone because the FATE might pop while they're gone, then they'll have to wait even longer.

This is seriously disappointing. You're making your paying customers sit and do nothing. They can't progress in the game. They just have to wait for 2-3 hours every day.

I completely agree, so many of my my friends are bieing put of the game because it is so heavy and grinding and farming. and now we need sit a wait for hours just to get out daily hunt. It is really off putting. I only have time for a couple hours after work, and most of my time is used up just sitting around an waiting. reduce the times, or atleast allow the players to be notified so they are not waiting around...too much time wasted

Completely agree, a good friend quit the game as she was sick of waiting on fate spawns for animus/hunt,
For a week she was sat in sylph lands , for 2-3 hours a night waiting for a fate to spawn that never did.
She then sent a long email to say sorry she loves the game but this is too much of a block and she will come back if that ever changes
Is sad as she is such a dedicated player but I can see why it would get to you, happening for the week.
Grats SE you lost her as a player due to poor implementation of the animus and hunt fates

I don't get why they can't do a system check, X fate no link to quests or possible dailies, equals normal timer,
Y fate connected to both hunt dailies and animus, equals respawn every 15mins, similar to how beast fates, ST fates and Hildibrand zombie fate does

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Originally Posted by Gerolan

Completely agree, a good friend quit the game as she was sick of waiting on fate spawns for animus/hunt,
For a week she was sat in sylph lands , for 2-3 hours a night waiting for a fate to spawn that never did.

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Did that happen to be The Enemy of My Enmity? There's a guy who hides in the bushes you have to talk to in order to kick it. I found him accidentally doing a hunt. I too would sit in the East Shroud and finally the fate would pop. I never knew why it was so rare. Well, because the icon to kick the dang fate off is relatively hidden and the darned character is crouching under a bush! My curiosity kicked the fate and the next thing I knew, there were a bunch of folks shouting "Don't finish that fate!" I was like, "I'm not running it! Don't care! LOL" I had done it for my Animus, and I was 100% not going to do it again. It's a pain. Don't kill the Sylphs then kill the Sylphs. But I digest...

If she's looking to kick it, the guy is usually crouched in the north west side of the area where the fate Magitek Menace is. She may already know this, but just in case, I thought I might try to help. There's a Sylphan Screech and Sylphan Sigh or something like that hanging near him. The Sigh was one of my daily hunt marks that day.

As far as the dailies go, now that the B's pop every 5 seconds, let them be the daily hunt and turn fates into weekly. I can sit around and wait a while once a week, but I waited for the giant tortoise and Diamond something or rather so long, I just shit-canned the hunt book. Wasn't going to make it that high on my priority list.

@-EricCartmenez - I don't remember it's name but wasn't a click npc one, was a named sylph. It popped once and she 90k out so didn't get to finish it, I think that might of been the "I quit" moment.
I agree fate ones shouldn't be dailies, unless their timers get changed it's not feasible to have two fate dailies that can possibly take hours each to spawn.
Dailies are meant to be quick like beast tribes, not take hours.
Just wish I didn't have to lose such a good friend in game due to such a poorly implemented system

Oh that's the Sylph bosses that sit in the north west, center, and east of the map. Yeah, they actually pop more often than you might think. I had one of them as well. The key to getting fates to pop more in given areas is to farm the others and keep the area free of fates. That's a double-edged sword because as you're making things happen quicker, some other ass-hat is sitting there, waiting and finishes the fate that YOU worked hard to make happen. Personally, I think fates in the animus book are redundant. We did 'em already, damn it! Give us a friggin' break! Run through the Sylphlands where every douche-bag mob has got heavy or slow to cast on you, then you have to find a spot to keep your character in case you have to step away or they'll get killed. The second you step away to get a soda or coffee, the fate pops and is done as you're on the way to the controller. Ugh. You want it for helping people? Fine, make it pop more often or give a low level dungeon. As a noob (and I guess I still am), I always wondered why someone with such high level gear was stuck in a level 25 dungeon or killing fucking lady bugs with me. Argh! Instead of helping me, I usually got shit for XP because I couldn't get a shot in before the party of experts blew everything away. :D

Yah I had the doubled edge sword with one fate in Coerthas, giant saps, was waiting ages no spawn, so went off to kill other spawns, it popped and died before I could get to it, asked in shout when I saw it spawn, that if anyone doing it please don't go all out and wait a minute.
With a response "suck it up and next time learn to camp" ofc was long dead by time I got there and I wasn't even that far away

Now that's awful, seriously. I was fighting Naul (remember when he mattered?) within a few yalms of Seps and some butt nozzles ran past me and knocked down Seps before a B mark could die! Wow, such proof that I would be worthy to wield the Animus sword! LOL

I got it the next day. I just did gathering leve quests in the area until it popped. Luckily, I was able to switch characters, warm up the actions, and kill Seps. The whole thing about needing fates for animus is ridiculous anyway. Come up with a whole line of dungeons we can only run with the Zenith weapon! Make the people who are getting Zenith work together. You can only fight these with Zenith. You can only fight these with an animus. To get people to re-run them, give them something worth getting. Allied Seals, armor, gil, weapons... Anything. Shoot, people can get 80 tomes of mythology for a few seconds worth of work in a hunt, let's make this go!

It has become even worse thanks to the Lightning Event. There is a FATE in Lower La Noscea with a big fat bird (dunno the English name of the FATE). This one can be chosen as a daily hunt mark for 10 seals AND it provides loot for one of the Lightning FATES. But the Lightning event FATE doesn't count as a reward towards the Hunt mark. Although you see the mob marked, the monster remains as unsolved in the daily hunt book after the FATE is over.

