So I'm curious about resetting elites

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08-01-2014, 08:46 PM
Welsper59

So I'm curious about resetting elites

Is that something that GMs will actually take action on? It happens all the time, so just wondering on that. Otherwise, I may learn to enjoy it, instead of currently hate it.

I mean, it does wipe credit to anyone prior to reset, so it's not like you're potentially making others lose full credit. But if I can potentially troll hunt groups as a result unharmed, I may find it enjoyable... evil begets evil.
08-01-2014, 08:49 PM
Seibah

Shining pillar that holds up the wonderful xiv community we know today right here folks
08-01-2014, 08:51 PM
Welsper59

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Originally Posted by Seibah

Shining pillar that holds up the wonderful xiv community we know today right here folks

Yeah, but I can be a d-bag at least once in a while. :(
08-01-2014, 09:04 PM
Ecks007

So what does a reset do, really? If you are already there anyway, you keep attacking the mob til it dies, right? You still get full credit for doing so.

So what does a reset do, really? Other than allow even more people to get full credit from the hunt mob.

What the hell is the problem?

Oh, that's right. It just didn't die fast enough for your one or two groups to kill it and claim the reward for yourself, hmm?

Too bad.
08-01-2014, 09:11 PM
Welsper59

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

So what does a reset do, really? If you are already there anyway, you keep attacking the mob til it dies, right? You still get full credit for doing so.

So what does a reset do, really? Other than allow even more people to get full credit from the hunt mob.

What the hell is the problem?

Oh, that's right. It just didn't die fast enough for your one or two groups to kill it and claim the reward for yourself, hmm?

Too bad.

Yep, but it also runs the risk of people losing full credit potential. If a player continuously resets the target that is being attacked by 20 people, so that a following 50+ more show up, the chances of a lot of those people getting full credit does lower significantly. And if it happens all the time, it's... pretty bad. Those who would have had full credit, now gets partial because someone wanted to reset for their own group(s) to have time to get enough threat in. This happens a lot with B's and A's. Not really a big deal, but it can be very annoying to have someone ruin something for you because they simply feel like it.
08-01-2014, 09:11 PM
MythToken

You can't really troll a hunt group unless its a B, which they don't care about. They would just let the A or S kill you, and then get the credit.
08-01-2014, 09:49 PM
KahnyaRedx

Resetting a hunt target is considered disruptive play and it's against the ToS. Most warriors will holmgang or whatever it's called though to prevent this (if they are smart*).

*Many people are not smart.
08-01-2014, 10:34 PM
Fynlar

I doubt anything would happen if it happened like once on a mob or something. It's easy for mobs in this game to be reset even by accident.

Now if you were doing it over and over to be trolly + it was really obvious that it was one person/group doing it, I could see them laying the smackdown on you for it.
08-01-2014, 10:45 PM
NyneAlexander

GMs have already issued warnings and temporary suspensions for this. Reset at your own risk.
08-01-2014, 10:47 PM
MilesSaintboroguh

It's against the rules because it resets progression, so it causes grief to players that were trying to beat the mob. People did it during FATEs and I seen quite a few complaints about it on the forums a while back.
08-01-2014, 10:54 PM
JTribal

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

So what does a reset do, really? If you are already there anyway, you keep attacking the mob til it dies, right? You still get full credit for doing so.

So what does a reset do, really? Other than allow even more people to get full credit from the hunt mob.

What the hell is the problem?

Oh, that's right. It just didn't die fast enough for your one or two groups to kill it and claim the reward for yourself, hmm?

Too bad.

Yea, too bad it resets progress entirely. So in cases of A and S marks, anyone who gets knocked out the first round will completely lose all credit and get no rewards if they are not raised and tag the boss by the time it actually dies after the reset.

NO BIG DEAL GUYS!
08-01-2014, 11:26 PM
Brine_Gildchaff

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

So what does a reset do, really? If you are already there anyway, you keep attacking the mob til it dies, right? You still get full credit for doing so.

Not if it was reset to let the "horde" zerg it down so quickly that your party only has time for 1-2 abilities each. On high-population servers, B-ranks dying literally within 1-2 GCD periods is getting to be pandemic.
08-01-2014, 11:36 PM
Ecks007

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

Not if it was reset to let the "horde" zerg it down so quickly that your party only has time for 1-2 abilities each. On high-population servers, B-ranks dying literally within 1-2 GCD periods is getting to be pandemic.

:o Sucks to be you then.

I was on just a bit ago, and we had all of 3 or 4 parties out hunting A and B rank mobs. Sometimes it's really great to be a non-capacity full server.
08-02-2014, 04:51 AM
givemeraptors

I don't know why they don't just make the mobs resistant to Provoke. They did this with certain FATE monsters... why can't they just do it with all hunts?
08-02-2014, 05:29 AM
NyneAlexander

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Originally Posted by givemeraptors

I don't know why they don't just make the mobs resistant to Provoke. They did this with certain FATE monsters... why can't they just do it with all hunts?

they are resistant to provoke.