Why would they lower sol?

Seriously? It's already enough of an annoyance running the same dungeons over and over, but now they lower sol sp I have to run them even more just to get cap... =/ the heck. Well, guess I'll just start waiting till sunday/Monday when all the hard core players are capped and doing myth runs dropping out of df so I can que in progress on my healer for faster sol.

You forgot 3 new dungeons which will probably have the amount of Sol the current DREX ones do (which are getting demoted to DRHM).

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

Seriously? It's already enough of an annoyance running the same dungeons over and over, but now they lower sol sp I have to run them even more just to get cap... =/ the heck. Well, guess I'll just start waiting till sunday/Monday when all the hard core players are capped and doing myth runs dropping out of df so I can que in progress on my healer for faster sol.

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they got demoted to hard, they used to be extreme. also frontlines gives soldiering if I recall

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Originally Posted by Majidah

they got demoted to hard, they used to be extreme. also frontlines gives soldiering if I recall

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Should be both myths and sols, aye. Although I suspect it won't be a lot.

The old expert dungeons go into the high level dungeons categorie.
With 2.3 new expert dungeons are coming.

Soldiery wasn't the problem. It was mythology that was, and they fixed it
but letting us get more of it

<<<< Happy Midlander over here

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

Seriously? It's already enough of an annoyance running the same dungeons over and over

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That's the point.

*badumtish*

It's probably because there's going to be more ways to get Soldiery, and that these dungeons (like Brayflox HM) are done very quickly as people get better gear (which will also be easier in 2.3).

It also encourages higher geared players to use the newer dungeons rather than the old ones.

This is also something that is done every patch. Easier content gives reduced rewards, and as the average iLvl of the players increases, the speed of acquiring those rewards also increases. This is the alternative (and better for the game in the long run) than simply increasing the caps higher again.

yeah SE "fixed" it by making Speedflox give more myth.. wait. what?

The new dungeons will probably have the highest amount of sol.

Expert roulette soldiery went up. Most things went up. 2.2 dungeons got demoted to high level category, and their myth went up.

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Originally Posted by AiChyan

The new dungeons will probably have the highest amount of sol.

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^This. It is just a demotion in terms of dungeon rank/reward. The same happened in 2.2 with the reward of the higher dungeons at the time being reduced, but it wasn't as obvious since the tome system changed with the introduction of soldiery. The new expert dungeons (Hullbreaker/SV/TTD) will likely give out the same amount of soldiery that the expert dungeons give out currently.

lots of ways to get soldiery now. no one makes you run the same dungeon over and over again. You'd do whatever is fastest anyways probably.

If you're taking more than the first day of reset to cap sols, then I don't know what you're doing or how slow you're doing it. Seriously, it's a friggin JOKE how easy it is to cap sols.

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Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider

If you're taking more than the first day of reset to cap sols, then I don't know what you're doing

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Since Animus Wielders get a nice daily quest to run Expert Roulette once for an Alexandrite map, some of us don't bother actively capping soldiery.
It's just comes as a freebie for doing more pressing things.

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Originally Posted by KagatoAC

yeah SE "fixed" it by making Speedflox give more myth.. wait. what?

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InB4 first two bosses give 10 myth last boss gives 50, similar to every other dungeon in the tier.

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Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro

Since Animus Wielders get a nice daily quest to run Expert Roulette once for an Alexandrite map, some of us don't bother actively capping soldiery.
It's just comes as a freebie for doing more pressing things.

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Like what? Coil? Cause that's really the only pressing thing to do "these days." People speeding a full Bray only takes what, 12 minutes max, if that? So take that into account and you get two hours, that's TWO hours, out of an entire WEEK to cap (not counting the new setup) if you're speeding Bray full. And you have an entire week to do it. I could read any ungodly J.R.R. Tolkien book in less time.

I'm kinda indifferent on this. The tomes are a very important aspect of end game, I'd say the only aspect of it really. With the current set up of solidery tomes being capped off at a horrendous amount to begin with I don't think lowering the payout of them is the right thing to do without increasing the cap overall. It takes 2 hours to get a max amount of sol already. Anyone can hit that in one sitting easily, then not have anything to do. When I was working toward my first piece of weathered gear and hit the sol cap limit with 2 hours, I quit playing until I was able to earn sol again. So if they lower sol say to the point where it takes 4 hours to max sol out, it doesn't really solve anything in regards to making players want to do old dungeons.

Mostly the reason is to keep the reward in line with everything else in the hard roulette so they don't have people leaving duty because they got one of the lower rewarding dungeons. Frankly I agree that they are just a little too stingy with soldiery as it is. But presumably the new expert tier dungeons will be back up to 45. And hopefully with hunts, frontlines and syrcus tower soldiery won't be quite so obnoxious.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

I'm kinda indifferent on this. The tomes are a very important aspect of end game, I'd say the only aspect of it really. With the current set up of solidery tomes being capped off at a horrendous amount to begin with I don't think lowering the payout of them is the right thing to do without increasing the cap overall. It takes 2 hours to get a max amount of sol already. Anyone can hit that in one sitting easily, then not have anything to do. When I was working toward my first piece of weathered gear and hit the sol cap limit with 2 hours, I quit playing until I was able to earn sol again. So if they lower sol say to the point where it takes 4 hours to max sol out, it doesn't really solve anything in regards to making players want to do old dungeons.

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Based on your join date, you probably aren't familiar with the process. Every patch, when the introduce a new set of dungeons, they become the primary sources of the limited tomes and all of the old dungeons become a primary source of unlimited tomes. They happened to make the distribution for the 2.2 tier in response to the fishing that was occurring at launch and in 2.1. Now they will restore it so that the first two bosses will grant hardly any rewards and the end boss will grant the majority since fishing isn't a problem with dungeons anymore.

Expert + High roulette are like 100 a day after the patch (maybe more depending on what changes we see in the final patch notes) so You literally come on, run you roulette, run Brayflox or whatever 1-5 times and you're at, what, 200 Sol (give or take) for the day?

Dropping each run by 20 Sol is not going to hinder anyone from capping unless they are busy 24/6 and have 12+ hours of occupied time on that 7th day.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Based on your join date, you probably aren't familiar with the process. Every patch, when the introduce a new set of dungeons, they become the primary sources of the limited tomes and all of the old dungeons become a primary source of unlimited tomes. They happened to make the distribution for the 2.2 tier in response to the fishing that was occurring at launch and in 2.1. Now they will restore it so that the first two bosses will grant hardly any rewards and the end boss will grant the majority since fishing isn't a problem with dungeons anymore.

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You missed my point entirely, my point was why bother lowering the payout of old instances in favor of the newer ones with such a low weekly cap on sol. I rather they increase said cap limit for the week instead of running a new instance for 2 hours and be done the rest of the week.

Once upon a time, the weekly cap for the highest tier tomes was only 300. Then the community wanted more so SE raised it to 450, which I think is a more than generous amount. Maybe my opinion is biased since I remember the 'not-so-good' times (which I still thought were pretty good). I was actually surprised that SE allowed the 450 cap to remain in place when Soldiery tomes were first launched, without raising item prices to 'balance' it out. Yes people can cap soldiery in a couple hours a week, but if that's the only thing a person cares to do in this game, then I think they're overpaying on the subscription.