So it is sitting there, waiting for it to appear and then hoping it is not the Lightning version. This is ABSURD for a so called daily quest. I could spend my entire evening with the 2 FATES involved if I wanted to do them each day. Just not counting as daily in my book. Hell, I can do the six Ixali quests in merely an hour, can do any of the other beast tribe quests in under an hour, can do my daily roulette in under an hour but hey, SE thinks waiting 2 hours for a FATE is good for another daily?

Most of the time I throw the daily hunt book away when I am done with the random trash mobs. Why they did not take 3 B-rank mobs for the daily Hunt is just beyond me. No, FATES, FATES and moar FATES. Great Hunt!

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

It has become even worse thanks to the Lightning Event. There is a FATE in Lower La Noscea with a big fat bird (dunno the English name of the FATE). This one can be chosen as a daily hunt mark for 10 seals AND it provides loot for one of the Lightning FATES. But the Lightning event FATE doesn't count as a reward towards the Hunt mark. Although you see the mob marked, the monster remains as unsolved in the daily hunt book after the FATE is over.

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Same thing for me yesterday! Went to Swiftperch, killed Glutenous Gertrude and got a drop (which I didn't need!) and no credit for killing that stupid bird (which I needed!). Come on, SE, it's not that hard to provide credit for both. Heck, I've had to discard more of those packages than I could use.

SE loves to waste our time. FATEs are stupid and SE wants the game to revolve around them.

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Originally Posted by EricCartmenez

Same thing for me yesterday! Went to Swiftperch, killed Glutenous Gertrude and got a drop (which I didn't need!) and no credit for killing that stupid bird (which I needed!). Come on, SE, it's not that hard to provide credit for both. Heck, I've had to discard more of those packages than I could use.

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Yeah same thing, got gold, no credit for hunt, just Lightning drops. Popped again 3 min later, no Lightning, got credit.

If you all think THAT's bad, try getting Brounger & Seps for daily hunts....

Now on to hour four (two nights in row) for tower of power in Coerthas, on bright side, nealry finished watching entire first season of walking dead tonight... /fix it

If I get the hunt package with Seps or that Tortoise in Thanalan, I do the rest and discard it. I also got the Lightning fate pop on top of Gertrude, twice in a row yesterday. Funny/annoying thing was that she appeared both times when the thing was almost dead. Thank god this will be over with on the 10th.

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Originally Posted by Laura_Beinbrech

If you all think THAT's bad, try getting Brounger & Seps for daily hunts....

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Had it yesterday. Knowing the Seps is an ultra rare one and not having ever heard of Brounger made me throw away the book directly after I completed the 3 random mobs. Did not even try to look once in both areas because often, when I start with something, the Nerd in me wants to get it done, no matter if it makes sense or not lol. Shame, the Officials respond to many things asked here on the Forums but as soon as it is about ATMA's and FATES for quests, they remain silent. I can't understand why 2 of the hottest topics available are totally ignored.

They could use presence sensors or something like that, I've already see that in several games and it works. Something like: if 2 or 3 people with the hunt or quest stand around the area they will pop no matter what.

Yes, I am getting very tired of Fates being forced onto me to do anything. As someone who has limited time to play, this is a major turn off for me.

I would just like to thank SE, After staring at my screen for two hours waiting for the Lutin Fate to pop, I realize that I am truly wasting my time with this game now. This is a DAILY hunt and now you have wasted a good part of my day. God forbid I step away for more then 30 seconds in case the fate pops and I miss it. A game should be interactive, not stare at your screen waiting for something to happen. That is enough from me. Have a good life SE and thank you for giving me the time to realize that I need to move on with my life.

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Originally Posted by Laura_Beinbrech

If you all think THAT's bad, try getting Brounger & Seps for daily hunts....

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Daxio !

I have to agree wholeheartedly that waiting for a fate is a gigantic waste of time. The only time I 'park' my character is if I'm eating, reading a magazine, or doing some other thing where the silence is fine and I can listen for the inevitable music to start and let me grab my controller and beat the fate. Otherwise, I might pop into that map to do something else and check periodically if the fate is there or queue up for a daily roulette and I don't want to get busy doing something and miss that. I don't wait long as a healer or tank, so I don't spend a lot of time there either. Still, I can find a B mark several times before most of the fates that they post as dailies make an appearance. That's frustrating at best.

The last post was made in 2014.

It's 2022, and I'm spending time waiting for a Daily Hunt Fate, that other sites claim has a fast respawn rate. I have yet to see it in the past 12 hours.

8 years, and the spawn rates of Daily Hunt Fates hasn't changed.

To be fair, what exactly do you need from this FATE? I'm guessing it is one of those ARR beast tribe FATEs. Considering the exp is pretty poor since it isn't level sync'd, just do what many players did back then: Skip it.

It isn't worth the wait. You'll still get 2/3rd of the reward for the day.

Are you trying to clear other FATEs in the zone while you're waiting? That can help get the one you need to spawn. If other FATEs aren't being cleared it will take that much longer for the one you need to have a chance to spawn.

But as dspguy asks, do you really need to do that FATE? The ARR hunt bills aren't the best design and Allied Seals aren't the most useful to max level characters. I just do the weekly ARR B rank bill and the occasional S rank. Eventually I get to the point where I cap and dump a bunch of the seals into Aetheryte tickets (which I also have far more than I use).

If you mention why you're specifically going after Allied Seals, perhaps we can suggest better ways to accomplish your goal.