8 Hour Wait for a FATE for Daily Hunt

I had some time to kill this morning before work so I accepted my Daily Hunts and got to work. Finished all of them fairly quickly, but still needed Daxio of the Dawn from a FATE in East Shroud. So I settled in to wait for it. I waited 2 hours until I had to go to work. Found it strange that it hadn't popped in 2 hours, but whatever. I live very close to work so I came back home on my lunch break and tried again. Another hour, nothing.

After work I tried again. I'm currently at 5 hours after work of waiting and still no FATE, for a grand total of 8 hours without seeing it.

That seems to me excessive for a Daily Hunt. It shouldn't mean the Hunt takes an entire day.

Sure I could have given up, walked away, said screw it and moved on. But now it's personal.

Some FATEs are broken, despite a dev looking into some popular ones with huge wait times like "Giant Seps" and saying there is no problem, there obviously is something going on. It doesn't take a statistician to see that some pop every on average 3+ hours and others rotate in as short as 30 mins etc...

You are not just having bad luck and the FATE pop times are indeed not RNG.

You are not the one that notice this. All that for 2 Allied Seals..

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

You are not the one that notice this. All that for 2 Allied Seals..

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bah normal hunts are worthless. If you really need seals try your luck in hunting elites like the REAL hunters :P

That's another problem : hunt daylies are useless... The Fate hunt daylies should give at least 20 seals (and I still think it's cheap for the wait of some of them)
The nalance between reward for hunt (weekly, daylies and Elite) is totally broken...
Doing daylies should give more, weekly should give a lot more, and hunting elite out of weekly should give less (like a lot less) this way, they won't be that much people over farming elite. It is the grind Fate for XP problem all over again :/

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

bah normal hunts are worthless. If you really need seals try your luck in hunting elites like the REAL hunters :P

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REAL hunters? You mean join a linkshell full of people who have little else to do with their time than follow spawn timers and coordinate locations.
If it was real hunting I'd be able to find Naul on my own and kill it without the clown parade in tow.

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Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee

REAL hunters? You mean join a linkshell full of people who have little else to do with their time than follow spawn timers and coordinate locations.
If it was real hunting I'd be able to find Naul on my own and kill it without the clown parade in tow.

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Don't need to have an LS. Just get together a group of eight, have everyone scour a different zone, call to your party when you find something. Optionally (but common courtesy) shout once your party's in-zone or at the mob. Did it this way last night and had a -lot- of fun doing it, ended up with about 60~70 seals from just the last hour or three before maint hit.

8 hours accumulated is not 8 hours continuous wait. Misleading topic title.
Giant Seps can apparently spawn faster if you kill dragonflies near where the FATE is supposed to be.
So if you don't want to wait for it to show up on its own, try that.

Can't say about the sylph fate, but I saw it often enough in that zone.

Don't be an ... sitting and waiting for hunt/fate to spawn and getting mad it doesn't spawn exactly when you want to. Either do something fun or if you really want the fate to pop up in abandoned area then finish nearby fates, mobs etc to let server understand there is some activity happening in area.

Don't bother with daily hunts. The FATE one only gives 2 allied seals and you could have gotten 100x in 8 hours by hunting in party. There's no point to them.

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Originally Posted by Adler

Don't be an ... sitting and waiting for hunt/fate to spawn and getting mad it doesn't spawn exactly when you want to. Either do something fun or if you really want the fate to pop up in abandoned area then finish nearby fates, mobs etc to let server understand there is some activity happening in area.

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Not everyone has extended periods of time to zerg around whacking open world seal cash cows. Some players are under time constraints (eg. a full time job) or don't have 7 like minded friends who only want to farm The Hunt and do not much else. Putting in the time to wait for the daily FATEs to spawn and killing the other sets of mobs (for a laughable 7 seals per day) is arguably putting in more effort than those who just run from one location to the next throwing a hit or two and cashing in big-time.
If it's fair for SE to throw sands and oil at people for just zerging around, they should also be throwing a bone to people who aren't on the game 24/7 or wish to craft or run roulette/dungeons/primals/Coil..remember those?.

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Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee

Not everyone has extended periods of time to zerg around whacking open world seal cash cows. Some players are under time constraints (eg. a full time job) or don't have 7 like minded friends who only want to farm The Hunt and do not much else.

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Then surely the last thing you want to do is wait 8 hours for 2 seals. You'll get way more than 2 in one hour of a hunt party. I got about 60 last night in the hour I put in.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

Then surely the last thing you want to do is wait 8 hours for 2 seals. You'll get way more than 2 in one hour of a hunt party. I got about 60 last night in the hour I put in.

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(>....> 60.. I put an hour in over here I only got like 20?

You just had bad luck and he popped while you weren't there.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

You just had bad luck and he popped while you weren't there.

