Guardian Breastplate of Striking

First off, thank you SE for some of the most unique looking armor you can get in the new Syrcus Tower (ST, CT2). Some of it is really great for glamour.

I got my Breastplate of Striking today and I was super excited. I was going to glamour it over my petals of power Gloam Tabard as I really wanted something different. It looks great and all but I have a major beef....my character is a female highlander and, well, to sound like the typical male player my boobs disappeared completely. Gone, zip. The soldiery breastplate was bad enough but the CT2 breastplate is actually flat against the chest so I cannot see why they wouldn't appear. Is this intended? I haven't seen anyone else with the breastplate yet on a female character to compare.

Women Fighters in Reasonable Armor.

If that's true, then I'm actually glad it's that way and I'm a little more keen on snagging one.

Realistic armor can be awesome.

It's the main reason I decided against trying to get the CT DRG set for glamour and go for the i80 instead. It's not that I care about the fact my boobs go poof, it's the sheer fact of how silly it looks because of it. For some reason it just looks... wrong.

Now, I'm not saying it's a bad thing that there's armour that is truly bulky for both male and female, but some minor adjustment probably would've made it look a teeny bit better. Sometimes I wish there was a slot for shoulderpads, cause they look ridiculous in a very good way.

Screenshots might help us understand better. I for one haven't seen it on females yet.

'Boobplate' is a ridiculous concept anyway. It needs to die.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Screenshots might help us understand better. haven'tI for one haven't seen it on females yet.

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Sorry, I probably should have included that.

http://postimg.org/image/vgxfxexh9/

Using a link so the thread isn't all stretched to pieces because of my resolution.

i often wish for girl armor to get ride of the shoulder pad or some of the stuff along the belt.
take this one: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/9369953a2e2/
you take out the belt part and make it less important and it will look, on girl, more nice.

don't forget armor must protect but too, not be an hindrance on the movement, the woman are more... agile and need a better freedom of movement that bulky armor don't offer.

Yeah, no.

I for one am incredible thankful that girls actually get armour that actually makes sense, the few cases where there's a difference (DRG AF, for example) are bad enough and the less of that we can see the better.

See, I'm looking for some super molding around the breasts. That wouldn't make sense. A good example of it being done right is the darklight armor. It's still a breastplate that displays the proper curves without being ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Failia

See, I'm looking for some super molding around the breasts. That wouldn't make sense. A good example of it being done right is the darklight armor. It's still a breastplate that displays the proper curves without being ridiculous.

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Actually proper armor of that type wouldn't look any different between male and female.

Shoulder pads? You mean pauldrons?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauldron

You guys do realize that you're playing Final 'Fantasy' right? That's great you want realistic armor, but it's silly to actually expect it. You can tank in a swimsuit if you want to.

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Originally Posted by Billzey

You guys do realize that you're playing Final 'Fantasy' right? That's great you want realistic armor, but it's silly to actually expect it. You can tank in a swimsuit if you want to.

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Exactly this. Terra fought in a thong leotard in FF6. She was probably the most powerful character in the game.

Reality and fantasy aren't supposed to line up. Stop asking for realism in games with magic.

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

Exactly this. Terra fought in a thong leotard in FF6. She was probably the most powerful character in the game.

Reality and fantasy aren't supposed to line up. Stop asking for realism in games with magic.

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Considering most of the actual armor in the game is DESIGNED to be somewhat realistic? I see no issue with it.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Actually proper armor of that type wouldn't look any different between male and female.

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Er, I'm no expert on this, but as I understand, armor like that typically has to be fitted to its wearer for best effectiveness. Men and women tend to have different body proportions.

Talking specifically about the chest though, I guess if your character is binding for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, they could put on that chestpiece and transform to some kind of magical washboard flatness. I can't imagine it being enjoyble or that there aren't, uh, other armor-fitting solutions that are still effective.

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Originally Posted by Billzey

You guys do realize that you're playing Final 'Fantasy' right? That's great you want realistic armor, but it's silly to actually expect it. You can tank in a swimsuit if you want to.

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My final fantasy is wearing functional-appearing armor while bathing in the blood of oversized men who think that 'fantasy game' means they're entitled to see my character in a magic thong whenever she walks by, and then making out with at least one other girl.

So far, I have to applaud Yoshida's vision for coming damn close.

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Originally Posted by Krr

Er, I'm no expert on this, but as I understand, armor like that typically has to be fitted to its wearer for best effectiveness. Men and women tend to have different body proportions.

Talking specifically about the chest though, I guess if your character is binding for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, they could put on that chestpiece and transform to some kind of magical washboard flatness. I can't imagine it being enjoyble or that there aren't, uh, other armor-fitting solutions that are still effective.

