It seems the cheating has spread to Frontlines.

Last match I participated in, I witnessed two instances of third-party tool use:

a) Unable to attack a Flames WHM standing directly in front of me. They were frozen and made no attempt to move until we retreated, at which point they magically came back to life again. The attack would begin, but stop partway through then "Unable to use that action at this time" (no, I wasn't stunned, pacified, slept etc.)

b) One Flames PLD was using a speedhack. He was bound and we rode away on mounts, only for him to not just *catch up* but dismount, Shield Lob and commence fighting us. The time it takes to Purify / Tempered Will, mount then move, we would be out of range.

If I see this behaviour again I shall be looking up character names on servers and filing a GM report. Whether SE take any notice or not, I don't care. I am completely sick of the cheating lately.

Wow, I haven't encountered this yet but this sounds awful. Can you even check character names in Frontlines, though, if they're your enemies?

[QUOTE=Applesnap;2269829]Last match I participated in, I witnessed two instances of third-party tool use:

a) Unable to attack a Flames WHM standing directly in front of me. They were frozen and made no attempt to move until we retreated, at which point they magically came back to life again. The attack would begin, but stop partway through then "Unable to use that action at this time" (no, I wasn't stunned, pacified, slept etc.)

I myself use WHM in FL and we have an ability called Attune which makes the evasion rate nearly 100 or maybe it is 100% but anyways and then when leveled with Action points make the CD really fast so that's what youre probably coming in contact with

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

Last match I participated in, I witnessed two instances of third-party tool use:

a) Unable to attack a Flames WHM standing directly in front of me. They were frozen and made no attempt to move until we retreated, at which point they magically came back to life again. The attack would begin, but stop partway through then "Unable to use that action at this time" (no, I wasn't stunned, pacified, slept etc.)

I myself use WHM in FL and we have an ability called Attune which makes the evasion rate nearly 100 or maybe it is 100% but anyways and then when leveled with Action points make the CD really fast so that's what youre probably coming in contact with

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Yup lol and knowing is half the battle ^^
Might want to check pvp classes's abilities before calling out cheats.
Cuz assuming only makes an ass out of you and me.

You can target someone and use an emote on them to see their name. I believe /p <t> also works, but not 100% on this.

Yeah, I know about Attunement but it wasn't that. They were in range and the attack wasn't missing. It was giving the "Unable to perform" error as if I was stunned, but the animation would get partway through then just stop. When we all ran back (they were in the alley outside of Markets north end) they behaved as normal again.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Cuz assuming only makes an ass out of you and me.

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But... you're assuming that they didn't know about the skill, and that their opponent was using the skill in this case (which it doesn't sound to me like they were), so that makes... uhh... yeah?

Sounds like lag.

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

You can target someone and use an emote on them to see their name. I believe /p <t> also works, but not 100% on this.

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Using <t> does work
You could make a macro like this:
/echo <t>

http://puu.sh/aeHUd.png

Set a chat tab to show only echo or change the color of echo to something easily noticeable (yellow or bright red maybe) and you easily pick out the names of people you 'checked'. Just in case you don't know, /echo will print a chat message only you can see. This way you don't end up spamming your team mates with random peoples names.

Thanks for the info, Phenidate. I will pass it on to some others as well.

These issues aren't lag-related. Had two different people complain about issue a) last night when a black mage came to our outpost and they tried to kill him. Nothing worked. He just stood by the flag and was unable to be hit by anything. When two of his team members arrived, he suddenly went back to normal. No Attunement this time, even though that wasn't the cause before. I can guess at what the hack is from my experience seeing it in FFXI and it's not used commonly (right now), but it's still damaging.

So many people are dismissive about any actual cheating, but I can assure you it is happening. People use third-party tools for hunts, so why do you think PvP would be sacred? It is not lag or anything related to status effects and the sooner we realise this as a community and get rid of it, the better. It should be an equal and fair playground for all, regardless of Grand Company affiliation or server.

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

Thanks for the info, Phenidate. I will pass it on to some others as well.

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Are you playing on PS4? Would be nice if you can provide a video to show it.

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

Last match I participated in, I witnessed two instances of third-party tool use:

a) Unable to attack a Flames WHM standing directly in front of me. They were frozen and made no attempt to move until we retreated, at which point they magically came back to life again. The attack would begin, but stop partway through then "Unable to use that action at this time" (no, I wasn't stunned, pacified, slept etc.)

I myself use WHM in FL and we have an ability called Attune which makes the evasion rate nearly 100 or maybe it is 100% but anyways and then when leveled with Action points make the CD really fast so that's what youre probably coming in contact with

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Attunement sucks so hard >.>, if no one is healing you as soon as you come out you die...

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Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix

Attunement sucks so hard >.>, if no one is healing you as soon as you come out you die...