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Damnit...
ATMA 4/12
Lalafell Soul business went out because most of them already sold their souls
Miqo'te pelts out of fashion
Now this HUNT mobs :(

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

(>....> 60.. I put an hour in over here I only got like 20?

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I was lucky and got two As, 20 from the first and 12 from the second. The rest was made up of Bs. Could have been better if timing was on my side, two more As popped at the same time and I got neither.

Hunting elites in parties of 8 is the way to go even if you're short on time. Forget dailies.

I tried doing the dailies once and accumulated 5 hours of time waited without seeing the fate spawn. 3 hours in one session, and 2 in another. Then I just gave up and trashed my hunt.

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Originally Posted by dejavutwo

I tried doing the dailies once and accumulated 5 hours of time waited without seeing the fate spawn. 3 hours in one session, and 2 in another. Then I just gave up and trashed my hunt.

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Yeah, it seems kind of funny the fate based hunts have worse wait times then the elite ones, and they aren't even being camped or searched for by hundreds of people.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

Then surely the last thing you want to do is wait 8 hours for 2 seals. You'll get way more than 2 in one hour of a hunt party. I got about 60 last night in the hour I put in.

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Thing is, if you're in a Hunting party, then all you're doing is Hunting. You are actively scouring areas for Hunt mobs to kill, and if you're not then you're a leech. In a Hunting party, you are doing nothing but running, and running, and running, and hoping that you find a pop before someone else does, and hoping that if someone ELSE in your party finds a pop you can get to their position before the Horde moves in.

For FATEs, though, you're free to do pretty much anything you want as long as you stay in the same zone. You can craft, gather, do other FATEs for Atmas or Alexandrite. Heck, you don't even have to do stuff IN GAME - waiting on a FATE, you can do housework, read a book, cook food, whatever.

Daily hunts allow you lots of flexibility with how you spend your time waiting for pops. Hunting parties do not, and the way you need to spend your time is anything but fun.

Some FATEs spawn timers are just wrong.
I waited yesterday 5 hours for "The Taste of Fear" in Coerthas....

"The chance of a FATE occurring will increase the more time passes since its last occurrence, increasing the overall frequency of FATEs."
Someone check if that is working as intended...

5 hours....in that while, Bellyfull spawned 8 times, the Svara chain 4 times, Roc of Ages 5 times and The Eyes Have It 3 times....
Did laundry, watched a couple NBA summer league games, watched the rage-shouts in game every hour Naul spawned....really fun.

It's a really sad commentary on the daily hunts vs. the regular elite boss kills discrepancy when you need to spend hours waiting for some of these FATE bosses to pop (I got Seps as one the other day and said screw that) in order to get 2 seals when there are something like 100 B rank bosses that would pop in that time period (and each give 5 seals), or 17 A rank bosses that probably pop about as frequently as the buggy fates do and give 20 seals.

Said it before and I'll say it again: Whenever they link FATEs to some kind of system (animus/hunts) they all suddenly seem to get "broken"...

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

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So FATEs are better because you don't have to play the game?

If I didn't want to play the game I wouldn't login. I am 100% against AFK content, waste of electricity and makes me question my subscription. Unfortunately we're getting more and more of it.

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

8 Hour Wait for a FATE for Daily Hunt

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Linkbait. Shenanigans!

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Originally Posted by Adler

Don't be an ... sitting and waiting for hunt/fate to spawn and getting mad it doesn't spawn exactly when you want to. Either do something fun or if you really want the fate to pop up in abandoned area then finish nearby fates, mobs etc to let server understand there is some activity happening in area.

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And you missed my point. I'm not mad. And I admitted I could have just moved on and done other things. I didn't because, at a certain point, I became genuinely curious as to how long this was going to take, and why in the world would they assign a Daily to a FATE that takes hours to spawn. That makes no sense.

This is the system that they expected us to use to get these seals, but then make it almost worthless to do so. I just don't understand that.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

So FATEs are better because you don't have to play the game?

If I didn't want to play the game I wouldn't login. I am 100% against AFK content, waste of electricity and makes me question my subscription. Unfortunately we're getting more and more of it.

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FATEs are awful.

Hunts are worse.

In both cases, you spend hours waiting for something to pop in order to be rewarded. In the case of FATEs, you can spend that time productively doing other things. In the case of Hunts, you spend that time doing completely unproductive running around. Even more telling, with FATEs once the pop occurs you have a pretty good chance of getting the reward you're after. Hunts, as often as not, someone else will reach it first leaving you empty handed, or TOO MANY will reach it leaving everyone with bare scraps.

Both are abhorrant systems, but FATEs are the lesser of two evils.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Linkbait. Shenanigans!

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I personally waited six hours for "Taken" to pop in Southen Thanalan (and I'd also waited four hours for it the night before), so this doesn't strike me as impossible. How you can expect anyone could provide a link to prove they waited eight hours for a FATE, I have no idea.