SCH in PVP

1v1 a SCH in Frontlines and see how fast you can get him down. Even better, go as MNK/DRG and 1v1 a SCH in Frontlines.

I sleep the fairy but my sleep is not long enough to kill the SCH with the back to back Lustrates.

I think the fairy heals are much too powerful for Frontlines and either BLM and WHM should get increase to our sleep again or the fairy needs some sort of PVP nerf :/.

People have no problem killing me with my fairy. Considering the fact it's 90% of nothing but interrupts.

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

People have no problem killing me with my fairy. Considering the fact it's 90% of nothing but interrupts.

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Lustrate? You can spam your three lustrates in a row and then Aetherflow and another further lustrates.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

Lustrate? You can spam your three lustrates in a row and then Aetherflow and another further lustrates.

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then have nothing for another minute, and not have used any last minute.

A Monk that knows how to use One Ilm Punch to strip your buffs?

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

1v1 a SCH in Frontlines and see how fast you can get him down. Even better, go as MNK/DRG and 1v1 a SCH in Frontlines.

I sleep the fairy but my sleep is not long enough to kill the SCH with the back to back Lustrates.

I think the fairy heals are much too powerful for Frontlines and either BLM and WHM should get increase to our sleep again or the fairy needs some sort of PVP nerf :/.

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Any halfgood SCH will win 1v1 against every class(except WHM obv.)
Also you're not supposed to be able to kill a healer in 1v1 it would break arena.

15s sleeps was probably the best change they could have made for pvp, 30s was broken.

The game isn't really balanced for 1v1. Fortunately, since no game mode is designed to be played 1v1, this shouldn't be an issue.

That being said, healer-heavy groups in Frontlines are most certainly an issue, if they can hold points indefinitely due to how heavy the heals are.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

Lustrate? You can spam your three lustrates in a row and then Aetherflow and another further lustrates.

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no they dont need nerfs.
not sure why youre 1v1 a healer anyways lol.
in an open battle like this, you need to gank them as a team, whole point of this thing is teamwork.
ppl have no problems killin me to hell and back because they target me like a boss, then my whole team is down so im screwed.
this mode in no way was designed for ppl to 1v1. just let them go and wait to kill them in a team fight...or gank a random on
as a team if u want lol.
[not trying to be rude just givin my opinion (: ]

you should never be able to 1v1 a SCH...

Now when you get 1v3'd by a scholar that's an appropriate complaint

There's two responses to this:

1) Why are you trying to 1 Vs 1 a SCH? You will never win unless the SCH is face rolling their keyboard. Even then they'll probably win. Scholar is the one job you really should not 1 Vs 1. Don't even engage them. It's a waste of time. You'll never kill them and good Scholars will kill you pretty quickly. Move on and find another target.

2) Why are you trying to 1 vs 1 anyone? Stick with your team and help your alliance win!

As a SCH I can say that is very OP in Frontlines, it can kill every other job 1v1 including WHM(Ruin II interrupts the cast apparently). I was surprised by this actually, I was able to kill brds/mnks/smns easily.(those are the only jobs that usually run after me) Cleric stance+ ruin II + energy drain + fairy heals is too much to handle

We re good but not invincible, it all come down to, as usual : how good can the enemy focus you. And thats the thing that usually never happen in a good way when you play in pure pug, on the same regard people tend to simply not care about you even when you need that little help.

Best way to kill a SCH is after you see them refresh aetherflow burst them down. After you see the stacks refresh then it's best to try and dps them down then since if they blow all 3 lustrates quickly on themselves they're stuck deciding if they're using other big cooldowns or eating a death. Even if you don't kill them off within a minute, if you've managed to get them to blow 3 lustrates on themselves then that is a victory as well since that means that's 3 that didn't go to the teammates that they're supposed to be healing.

I just surecast and blizzard 2 usually after refreshin aetherflow, so i can go in the back of the bugger and adlo myself again :p

You shouldn't be 1v1'ing a healer period. Rather it be a SCH or a WHM, Healers are zerged; not 1v1'd.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

I think the fairy heals are much too powerful for Frontlines and either BLM and WHM should get increase to our sleep again or the fairy needs some sort of PVP nerf :/.

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your tears sustain me. like others have already said, you shouldn't be 1v1'ing a healer anyways. when i come across scrubs who try to do that to me, i just kite them to a group of my team members and lol at their death for being stupid.
eos has been nerfed for pvp time and time again. if you still cant kill a sch then get good.

I've found that as a SMN, Ifrit and being lucky enough to get all 4 Dots on a SCH, is whats needed to take down SCHs in 1v1. Like others have said though, 1v1 is pointless and probably costing your team points if your not on a flag.

Baiting a SCH is also usefull. Throwing a Bio I and MiasmaII, wait to see if they blow a purify. if they do, get B.I+M.II back on them, swift cast BioII, and if they are not very mobile, get that M.I in. fester and keep Ifrit on them. blow you enkindle if you see them use all 3 lustrates.

SCH against 1 target is really powerful, but any class has some adavantages in specific contest.
Anyway probably u won't win even with a WHM xD
He can attack u only with Aero while running, but he can use rigene and sprint, afther that your HP is almost low
he can use fluid aura + sleep, he will recover and protect with stoneskin, then cause u heavy with stone I and then
finally kill u xD

Anyway if u have to fight a SCH remember to interrupt fairy too, so use AoE if u have it,
but anyway I wouldn't suggest to try it anyway xD
(Sleep on fairy usually isn't the best tactic, SCH can Leeches it and protect it with Rouse)

All these comments about 1vs1 are foolish.
In frontlines it just comes down that sometimes.

As for "never engage a healer"
I eat WHM for breakfast so, that point is not valid. :P