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You're right, you're not an expert. Armor molded to your chest in some form is actually dangerous.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/12/16/armo...-battle-armor/

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/05/boo...would-kill-you

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Originally Posted by Krr

and then making out with at least one other girl.

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Just did one of the Moogle mail quests, you know, the Ul'dah one. That Highlander dude makes absolutely no subtle attempt to say he's gonna bang both of those Mi'qote chicks. Especially when he dons the reindeer outfit.

#truestrory

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Originally Posted by ispano

You're right, you're not an expert. Armor molded to your chest in some form is actually dangerous.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/12/16/armo...-battle-armor/

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/05/boo...would-kill-you

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I'm talking about small deviations in the same general architecture to allow physical space for the human body, not perfectly-molded booby armor here.

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Originally Posted by Krr

I'm talking about small deviations in the same general architecture to allow physical space for the human body, not perfectly-molded booby armor here.

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Plate Armor is designed to deflect blows to the outside, as such is designed without those deviations on purpose. Not to mention there's quite a bit of space underneath just to allow for padding and such. Once you get to that point, the figure of the person underneath is pretty much gone. When looking at the armor of course.

There's even places where they go into details about this, and things like small engravings on the armor being bad.

Most of the time I'm pretty happy with the armor on females. Though the Noct six-pack is a bit odd looking, especially on the smaller characters.

I do wish there was some fancier "lighter" tank armor that might suit a Warrior's brand of tank a bit more instead of what I see as more Paladin-oriented suits of metal.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Plate Armor is designed to deflect blows to the outside, as such is designed without those deviations on purpose. Not to mention there's quite a bit of space underneath just to allow for padding and such. Once you get to that point, the figure of the person underneath is pretty much gone. When looking at the armor of course.

There's even places where they go into details about this, and things like small engravings on the armor being bad.

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Ah, yeah. That answers that, then.

I guess my main sticking point with the Guardian's chestpiece then, is based on the guy's sig portrait, the stuff is practically skintight, whereas the other armor-armor in the game tends to have a little more room.

The problem I have with it is not that it doesn't show the character's form, but it looks so tight that it must be crushing her.

ok, since you want to speak of reality, let talk of it, a women with the build of a miqo'te will not wear the same armor than a women roe, since this two race are extremely different in them body.
the miqote is more swift and slim than the roe girl... same between men and women. but here, we do wear the same armor!
i do remember the picture of the full noct on a miqo'te male and women side by side, exept the head.... they look exactly the same! our character become a man... when they are more slim and atheltic in the build... why can't we have armor adapted to our body?

and yes i was talking of the pauldron early, some pauldron bug violently when you run on the miqote or are too big for her.

People keep speaking about the functionality of armor and realism and such but....have you seen some of the armor in the game? How can that be functional based on your description?

http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...10642ea737.jpg

Not much of a problem for me... (>....>

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Originally Posted by Failia

People keep speaking about the functionality of armor and realism and such but....have you seen some of the armor in the game? How can that be functional based on your description?

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Could ask you the same. Not all of the armor has realistic bits, but some do and some more so than others.

To avoid further discrimination I have a complaint that certain gear pieces make my male character look like he has tiny/microscopic dik - SE should fix this issue along with missing breast.

This is why I just went for the healer gear, makes up for the gender-neutral uglyness of the guardian armor.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

ok, since you want to speak of reality, let talk of it, a women with the build of a miqo'te will not wear the same armor than a women roe, since this two race are extremely different in them body.
the miqote is more swift and slim than the roe girl... same between men and women. but here, we do wear the same armor!
i do remember the picture of the full noct on a miqo'te male and women side by side, exept the head.... they look exactly the same! our character become a man... when they are more slim and atheltic in the build... why can't we have armor adapted to our body?

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You didnt take reality into account at all. Also swiftness is not a physical attribute it's a description of performance.

I really hate the green skin ala Hulk popping out from the armor and covered my smooth slick bright skin on my toon!

They do get lazier each patch with gear design, liked the little touch on the AF to have different appearance on male and female chars, but seems they don't have time for that anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGh0EMmMC8

I feel your pain, but on the opposite side.

I mean. look at the Female version of the Scylla robe of casting.
it screams BOOOBS.

now look at the male version.
I was expecting something like the female version, with some kind of an opening in the dress, just to show my fab Higlander abs and/or pecs.
but no.
Y do I have to look like a chaste and pure Blackmage, with every inch of mah body covered ;___;

It’s Time to Retire “Boob Plate” Armor. Because It Would Kill You.


A good femine armor model could be something like this:
http://38.media.tumblr.com/bca79abd8...y7tao1_500.jpg