Now I understand as of now the game doesn't have much zones, however I have always been bothered by the way one place would transition into others. Now I'm not talking about an open area such as Thanalan to Nawana Mines, which is a nice transition.
More from Thanalan's desert to Gridania's expansive forest. There's no ease into the new zone. It's an abrupt change and kinda takes away from the immersion and sense of change.
I believe this should be changed and implemented in the near future.
Zone Transition?
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07-28-2011, 12:22 AMSeokiZone Transition?
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07-28-2011, 12:24 AMGidonoidon_Sur
They need to go back to the zones idea like FFXI and make the entrances to the different zones resemble the area you are heading to.
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07-28-2011, 12:26 AMSeoki
Yes, that's exactly what I want. I feel like you should begin to see a forest as you get closer from Thanalan to Gridania it would really add to the overall feel of the game.
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07-28-2011, 02:10 AMNakiamiieI, too, believe they should either add transitory zones to make the change from true zones to another more smooth or add seamless transition for each zones with new data map swaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seoki
In FFXI, very few zones truly had entrances to new zones with elements of that zone (La theine plateau to Valkrum dunes, where was the transition? for example). I am talking about true definitely noticeable transition for outside zones and areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur
Yoshida-san said they would redo certain maps in the future, hopefully they will add areas transitions and zones transitions. -
09-20-2011, 07:20 PMSupaCancerion
Just wanted to bump this thread because it's something that's really bothered me from the get go and I feel like it needs to be addressed, badly. The copy/pasted zones are bad enough and I'm ecstatic that they are being redesigned, but I really hope they address this issue as well. It's just tacky and makes Eorzea seem so cookie cutter and fake. I would like to feel as if I'm actually traveling through a living, breathing world, and this completely destroys that. I love the excitement I get in open world RPGs when I'm exploring and the scenery begins to change, and I know I'm about to enter a new area/region. It really heightens the level of immersion. It wouldn't even have to be completely seamless; I'm okay with having to load a new area, just give us some kind of inclination that we're about to enter a new zone. For instance, in Thanalan, maybe have the scenery rise a little bit and have huge roots begin to grow out the sides of cliffs, and different kinds of trees appear here and there, or maybe even let us be able to see the top of The Black Shroud's canopy in the distance before we hit the load screen. I'm sure something can be done. Please do something about this SE!
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09-20-2011, 07:31 PMAnty
i agree, it would also add to the scenery a lot and you would have a nice walk and see how the vegetation gets richer the closer you get to gridania. From Gridania to coertas there could also be something like a way, that takes you up the mountains, rather then just "ding", <welcome> to the mountains.
The animals also should reflect the vegetation more (this bothers me even more tbh). The same mobs all over again. That is retarded. Each area should be unique in most aspects, matching vegetation to the creatures therein would be nice. -
09-20-2011, 08:53 PMLienn
Ya, i've been asking this for a while already...making intermediary zones...maybe like Lumberline...just a big hall with a settlement in the middle...but to give time to the game to load the new area without the loading screen.
It's actually pretty easy to do...just would require a bit of effort making the intermediate models (since areas like thanalan and black shroud are pretty different, they would require some intermediate models that would be the same at both regions). I would love seeing interediary zones to avouid loading screen! ^^ -
09-20-2011, 09:11 PMKorbei
Since the issue is really only present between Thanalan and Black Shroud, the easiest way I can think to address the issue (but not the best by any means) is to separate both areas by a huge mountain range that would occlude both regions from each other. Then the transition could simply be a tunnel through the mountain.
It's easier to imagine desert and rain forest on opposite sides on a mountain. -
09-20-2011, 11:56 PMQfox
what i dont like about the areas in this ffxiv that i feel its only like 5 maps .. and when will try to lvl in same zone will get u bored .. because only mobs and their lvl is changing, for example in LL area .. from camp rock till iron lake th envirement is halls and grass on ground and occen is surrend the area .. we dont go to new areas which give feeling of adventure
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09-20-2011, 11:58 PMsyntaxlieswow, this is exactly what i was gonna say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korbei
edit: also a passage through giant whole in some sort of magical giant tree would be cool.(like that tree from avatar, but with a big whole in it) -
09-21-2011, 01:34 AMGidonoidon_Sur
I wish, and this probably won't happen for a very long time (or ever). That the zones were much smaller, and had distinct landscapes monsters weather etc. And there should be many more. Similar to XI.
Now this is really wishful thinking, but I hope they are unique too. I remember how blown my mind was the first time I got access to Sea in XI. Monsters below and above me? Giant flying things...? = Awesome. -
09-21-2011, 02:14 AMLen
In case anyone had not read, the developers will be making map revisions.
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Q: What is your favorite zone in FFXIV?
Yoshida: Central Mor Dhona, where the remains of the fallen airship can be seen. The place oozes with a sense of adventure. I'm hoping to create more places like this when we revise the map - and make sure there's plenty of content to compliment them!
Hard to tell, but The Black Shroud appears to be surrounded by desert outside of its' borders. -
09-21-2011, 06:14 AMSupaCancerionI would have to disagree with you and say that the problem is everywhere. The same thing happens when moving between Coerthas and Mor Dhona, Black Shroud to Coerthas, Thanalan to Mor Dhona, vice versa. The difference in scenery changes radically and abrubtly in each case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korbei
However, the idea of a mountain range separating them is great. That's something that could very easily be done and would fix the problem quite nicely. I'm up for anything that would help make the transition seem more natural and realistic, and flesh out the world more. -
09-21-2011, 06:42 AMVawn
When I played the beta and saw that each nation was only one zone a part, I was under the impression that it was just for testing purposes. I could have sworn when the actual game was finally released, there would intermediate zones in-between the nations. It just seems so awkward for different nations to be so close together. People told me I was crazy and that the nations are actually this close. I guess "people" were right, and I was wrong, but I still think it feels wrong. The world feels way too small. Even if it takes a while to run through these "copypastga" areas.
When I first made it to Bastok and Windurst from San d'Oria I felt so far away from "home". It felt a like a really long way. It took me weeks just to get further than the Dunes and when I did finally make it to Bastok and the surrounding areas, I felt like I stumbled upon other player's game. In FFXIV, the three nations almost just feel like 3 areas of the same city. I image this will be even more valid once instant airship rides will connect them. -
09-21-2011, 07:59 PMKorbeiYou make good points. However if the mountain range idea is implemented around all of the Black Shroud, that solves the issue for Black Shroud/Mor Dhona and Black Shroud/Coerthas.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupaCancerion
Then you need to devise another way to deal with Thanalan/Mor Dhona and Mor Dhona/Coerthas.
I think the original idea remains simple and effectual.