Getting started in PvP, a couple questions

Hey there, I really need some help if some folks wouldn't mind, I can reward you with lame jokes later if you want?

I'm about to get started in Frontlines grinding tomorrow, did a few games before on my paladin and loved it but it was a pain in the neck to play without getting setup properly

Well this time I've got a plan, but I'm kind of a min/maxxer and I like to do my research beforehand. Unfortunately this game doesn't have as many resources as my last MMO when it comes to research, and I don't have very much time to play everyday so I'm hoping other players here can fill in the gaps for me.

I want to play a White Mage in PvP. Playing this class will be exclusively for PvP, so all my bars, abilities, and stat allocations will be soley aimed to be as good for PvP as possible.

I've got two major questions right now that I could really use help on:

1. What kind of stat allocations should I use? In PvE I just powered up my heals, but I really have no idea what's most important in PvP.

2. How many bars are there that are tied to the specific class I'm playing? I'm asking this because on my Paladin I moved three bars to the center of the screen to watch my cooldowns on, but those same bars with the same abilities stay there on my White Mage. Is there a different bar I could use aside from the first two bars (which are full of important abilities) that I could put at the center of my screen to watch my cooldowns on?

Thanks a ton, I really am coming up empty finding these answers.

I'm a WHM, and I put my stat points in Vitality over Mind specifically for PvP. I also use two ilvl 100 tank pieces on my right side. As a healer, you're at the top of the priority list in most PvP formats so being able to take that random bit of burst damage is important, and not having to worry about constantly healing yourself because you only have 3.5k HP is nice as well. Damage packets in PvP are much smaller than they are in PvE ( not including Limit Breaks ). A Cure1 that heals for 900-1k is generally enough to keep people alive fairly easily unless they're getting focused heavily by a group of people in which case a Benediction may be in order or, Cure2 provided you have time and in some cases, it may be best to just let them die and rez them safely at your location while dispersing that concentrated DPS. < Huge run-on sentence, I know.

For your second question, you can turn those Paladin Hotbars off, and move a few more Hotbars to the same location as your Paladin ones. Then, when you need to switch to the Paladin bars, just turn your healing bars off. This can be done under Character Configuration ( Hotbars ), and HUD layout. It's what I do at least.

Good luck.

this is all u need to know when playing healer in pvp

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/10/103ae...ffb8fd63af.jpg

Honestly, be prepared to be frustrated, especially while you're learning to play a healer in PVP. Not always. Some runs are fine. But, some make you want to scream. I say this because you will always be the number one target. You will also be the one who will have 6 enemies attacking you at once. You will get stunned constantly. You will be put to sleep constantly. You will get chained to an opposing tank constantly, unable to get away.

Thanks a lot for the replies, I'm not at home right now but I will be in a couple hours and will give the hot at thing a shot.

And Copestetic, you say you wear tank pieces? Does that mean you pvp as a conjurer instead of a white Mage? It seems like a brilliant idea, thanks a lot.

I used to pvp arenas and rbgs in wow as a healer and a absolutely loved it. Making that great escape is just so satisfying.

You can wear tank accessories as a white mage, that is what they meant

Conversely for when you play PLD, lose the fending accessories in favor of slaying. If you don't have any, get them. Very little is more useless than a tanky-tank. Good luck! 8D

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Originally Posted by Rikkustrife

You can wear tank accessories as a white mage, that is what they meant

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Thank you very much for clarifying this

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Originally Posted by swordrain

I've got two major questions right now that I could really use help on......

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Whm/Mrd/War/Mnk here, I've grinded over 70+ pvp ranks across all three grand companies. Wanted to give you my opinion on your questions.

1. I've tried mnd/pie/vit and I prefer vitality since I use full fending trinkets.

2. There are many customizable settings for hotbars. You can remove shared hotbars under its respective menu. I personally have 2 hotkey horizontal bars and 1 vertical bar near the center of the screen for clicking (situational/consumable items...potion,icarus,regain etc)

After reading this, I'm totally getting a set of tank accessories to use. I played last night as white mage, and the other healer in the group probably had close to 800 HP more than me because of tank accessories.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

After reading this, I'm totally getting a set of tank accessories to use. I played last night as white mage, and the other healer in the group probably had close to 800 HP more than me because of tank accessories.

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yea i equip all tank acc/vit pvp skill fully powered up and have 5004 hp unbuffed. with hq food 5300ish and with warr thrill of battle, over 6kish hp

beyond using tank accessories, which is a good idea, try using those with crit/det.
SCH, imo, is an easier entry into PVP since you have a built-in back up with your fairy.
at rank 40 i have MND filled instead of VIT for PVP skills. the extra 12 MND is better than 12 VIT
if you have all right side tank gear.

also, i have my points spread across all actions. my rule of thumb is 4 points is not worth
putting into a spot for a skill that only reduces recast by 30 seconds.
for example, the SCH knockback skill. its great and has 3 spots;
extra knockback, increased potency, and reduced recast. i choose extra knockback since that is the main reason
for me to use that skilll, ie. knocking people off a ledge. the extra potency is meh and the 30 seconds just
doesnt come off as appealing.

I did a frontline last night, and I never died :) thanks for all your great help everyone.

My next question is: is there a secret to targeting my allies? I'd just use the unit frames but there's no range indicator of who's close enough to heal.

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Originally Posted by swordrain

I did a frontline last night, and I never died :) thanks for all your great help everyone.

My next question is: is there a secret to targeting my allies? I'd just use the unit frames but there's no range indicator of who's close enough to heal.

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we have already made the request for SE to add a range checker to party and alliance frames to gray out members who are outside of 30y. we can only hope they add it. until then get used to wasting precious lustrates and other heals on people who are either just outside the 30y or aren't even there. at this point, to avoid that from happening if you don't see the person visually around, you will have to manually click them and see if you get their target arrow on their heads. personally what i do is turn on party and alliance nameplates and hp bars so i know who is around me and use mouseover macros but still i occasionally waste a spell.