Atma Drop Rates MUST be increased.

I have gone officially crazy with atma farming. 12 hours in an atma region and not a single one. I've put in at least 2-3 days and I'm 1/12.

This is absurd and extremely poorly designed.

Square Enix, for F sakes, don't you realize that not only are the drop rates in-human, but that we need to GET 12 OF THESE THINGS. AND PEOPLE HAVE MORE THAN ONE CLASS.

I have 3 different Relics that need to reach atma. What the actual hell?

"Oh but it helps new players complete fates"

That's complete and utter BS. I rarely see low levels doing fates because they're too busy doing story quests/dungeons and no longer require them.

I've heard the atma drop rate is around 5%

I think the atma drop rate should be boosted to at least 15-25%


As of right now, I'm cancelling my subscription the day before it's due until this gets fixed. I can't progress at this point.

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I know it won't get me anywhere but SE needs to read this.

Just when you thought the dev 14-hour challenge would've shut these threads down.

15-25%? Way to completely trivialize the content.

Atma/animus and maybe even novus are gonna get nerfed. Seems highly improbable that new players as of patch 2.38 will be expected to do relic->zenith->atma->animus->novus->TBA name of ilvl 120 relic. Also take some advice, main ONE class, and leave the rest avg old i90. Having 2 mains is more gearing than playing in all honesty. ( says the person who did atma quest twice...)

In all honesty they could delete atma, and make the animus books free. It was a bit much....

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

Atma/animus and maybe even novus are gonna get nerfed. Seems highly improbable that new players as of patch 2.38 will be expected to do relic->zenith->atma->animus->novus->TBA name of ilvl 120 relic. Also take some advice, main ONE class, and leave the rest avg old i90. Having 2 mains is more gearing than playing in all honesty. ( says the person who did atma quest twice...)

In all honesty they could delete atma, and make the animus books free. It was a bit much....

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Ya my SCH and BLM are i90 zenith.

War is my main at i94. But the drop rates are so low I'm scared my WAR will never even get to atma. My point of mentioning that people have more than 1 class is for SE to consider that while although it is smart just to main one class, some people will want their other classes maxed too. For example, I need to keep my healer as geared as possible so that in the event that my FC needs a healer, I can do a good job.

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Originally Posted by Sabrina

As of right now, I'm cancelling my subscription the day before it's due until this gets fixed. I can't progress at this point.

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From the guy who has done this 3 times on one char and twice on another.

Don't let the door hit you on the....

I mean rage quitting over atma, when there are so many other weapon options is so overly dramatic its laughable.

This is why I am totally against giving all kids a trophy just because they showed up. It creates this mentality.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Just when you thought the dev 14-hour challenge would've shut these threads down.

15-25%? Way to completely trivialize the content.

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Sorry some of us work and don't have time to sit all day on a computer. I did those 12 hours spread out in three days. And seriously, do you enjoy spamming fates for hours on end with the chance that you may not make progress whatsoever? I don't know about you, but I'm not paying for a broken design.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

From the guy who has done this 3 times on one char and twice on another.

Don't let the door hit you on the....

I mean rage quitting over atma, when there are so many other weapon options is so overly dramatic its laughable.

This is why I am totally against giving all kids a trophy just because they showed up. It creates this mentality.

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Except I've farmed for 12 hours and not a single atma. That's what bothers me. Not expecting to finish atma in 12 hours, but not to get even 1? Something is wrong here and you know it.

Is your zenith equipped? That's usually the culprit. I spent 14-ish hrs on 1 atma on my last round but spent maybe 6-7 hrs total between the other 11. Chill and turn on Netflix, binge on a show and change zones hourly.

And look at it this way at least you don't have to....


