Help with SMN

Hey all so I main a BLM however my SMN is geared pretty much the same in case a raid my static and I do need an extra person to rez. However, my luck in getting weapon drops was kind of bad for A LONG while and only recently was able to get Laeventinn for my BLM.

This left my SMN with Omnitome. Not the best weapon to have for SCoB. Thing is, I don't know where to go from this for a better weapon for SMN. Another weathered weapon is out of the question because I need to gear my SCH. (my actual secondary job). And ATMA-Animus-Novus path is out of the question because my current ATMA is going towards BRD and by the time 2.4 drops I'll have gotten a set to use for Ninja.

So my options are running kind of thin. That leaves the Levi, Ramuh, and T5 books. So my question goes to all the SMNs out there---which book is worth getting more.

I'd say, which both would require some massive farming, go for T5. But try for the Ramuh weapon ultimately, more DMG and higher ilvl.

If your only options are Leviathan, Ramuh or the Allagan Grimoire then Ramuh's has the highest stats, since it's the only i100 out of those (unless you upgrade a Wave).
As an additional note; you mentioned that your secondary job is Scholar. Make sure you're using the stat bonuses on Intelligence when you play Summoner because if all you have in the foreseeable future for Summoner is an i100 weapon and on top of that you have your points on anything but INT your DPS is going to be lacking, making the bonus of having an extra raise not very appealing.

Now if I could only beat Ramuh...LOL but alright, I suppose that is the best option I just figured I'd ask anyways since a lot of times players will stick it out with lower weapons because the overall stats of the weapon+gear are better than shooting just for a higher ilvl and a small amount of, for example, INT and VIT.

And yeah, I actually split my points 15/15 between the two. SCH won't take too bad a hit that way since my Crit is high and the job works around shields more than raw healing. And though my SMN won't be groundbreaking at the top of the DPS charts the constant ticking of the DoTs being more powerful than what they would be at 0 added INT is a bonus regardless.

Another thing you will need to consider is where you will be using SMN and whether you be at the accuracy cap. The Omnitome has a huge amount of accuracy and SMN accuracy cap is higher than BLM. I'd stick with Omnitome if you aren't going for an i110 weapon since Magic Damage doesn't scale as much as Weapon Damage it wont be a big deal compared to missing a ton of accuracy.

It's worth noting that the Ramuh book's secondaries (acc and ss) both amount to near 0 actual dps increase. Of those 3 books, the T5 book tends to win just barely in terms of damage. All are fine though and you should focus on which you'd think would be the easiest.

I say go for Tidal Wave Grimoire (it's what I use). It's Levi's drop and you need to get a mirror. Levi Ex can be cleared with DF party more so than T5. The mirror drops sucks, though. I went three weeks without seeing a mirror, but then do a farm party and we get three mirrors in five runs. Ramuh is pain, and is currently my wall. I think Levi is the way to go - it's more accessible than the Allagan book and Ramuh's book. The Wave Grimoire (sans mirror) is still a decent book.

If your alt is SCH, I guess stat allocation is 30 MND. From low ilvl weapon and -30 Int, it will effect to your dps pretty much.
I don't know how high of your overall raid dps but this may lead to another problem, dps check.

Extra rez is handy but only when your gears can compete to the contents.

Ask your raid to stop dying lol.

spades > levi100 > allagan. Wouldn't bother with the others.

Talk your static into farming ST, UAT isn't that rare and if you're running sch, smn and blm for them they should understand you need some more UATs. then just hunt to unweather them.

Honestly, Book of Spades is the best readily available weapon out there for a SMN right now (short of making a Crit/Det Novus - which would give you 13 more CRIT). You'd be better off getting that and getting an alternate weapon for your SCH as some of the primal ones are on par with Book of Diamonds.

Why are people suggesting Spades when he clearly said that anything that requires Soldiery is not going to happen?

^ This ten times over, lol
See what happens when people take time and read.
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To be honest it seems like you're trying to fit 10 pounds of goods into a 5 pound bag. For you and your raid groups progressiveness (is this a word?) I suggest some one else should take care of SMN if it's truely needed. Depending on the turn you need this for (I'm guessing either T8 or 9) you're going to need every bit of DPS and MP conservation you can muster for extremely tight DPS checks. Splitting your stats like that already hinders both jobs, and now you want to hinder a role in the static even more by running with a subpar weapon.

TL;DR- Ask another raid member to gear SMN, or Levi book and mirror is your "best" option.

Aurelle, if all you're going to dedicate is 15 Intelligence to Summoner on top of your other restriction then I'd recommend you stay on Black Mage and not bother. You can still pull it off and do your part, but consider these things:

1) Your damage will already be severely capped due to equipment and stat allotment decisions.
2) A Summoner casting Resurrection takes a noticeable hit on DPS unless it's swiftcasted, and even on certain instances like Turn 3(8), where your MP is so important, the huge chunk of mana that will be gone with that raise will result in a loss no matter what. Add this to the previous point.
3) Scholar does not need those points in Mind for anything in the game right now. The best example of this is the first clear of Turn4(9) by BlueGarter where their Scholar was using his points on Vitality to endure the dives and AoEs (this was a long time ago but I think he was, or was it Turn 5? Regardless, you don't need those points for it.)

So, with this said, I strongly suggest you re-spec to full Intelligence if you are still considering switching.

Thank you for everyone's input. Me subbing as SMN when needed isn't something that is going to be a groundbreaking part of our groups mechanic, just something that would be good as back up if we deem it necessary or find we need to switch things up. Reason I'm doing this is because I already had Arcanist/SMN to level 50 and all my 110 BLM gear can be put straight over to SMN. Hence why I only really wanted an opinion on a weapon--which again thank you all for.

As for my stat allocation--I will be switching this all to INT. Considering how SCH works I agree with you BloodPact and will handle that when I get home from work today. For weapon, I think I'll go to Levi since it is the easiest to farm right now. I'm not worried about Accuracy since with all the gear I DO have stockpiled I can hit cap easily (or may have to eat some food but nothing too major).

Just be aware, if using acc food to cap, the bonus from the food will not translate over to your pet's acc cap.

No problem. :)

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

Why are people suggesting Spades when he clearly said that anything that requires Soldiery is not going to happen?

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Because the other books are poop compared to it and uat weapons are pretty easy to get a hold of now

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Originally Posted by Madoka

Because the other books are poop compared to it and uat weapons are pretty easy to get a hold of now

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Her problem is not the UAT, it's dumping Soldiery on Summoner. This is the second time you fail to comprehend what was written.

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

Her problem is not the UAT, it's dumping Soldiery on Summoner. This is the second time you fail to comprehend what was written.

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There's a difference between comprehension and offering advice that contradicts plans - I was fully aware what the OP stated.

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Originally Posted by stuscott

There's a difference between comprehension and offering advice that contradicts plans - I was fully aware what the OP stated.

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You should state that you knew it. "Even though you said you don't want to use soldiery for smn, consider this:..." to avoid all this mess. Unless you like wasting your posts for that kinda thing, then sure, please continue.

As for OP: Yes I'd advice for Tidal Wave bok cause it has det and acc (if I remember right) and if you have complete 110i set already for blm, you're mostlikely going to be short on acc just the amount the book would give. And because the estimate % of your pet gives to your dps is 30 (so I have heard) not hitting acc cap can highly reduce your overall dps, because as stated already by someone: food bonus doesn't effect pets

Tidal wave book :o