QoL change: Sky watcher

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08-21-2014, 03:59 AM
Desidious

QoL change: Sky watcher

First: Thank you SE for forecasting the weather through an npc. It was needed for us fishermen. :)

My issue: Can we get the time of the next weather change put on there as well? It would help by not having to go to websites or hope that someone took note of when the last change occurred.
08-21-2014, 04:02 AM
Sove92

Weather changes every eight Eorzean hours. 12AM, 8AM and 4PM.
08-21-2014, 04:04 AM
Archadius

A bit unrelated, but anyone know if the new Sky Watcher NPC predicts "Hopeless" (Odin) weather?

Just curious if I can use them as a rough gauge for the next Odin pop or if it's still pretty much random (with a 72hr base window). I'm trying to stock up a few mantles but have only ever run into Odin once and it was a total fluke really, I was mining lol
08-21-2014, 04:21 AM
Ultimatecalibur

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Originally Posted by Archadius

A bit unrelated, but anyone know if the new Sky Watcher NPC predicts "Hopeless" (Odin) weather?

Just curious if I can use them as a rough gauge for the next Odin pop or if it's still pretty much random (with a 72hr base window). I'm trying to stock up a few mantles but have only ever run into Odin once and it was a total fluke really, I was mining lol

Hopeless is a weather override: If Odin is up the weather is Hopeless. If Steel Reign spawns at the right time it can be Hopeless through 2 weather changes.
08-21-2014, 04:22 AM
Archadius

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Hopeless is a weather override: If Odin is up the weather is Hopeless. If Steel Reign spawns at the right time it can be Hopeless through 2 weather changes.

So no then. Such a shame... Thanks though! ^_^
08-21-2014, 06:32 AM
TheRogueX

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Originally Posted by Archadius

A bit unrelated, but anyone know if the new Sky Watcher NPC predicts "Hopeless" (Odin) weather?

Just curious if I can use them as a rough gauge for the next Odin pop or if it's still pretty much random (with a 72hr base window). I'm trying to stock up a few mantles but have only ever run into Odin once and it was a total fluke really, I was mining lol

This was seriously needed (some way to predict when Odin/Behemoth were going to spawn), but of course they're going to ignore it.
08-21-2014, 06:42 AM
SulwynCaliope

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

This was seriously needed (some way to predict when Odin/Behemoth were going to spawn), but of course they're going to ignore it.

I actually prefer it that we can't predict when behe and odin are going to pop. They're the kinds of server events where if you want to participate then you have to drop everything and rush over. The spontaneity of it is part of the fun I feel. It would kinda ruin it if I knew before hand that they were going to spawn in X minutes. Especially for behe since then I and about 100 other people would just camp his spawn spot and would lock other people out of getting his rewards.
08-21-2014, 06:58 AM
Limecat

I'm hoping a site pops up that references the forecasts somehow and then spits out a 24 game-hour list of which vistas and big fish are going to be available.
08-21-2014, 07:51 AM
Mykll

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Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope

I actually prefer it that we can't predict when behe and odin are going to pop. They're the kinds of server events where if you want to participate then you have to drop everything and rush over. The spontaneity of it is part of the fun I feel. It would kinda ruin it if I knew before hand that they were going to spawn in X minutes. Especially for behe since then I and about 100 other people would just camp his spawn spot and would lock other people out of getting his rewards.

The sad thing is, two straight times I was in Shroud when the weather changed. I timed it. From weather change, to Odin dead, 6 minutes, and 7 minutes. You have to rush over because it is pulled immediately and you have to pray to get a gold. It really wouldn't matter if we knew the spawn time or not, such a large over geared zerg now kills him so easily and fast. It would make almost no difference if we knew spawn time or not. But, I agree we should not know that. He's dead fast enough as it is.
08-21-2014, 08:03 AM
Baneus

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Originally Posted by Mykll

The sad thing is, two straight times I was in Shroud when the weather changed. I timed it. From weather change, to Odin dead, 6 minutes, and 7 minutes. You have to rush over because it is pulled immediately and you have to pray to get a gold. It really wouldn't matter if we knew the spawn time or not, such a large over geared zerg now kills him so easily and fast. It would make almost no difference if we knew spawn time or not. But, I agree we should not know that. He's dead fast enough as it is.

Pretty sure they have extra health now. Took Behemoth 10 minutes to kill Odin last time I did it (last week) with over 80 people there.
08-21-2014, 08:13 AM
Ultimatecalibur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykll

The sad thing is, two straight times I was in Shroud when the weather changed. I timed it. From weather change, to Odin dead, 6 minutes, and 7 minutes. You have to rush over because it is pulled immediately and you have to pray to get a gold. It really wouldn't matter if we knew the spawn time or not, such a large over geared zerg now kills him so easily and fast. It would make almost no difference if we knew spawn time or not. But, I agree we should not know that. He's dead fast enough as it is.

What was Odin's level? If it was around 50 or 51 then 6 to 7 min is not surprising. 60 should still be decimating 110 groups.
08-21-2014, 08:34 AM
Nyalia

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Originally Posted by Limecat

I'm hoping a site pops up that references the forecasts somehow and then spits out a 24 game-hour list of which vistas and big fish are going to be available.

I have a spreadsheet that lists what i80 fish are open given the current time, which is calculable without parsing game data (it's just current time *3600/175). Since weather is random as far as I know, there's no way to calculate what the next weather will be without parsing the game data to get the info from the Skywatchers, which is not something I'd do (against the ToS and all). However, I'm trying to figure out an easy way to manually input the forecasts.

Also, does anyone know if the weather is the same on every server? If so, maybe there's a pattern to it?
08-21-2014, 08:40 AM
Ultimatecalibur

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Also, does anyone know if the weather is the same on every server? If so, maybe there's a pattern to it?

Weather is the same cross all servers. This was confirmed around the time the sightseeing log was introduced. Weather seems to be RNG and is now generated 70 minutes before it changes.
08-21-2014, 08:54 AM
Triston

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Originally Posted by Limecat

I'm hoping a site pops up that references the forecasts somehow and then spits out a 24 game-hour list of which vistas and big fish are going to be available.

http://na.ff14angler.com/timetable.php
http://na.ff14angler.com/skywatcher

You'll need to do some basic cross-referencing yourself, and it doesn't include sightseeing, but here you go. Also for the timetable it has the time set about 3.5 hours back, presumably just to give a more aesthetically appealing grid, but the skywatcher is accurate to current Eorzea time. (not logged in, checked via http://www.ffxivclock.com/)

In any case, while not as convenient and one-stop shop as you requested, there's plenty of online resources to get exactly that information.
01-07-2015, 05:59 PM
ClaireFury

everytime the fate is a success Odin gets stronger, i dont know for behemoth though