Any reason why we can't talk to our FC in Frontlines?

It's against the freedom of speech and very annoying.

Unfair collaboration, mostly.

What the hell does freedom of speech have to do with this.

Because your fc mate might be in failstorm and you in imortal lames and start passing info about what you or his team is doing. You may think its minor but it only takes 1 say to say that mu group is going is heading to markets and our outpost is unguarded so you and your team can just skip markets and take their Outpost.

I was unaware of this, I seem to recall being able to talk in FC chat in Frontlines, but then I was also in a FC party... May be a bug or I may be remembering wrong.


And it has absolutely nothing to do with the legal or constitutional concept of "Freedom of Speech". Just throwing that out there.

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Originally Posted by NargaHuntress

Because your fc mate might be in failstorm and you in imortal lames and start passing info about what you or his team is doing. You may think its minor but it only takes 1 say to say that mu group is going is heading to markets and our outpost is unguarded so you and your team can just skip markets and take their Outpost.

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as if they can't do that via teamspeak/vent/skype/line or anything else.

Of course unfair collaboration via outside channels can't be prevented. That doesn't mean the game itself should allow it to happen within its own channels.

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Of course unfair collaboration via outside channels can't be prevented. That doesn't mean the game itself should allow it to happen within its own channels.

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Don't see why not. Cheaters gonna cheat.

All something like this really does is make the activity less enjoyable for people that aren't even "collaborating" in the first place.

Because no one is using Teamspeak... sure... in your dreams!
Thats an useless feature!

Result is we already see win trading when 2 factions are helping to bash the 3rd.
Communication is power, and SE can not stop it just with disabling chat...

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Originally Posted by Pandastirfry

I was unaware of this, I seem to recall being able to talk in FC chat in Frontlines, but then I was also in a FC party... May be a bug or I may be remembering wrong.


And it has absolutely nothing to do with the legal or constitutional concept of "Freedom of Speech". Just throwing that out there.

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You can read what ppl say but not answer.

basically inside a FC you can have people in different grand companies, so it is a way to prevent unfair co-operation, using teamspeak to tell people where you are and what you team is doing is still cheating techniquly using a 3rd party app and is reportable, but they cannot block teamspeak since it is 3rd party so the best they could do was block FC, Shout and yell :3

I don't see the reduction in quality of life being at all justified by the slim chance of being in the same frontlines game, and the even smaller chance that they will collaborate rather than compete against each other. They could just allow FCs to queue together if they are worried about collaboration.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Don't see why not. Cheaters gonna cheat.

All something like this really does is make the activity less enjoyable for people that aren't even "collaborating" in the first place.

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They haven't let you chat in PvP since day#1, for the same reasons. Enjoyment has nothing to do with it (plus, you should be focusing on the opponents, not chatting)

At any rate, SE can't stop people from willfully cheating and win-trading, but they don't have to enable and sanction the behavior.

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They haven't let you chat in PvP since day#1, for the same reasons.

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And it hasn't been a good idea since day #1, for the same reasons.

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(plus, you should be focusing on the opponents, not chatting)

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With that logic, chatting shouldn't be allowed anywhere in the game. You should be focused on actually playing instead of typing.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

With that logic, chatting shouldn't be allowed anywhere in the game. You should be focused on actually playing instead of typing.

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If I had a dollar every time a dps stood in aoe or healer let someone die because "oops, talking in FC"...

Of course, we should never talk in the game. There's totally not up to 23 other people on your team worth talking to about the fight at hand.
You want to talk to someone in FC while in Frontlines, use Teamspeak. At least that leaves your hands free to dodge and attack.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

It's against the freedom of speech and very annoying.

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I'ts not against freedom of speech, it's against espionage

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Originally Posted by NargaHuntress

Because your fc mate might be in failstorm and you in imortal lames and start passing info about what you or his team is doing. You may think its minor but it only takes 1 say to say that mu group is going is heading to markets and our outpost is unguarded so you and your team can just skip markets and take their Outpost.

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Like the other person said..that can be done by so many things. So that's a poor excuse..as for the failstorm part..I find that interesting since 90% of the fights in frontlines it results with adders and flames joining forces and attacking the "failstorm".

One way I've found around this, to be able to chat in an LS while inside frontlines, is that if you make a custom chat channel and use that chat channel instead of "General" in frontlines, you'll be able to see the chats you choose. Also, if you enter frontlines with your default chat method set to something (FC in this instance) and keep it the default, you can chat normally. Granted you'll have to type /p or /a to chat inside frontlines to your party or alliance, but so far it works for me when my friends and I queue together and want to chat in our LS while we play.

Wouldn't the real way to prevent 'unfair collaboration' be to just not have this faction-specific PVP? We should've been allowed to que with our friends in the first place. :P

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Originally Posted by Evangela

It's against the freedom of speech and very annoying.

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It's against the amendment that says 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.'

Huh....didn't realize that.

I understand why the restriction is in place but it is incredibly annoying. Remember this is not the only place chat is restricted you cant even send tells in dungeons for no reason what so ever. So there are now plenty of times when you can not communicate with people efficiently and this is supposed to be an MMO, a social game.

Someone speaks to you while you are in Frontlines and you look like a total ass for having no way to respond.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

I understand why the restriction is in place but it is incredibly annoying. Remember this is not the only place chat is restricted you cant even send tells in dungeons for no reason what so ever. So there are now plenty of times when you can not communicate with people efficiently and this is supposed to be an MMO, a social game.

Someone speaks to you while you are in Frontlines and you look like a total ass for having no way to respond.

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And then they look like a total ass when you point out they could of looked to see where you were.

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And then they look like a total ass when you point out they could of looked to see where you were.

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There's plenty of people who don't necessarily know that you cannot receive messages in pvp. Possibly because it's a stupid idea to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

Because no one is using Teamspeak... sure... in your dreams!
Thats an useless feature!..

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Yeah, screw those people that is using ps4 client, they don't deserve equality.

This is what you are trying to say, right? If you are using team speak, why would you even care about typing in FC chat?

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

There's plenty of people who don't necessarily know that you cannot receive messages in pvp. Possibly because it's a stupid idea to begin with.

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Considering it's PvP, i'd rather not be chatting with people and concentrating on the task at hand. Oh, that applies in PvE instance too.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Don't see why not. Cheaters gonna cheat.

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If we applied this analogy to real life situations, oh god...

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Originally Posted by Divinemight

Yeah, screw those people that is using ps4 client, they don't deserve equality.

This is what you are trying to say, right? If you are using team speak, why would you even care about typing in FC chat?

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You know, Ps4 you can use VoIP tools too...
And arnt we talking about faction communication? You cant chat with them by typing...