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This is why people are having issues in PvP.

Attunement is godly, utterly godly in Frontlines. Its a free 10 seconds of not taking any damage but the DoTs that were already applied. How is that bad?

Radars are cheating too

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

But... you're assuming that they didn't know about the skill, and that their opponent was using the skill in this case (which it doesn't sound to me like they were), so that makes... uhh... yeah?

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Which is y i said " you" and " me"
:3

actually yesterday i did see the same thing here. was fighting with someone and then just saw a guy ran in like a moment from one side to another. but not teleported, but literally ran, like 100x quicker or something. i thought it was lag but some people started complaining. i remember in other games there used to be this crap, im sure FF XIV is possible to be hacked also in that way.

Hmm... Interesting. Situation a) happened to me earlier, but I didn't realize it was cheating. I didn't even know people were cheating in frontlines... That's kinda disappointing. > n<

Anyhoo, it sort of happened the same way. White mage was at markets first. She appeared to be floating, and was completely still. I targeted to kill, but couldn't. I received the same error, as if I were asleep, stunned or something else. But I wasn't. I was running around doing my bard thing, and no one else was there to mess with me. I thought it was odd for a few seconds, but then I could hit the mage when everyone else showed up and she started moving.

Honestly, I thought it was some freaky lag... Guess I was wrong. o.o;

Guys It happened to me too, a WHM was able to move from the South exit of the manor to the nord exit in about 4 or 5 sec, he walked like countinously teleporting his character, it wasn't lag he used a tool and we said to a GM.
Anyway I was playing with a friend with a PS4 and he recorded it, I'll ask him to put in on youtube.

the annoying things is that u are unable to know the name of the cheater.
Anyway I saw only 1 cheater in 50 campaign.
and he was a lalafel u.u

i had a whm disapear with 10 HPS left once. he was gone 6 minutes until a group of adder 3 adder showed up and he reentered the game with no life but was untargetable for a full minute. i wasted that full minute trying to get him to die but could do no damage, nor could i put him in combat and he regenerated back to full while those 3 adders decimated my healer and my other dps. dont know if that was hax or jsut really convenient timing.

actually if you emote at someone itll tell you thier name.

I am using PS4 and not encountered such incident as yours. Unfortunately, I was not able to make a video of of my Frontline but I experienced a very situation. I have an SCH with me to support me guarding middle flag post and a summoner came to take down the flag, and of of course you would attack him/her t defend what your GC owned. Then, when we were at 50% or less with her/his HP he/she somewhat like "Teleport" from us to get away. More or less it is 25 or 30 Yalms that my Piercing talon could not reach him/her.

He/she may be lagging but I guess not. It is somewhat like speed run or something, hope SE check this to resolve.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

This is why people are having issues in PvP.

Attunement is godly, utterly godly in Frontlines. Its a free 10 seconds of not taking any damage but the DoTs that were already applied. How is that bad?

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Attument is easy to counter as brd/smn hawks eye and u wont miss and can still fk up the healer when they thinking their safe

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Originally Posted by Riepah

Wow, I haven't encountered this yet but this sounds awful. Can you even check character names in Frontlines, though, if they're your enemies?

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You can easily check the character names of enemies by marking them with macros commands. I do it all the time.

Thanks for the info i'v seen many Players use it like its no one business i'm surprise people haven't got banned or warning its making front lines not playable , i personally love playing pvp . but i really dislike cheaters .

This macro would work. Mark the person with a symbol, let's say the X one aka Cross in macro terms. Target them and then kick this off:

Macro Name:
Name & Shame Trgt
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/enemysign cross <t>
/alliance <cross> is a cheater please take video captures and screenshots

I would never advocate naming and shaming someone who cheats in PVP but it does make me an bit curious if others have done that anonymously elsewhere with adequate proof. It certainly wouldn't make me sad to hear of such a thing existing.

Cheating......I wonder of that is really the case.

Two situations OP described doesn't sound like cheating already. First one, it is called attunement and benediction, one of WHM PvP action. Second one is heavy received whiled mounted isn't as potency as Player casting version and it only last 3s. If you use sprint under that type of heavy, you still have normal waking speed of a character. Not too hard to catch you with shield throw at 15m. It is also very recommended to macro dismount with purify.

There are many players don't even know what attunement is and there are also many healers seems to unaware that attunement is not 100% evasion. Not first time I am seeing healers questions their death after they claim they popped attunement. How do you tell who is cheating when you are lacking knowledge about other job?

If they pop Attunement with really low HP they will die, also if you pop Attunement with LOW HP and possible live chances are you will die once Attunement ends. You can not pop Attunement at the last minute because there is a delay, it is best to pop it when you are about half life. I do agree with what Divinemight has posted it is not cheating.