- Spend months attaining highest rank in your gc
- Kill 3 beastmen with 24+ hr respawns and can only be claimed by one party after hrs of farming keys to pass thru gates
- Spend a few more months climbing 100 floors of a tower repeatedly to earn enough points to buy and item
- spend months killing odin again and again to earn enough points to buy another item
- spam content to earn 30k alexandrite when you're lucky to get 100 per run all while spamming other content for the ability to enter this content which will also lock you out of the climbing those floors or achieving your highest rank so it really cant be done at the same time as the rest.
- are constantly held back by weekly timers and jp midnight lockouts

and boom you got 1 weapon

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have to spam 18-man content that took hrs of /sh and coordination to set up that only one group can do at a time and you are only allowed to do twice a week and earn 18k-ish drops at maybe 500 a week plus other random drops for a single weapon and are also blocked by other random timers. This also doesn't include the troll or 3 that get into your party who can utterly destroy a run if they really want to causing you to get nothing or nearly nothing, wasting not only one of your 2 runs for the week but also all the time you spent just setting the pt up. Oh and lets not forget having to redo this same pt again because the content you wanted to do was being used by another group causing half your pt to leave and forcing you to begin anew.


Looking at it that way, SE has completely eased up on the difficulty at getting these infamous weapons.

And if you are frustrated by atma, your gonna rage on alex/materia too. maybe its just time to look at games with no long term goals.

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Sorry some of us work and don't have time to sit all day on a computer. I did those 12 hours spread out in three days. And seriously, do you enjoy spamming fates for hours on end with the chance that you may not make progress whatsoever? I don't know about you, but I'm not paying for a broken design.

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See that's the funniest thing about these threads, even with bad luck with atma it's plenty less time you'll spend on this than the very next step. So why do the content if you can't play that much? And @ 25% your 12 hours in 3 days would get you 30 atmas if you do 10 fates an hour, which is probably underestimating it.

And it's not supposed to be something that takes that little time.

I have a suggestion that might please the old-timers that went through the grind, and the newer/casual gamers (though they might still complain).

Make atma something that you have to grind for each zone. I don't know what the drop % is, but let's say it is currently 1%. Then make the specific atma drop after a player completes 100 FATEs with his/her relic at that zone. That way, the old-gen can't really say that the new-gen get it too easy all the time. And the new-gen/casual gamer can track progress.

I fall under the new-gen/casual gamer category, but I understand the "we had it much harder" attitude of some. But at the same time, from a game design perspective and a casual gamer perspective, I don't quite see the point of inserting this RNG element in this specific element to the game.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

15-25%? Way to completely trivialize the content.

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Why not make them sold at a NPC for 20 Gil...

i agree with xenok while its true that the grind is fun for some it isnt fun for others and is just boring and monotonous for others there are lots of people who dont like repeating the same content over and over there has to be a compromise that will please both partys like increase it to maybe 5-7% or just use xenoks idea that way the grinders can have there grind and the players who hate the grind have a way to get what they want/need without having to go through the mind numbing boredom of doing something over and over with no chance of reward

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have to spam 18-man content that took hrs of /sh and coordination to set up that only one group can do at a time and you are only allowed to do twice a week for a single weapon and are This also doesn't include the troll or 3 that get into your party who can utterly destroy a run if they really want to causing you to get nothing or nearly nothing, wasting not only one of your 2 runs for the week but also all the time you spent just setting the pt up.

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the 18man content doesn't seem that bad idea and if you get troll that ruins a run purposefully then just kick them from the static and move on but there are people who are still learning and mistakes happen just because someone messes up a few times doesnt make them a troll everyone has to learn at some point and im sure everyone had to practice a run countless times just so they can be good at it and not mess up
also as for making partys thats what statics and free componeys r for and ls in ffxi

The grind is real. It's not BiS, so why does everyone want it?

I'll tell you why: Because after ATMA grinding for a month, and you finally complete your weapon to the next stage, you can be proud you did mind numbing content and have a rare item to show for it.

RARE LOOT DRIVES PEOPLE BATSHIT CRAZY.

If it was easy, everyone would have one, but then it wouldn't be special, so it's worthless.

i would not consider a Novus as "rare" as the wielders increase day by day...

It´s truly no BiS, but BiS Weapon is not in reach for >90% and most don´t bother about BiS anyway, just for iLvl - and 110 is a piece of cake through hunting...

Question: If no one had a relic weapon yet, would you still be upset about the drop rate, or are you raging because others have one and you don't?

Over 3 weeks, 10/12, and I don't care. I'll eventually get it, because I am doing the grind every night for 3 hours. Add that up.

Now either quit, or grind. There's nothing you have said that hasn't been said already. Move on, nothing to see here folks.