I remember how Pld is no use in PvP wolfden, which might as well use MRD or WAR.
But now, I don't know if the new Frontline system has any use for Pld?
What does Pld do in Frontline ?
Printable View
-
07-09-2014, 04:49 PMAliseWhat does Pld do in Frontline ?
-
07-09-2014, 05:15 PMVittorino
Ofc you do, PLD is not a dps class.
Utilize your CD's appropriately, PLD are Peeler's (Stun) utility for the party. heal if need be, stoneskin if need be, lock a target down and give your team enough time to destroy that target.
Just need to find your niche'. -
07-09-2014, 05:24 PMNoblewar
I be stunning Healers. I mark, tell people to go for 1, i'll stun 2 and if there is 3 we sleep em
-
07-09-2014, 06:08 PMJadi
Before the stun nerf pld was very good at holding a target in place +20% damage taken for a very long time allowing your dps to burn down a target. Better at it than mrd but less damage of their own.. they needed the dps's to focus when you went for burndown because you could only do it once before DR. (rando drg's and mnk's would often ruin this effect with their gap closers) pld could also prevent a similar situation with cover/sentinel.
I mained whm for a few thousand matches in wolfs den, a war is scarey but a pld could be worse depending on his teamwork due to the ability to chain-stun your ass for-basically-ever.
Now with the nerf it's less effective and their ability to peel isn't as good either. -
07-09-2014, 10:05 PMGorwhat are you talkin about? PLDs are beast ... if you utilize your abilities wisely. everyone already addressed PLD use in wolves den so i won't touch on that but in Frontlines, PLDs make great scouts and flag ninja'rs. they can easily solo weak bases and call for backup and hold it down until backup arrives. if you manage to get on a good competent FL team that actually plays the battleground and comes when bases are called, PLDs are very useful for that or to cause a distraction at one base while your team takes another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alise
-
07-10-2014, 01:29 AMDeelo
Cover and Testudo. Please, please God. I cannot stress how useful PLDs COULD BE to healers and anyone being gang banged. I'm on my 45~ match as a healer and I've only seen Cover maybe once or twice. Other than that....I've seen a STR+DET based PLD be the top dmg on the boards.
-
07-10-2014, 02:31 AMCeveArthuExcept it could just rotate stuns on everyone on the enemy team, cover the healer, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Alise
Paladin was pretty fucking amazing in wolves den, still is -
07-10-2014, 03:38 AMEpistane
We run 1-2 PLDs in our group with a 1-2 heals. Your job is to throw out stuns. Protect healer with stuns/tetsu/cover when needed. Stun stun stun. chain stun healers especially, we always have our group call out kill targets which are usually healers first, chain stun then RIP.
And PLD's were/are amazing in wolves den lol... In frontlines a good PLD = our healers are pretty much near immortal (ok not really, but when you are 8 people going up against 12+ people that are constantly ressing and running back that tetsu/cover/stunning targets off ur healer REALLY makes a huge difference)
So yes in frontlines they are amazing. but if you are solo queueing ehhhh.... Basically they shine A LOT more in a good group than they would solo if you get what I'm saying -
07-10-2014, 06:10 AMIspen
Same as wolves den protect healers lock down theirs or the other casters another job in front lines is hold areas.
-
07-10-2014, 10:53 AMGextiv
The nerf was harsh on Paladins...
-
07-11-2014, 10:33 AMPibzNo it wasn't... you can still stunlock, and you still get 3 stuns with no cd, the cc time is lower but other classes got that nerfed way harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gextiv
-
07-11-2014, 05:00 PMJadiYa they had that lockdown forever going for them that made them good but its less effective now. idk tho I've been playing pld some in frontlines and it doesn't feel too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pibz
-
07-11-2014, 05:09 PMPotatoes
PLD should be on ranged imo in Frontline, your ranged on their healers so you force their healers to decide between healing themselves or their dps. I wouldn't blow stuns on healers until you see equanimity that way they waste their cooldown. PLD should be reapplying stoneskin during lulls in combat as well instead of just sitting there and wanking with their oaths.
-
07-11-2014, 05:20 PMJadiPersonally I feel war (and brd's flanking) is better suited for assaulting the backline while PLD is better positioned protecting your healers from said war's an brds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Potatoes
-
07-11-2014, 05:25 PMPotatoes
I think BLM makes the better healer guard because between Heavy, Bind, Sleep, Virus, Eye for an Eye, Lethargy, BLM has far more options compared to PLD's gimped stun and Cover. With how many SMNs and BLMs running free due to lack of focus in mass encounters Cover won't stop that magic damage from killing off your healers. MRD/WARs are probably better than PLDs though for rushing backlines though because they can get in, berserk, burst someone really fast and get one and BRD is pretty hilarious for healer harassment. I was in voip with a bard friend of mine and we would buff to max for barrage and focus a healer at the same time and it's crazy how fast they burn. I'm sure they had no clue what was hitting them because BRD animations are so ignorable.
-
07-11-2014, 07:34 PMJadiYa I agree with you a lot, blm and whm too are superior peel. PLD has a harder time getting on targets than WAR/MRD it's def do-able tho. I still play midline on PLD tho because cover is just invaluable on a focused target. its super good and on a low CD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Potatoes
-
07-12-2014, 02:36 AMUltimatecalibur
PLDs also make effective Harriers/Scouts with proper use of Tempered Will and Defensive CDs.
Several matches I took an undefended or poorly defended GC outpost while most of that GC were off battling at an Allagan control points.