Fun vs. Skill?

I love playing MNK, but kind of suck at it.
I don't like playing BRD, but am really good at it.

My Static wants me to play BRD because my DPS is higher than my MNK, and it's also much more of a safe pick for end game content.

But I just wanna MNK!!!!

Should I just tell the, "Ya know what? Eat my fist; I'm gonna MNK or you guys can kick me."

P.S.

This is also due to the fact I am only 50 SOL from my 110 weapon, and am really trying to decided which class to pick it up for.

Play what you like, and get better at it.

^ This
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Originally Posted by xvshanevx

Should I just tell the, "Ya know what? Eat my fist; I'm gonna MNK or you guys can kick me."

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Terrible attitude to have in regards to this issue, even as a joke.

If your MNK performs poorly, improve it. MNK is not especially difficult so I'm not sure how your BRD is performing significantly better.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

If your MNK performs poorly, improve it. MNK is not especially difficult so I'm not sure how your BRD is performing significantly better.

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Bard is essentially a Monk who can attack at any range and can ignore positional requirements. The learning curve for BRD is much lower than MNK (even if MNK isn't all too complicated itself).

Practice, practice, practice! I loved playing Blm but I was clumsy with my spells and my DPS sucked. I trained a lot and played often on it enough (consistency is important) and I got better. I can put out the numbers of your average Blm several ilvl above me now.
You should be kind to you static and play Bard for now, but just don't give up, get better!

If you like monk, play monk. Just be sure to practice a bit. Read up on the basic rotation, and practice it on training dummies. You'll know you're ready for raiding when you can put a piece of paper (or a book or something) over the part of your screen with your action bars and can still do the rotation, DoTs and all, just fine. Once you know how to do that without having to stare at your bars, you'll have more raid awareness and won't die to silly AoEs. It might take a bit, but a poorly-played monk is pretty depressing to watch. :(

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

You should be kind to you static and play Bard for now, but just don't give up, get better!

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I'd have to agree with this. Do bard but let them know that monk is your priority and that, in the future, you want to raid on that. :) Good luck!!

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Originally Posted by xvshanevx

My Static wants me to play BRD because my DPS is higher than my MNK, and it's also much more of a safe pick for end game content.

But I just wanna MNK!!!!

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My opinion is that this is a video game. If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong.

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Should I just tell them, "Ya know what? Eat my fist; I'm gonna MNK or you guys can kick me."

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No, they're playing the game too and they are also just trying to have fun.
You can, however, say something like "I really like playing monk, I'm sorry I don't fit into the group role here, I'm going to go look for another static if you don't want me anymore."

Don't be mean about it, but you don't have to worry over their feelings either.
If you leave, they'll find another DPS to fill your spot.

So, you have some choices:

Play monk and look for another static (do what you want, but can be hard to find a static you fit in with).
Play monk and try to make it work with this static (practice and get better at monk for them to make it worthwhile for the raid group).
Play bard and stay with the static (learn to love the harp! My mom says it's cool!).

Figure out which one is the way you want to spend your gaming time, and do that.

Have fun!

IMO, play the BRD during raid times *for now*, and level up your MNK in the meantime. With challenge logs, duty finder bonuses, FATE xp, and so on, you should be able to get him/her to 50 pretty quickly. Allied seals will quickly and easily outfit him/her in i90 gear, and getting your zenith is really easy. You can also "greed" lot on MNK gear while on your BRD, such as Syrcus tower gear, unidentified allaghan tomestomes, and so on, to help gear out your MNK at 50.

This is essentially what I did with BRD and DRG, and it's worked out well - I alternate between the 2 based on my mood, what I'm doing (dungeons, hunts, raids), and what my LS mates need. Keeps things from getting too stale, and keeps me appeased :) I'm sure you'll find a similar balance.

500 dps vs 350 dps, u kiddin rite?

what you wanna do (and we all know is true) is play DRG.

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Originally Posted by Empressia

500 dps vs 350 dps, u kiddin rite?

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Yeah, the difference is never going to be that high between both. Monks reaching 500 have another monk Dragon Kicking for them so they can use Bootshine instead and Bards with High Allagan sub 400 DPS are terrible. I agree Monk is better than Bards (obviously) in term of damages but no need to exaggerate numbers either.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

Yeah, the difference is never going to be that high between both. Monks reaching 500 have another monk Dragon Kicking for them so they can use Bootshine instead and Bards with High Allagan sub 400 DPS are terrible. I agree Monk is better than Bards (obviously) in term of damages but no need to exaggerate numbers either.

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There are just many terrible BRDs out there despite the it having the easiest learning curve.

Anyways people tend to be short sighted and look at maximum potential DPS numbers, but however these are under controlled conditions and single target, dummy-like fights like T8/Dummy parses.

In actual situations, most of FFXIV's fights are like playing dodge ball and thus you won't be surprised that BRDs can find themselves top 2 DPS in their team due to their mobility and uptime.

Depends how much you like your group.
If your not very friendly with your group... why are with them anyway?

I don't even think I would want to play with people unwilling to fill the needs of the group.
Waiting for Ninja job killed my static posts (why can we no have 8 ninja coil?)

If you think the "fun vs skill" way then might as well think about your other static members - not sure if they have fun too if you suck at your job. Might end up having the title of "that guy" and other people trying to find reasons why not to do endgame content with you anymore.

From personal experience I use Warrior for fun (and let's say my skill at job could be better). I use WAR in 4 man dungeons or Syrcus. The thing that I truly feel the most is when my team has DPS that deal no damage - because I know how fast that monster usually die and now that ilvl 100 dps is trying to kill it for twice longer. As it doesn't make me mad in dungeon where it doesn't really matter - things are different in Coil and ex modes.

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Originally Posted by Velox

Bard is essentially a Monk who can attack at any range and can ignore positional requirements. The learning curve for BRD is much lower than MNK (even if MNK isn't all too complicated itself).

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BRD may be a little more simple in its' DPS priorities/'rotation', mainly because of the lack of positional requirements, but I don't agree that the learning curve is much lower. Maximizing damage on BRD does take some effort too. Making sure you get off all your BL/ME procs ASAP and watch for SS procs. And in addition to responsibilities on maximizing DPS, BRD has to think about song usage as well. SHOULD be mainly foe's but you may need to ballad if a healer dies. You may want ether pots for emergency ballad situations in addition to dex pots. Unfortunate that they share the same CD. Good to manage song usage in dungeons too. swiftsong and foe's as needed. Ballad after an encounter if a WHM is holy spamming and gets low. BRD/PLD also on silence duties on t9 golems. MNK doesn't really have a reliable silence for such situations.

MNK has its' own difficulties, of course. Both jobs are nice. I do agree that it's easier to just hit some buttons on BRD and run around wherever you'd like and use your songs poorly (or not at all) and feel like you did okay compared to a similarly poor MNK.

Personally I would have more fun being good at one job, than sucking at another.

Also, if my group didn't have a bard, then I would go bard.

If you're not having fun, why even play?

I guess he means less fun.