Not sure if I'm reading this correctly, if I do can I get a refund on the Materia I used to meld my PVP equip? I don't feel like throwing 10m+ in a trashcan.Quote:
In order to ensure participants are evenly matched, materia bonuses, as well as the Morale parameter, will be ignored while item level sync is in effect.
As of patch 2.3, item level sync will be applied to the following PvP instances:
The Wolves' Den (Matched, IL 80) / The Wolves' Den (Light Party, IL 80) / The Carteneau Flats: Borderland Ruins (IL 80)
Wolves' Den item level sync
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07-04-2014, 10:47 PMKicoeWolves' Den item level sync
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07-04-2014, 11:00 PMKoltik
Those will be in addition to the wolves den we have now.
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The following duties, trials, and raids have been added to the Duty Finder.
PvP
The Wolves' Den (Matched, IL 80) / The Wolves' Den (Light Party, IL 80) / The Carteneau Flats: Borderland Ruins (IL 80)
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07-04-2014, 11:03 PMKicoe
Oh I see, makes sense I guess.
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07-05-2014, 12:09 AMLogoI wonder what that meansQuote:
When undertaking a duty utilizing item level sync, the item level of any gear exceeding the maximum item level will be adjusted accordingly. Unlike character level sync, however, gear parameters will not be subject to further reduction beyond that brought about by the item level decrease.
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07-05-2014, 12:51 AMKoltik
So here's the question, and based on the wording the answer seems to be YES.
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07-05-2014, 01:37 AMLogoNo, it won't, Morale (as well as materia, it seems) will not function in Frontlines .Quote:
Originally Posted by Koltik
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07-05-2014, 03:01 AMKoltikI know that's what everyone says, but where is that in the patch notes? non-existent..Quote:
Originally Posted by Logo
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07-05-2014, 03:29 AMUltimatecaliburIts in the patch notes here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Koltik
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The item level sync system has been added.
When undertaking a duty utilizing item level sync, the item level of any gear exceeding the maximum item level will be adjusted accordingly. Unlike character level sync, however, gear parameters will not be subject to further reduction beyond that brought about by the item level decrease.
In order to ensure participants are evenly matched, materia bonuses, as well as the Morale parameter, will be ignored while item level sync is in effect.
* Restrictions will not apply to the use of player actions or traits.
As of patch 2.3, item level sync will be applied to the following PvP instances:
The Wolves' Den (Matched, IL 80) / The Wolves' Den (Light Party, IL 80) / The Carteneau Flats: Borderland Ruins (IL 80)
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07-05-2014, 03:34 AMKoltikYou forgot to bold what you seem to be missing, which is "while item level sync is in effect". i70 < i80, and therefore will not be sync'd down to i80. You see the confusion here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
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07-05-2014, 03:55 AMUltimatecaliburTrue, the phrase "while item level sync is in effect" can be read as "while in effect on the player," but the context of the section seems to imply "while in effect in the duty" and that loss of Materia bonuses and Morale parameter are not considered part of the item level syncing effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koltik
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07-05-2014, 04:58 AMEldyGood...so if I am not in item level sync, my full Warwolf set is basically best in slot for Frontlines then? Cause it would be a real shame if morale was completely taken out of the picture and i70 pvp gear would be useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
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07-05-2014, 05:32 AMUltimatecaliburNo. I was saying that Morale is likely completely out of the picture. BiS for Wolf's Den i80 and Frontlines will likely be i80+ PvE gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldy
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07-05-2014, 05:38 AMLogoYes that gear is useless for Frontlines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldy
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07-05-2014, 05:41 AMEldy
So basically they are making it so the people who pve more then pvp have something more to do? Either way we'll see cause warwolf or direwolf will be better then the pve stuff.
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07-05-2014, 06:14 AMUltimatecaliburNo, without Morale, the Warwolf, Direwolf and the i100 sets will be equal to or worse than PvE gear of the same ilevel because they will be short one secondary stat and melds will not mean anything while in i80 sync content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldy
This is likely to be a Paladins BiS for Frontlines/i80 Wolf's Den:
Break Blade/ Curtana Novus (Det/Crit)
(Tidal) Wave Shield/ Holy Shield Novus (Det/Crit)
(Weathered) Noct Circlet
Heavy Wolfram Cuirass
Heroes Belt of Fending/(Weathered) Noct Belt
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07-05-2014, 06:20 AMEldyThank you for clarifying that for me. Good thing I still have a lot of gear to play around with then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
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07-05-2014, 06:44 AMEdenlysWill there still the main wolves den arena without synchronization ?Quote:
As of patch 2.3, item level sync will be applied to the following PvP instances:
The Wolves' Den (Matched, IL 80) / The Wolves' Den (Light Party, IL 80) / The Carteneau Flats: Borderland Ruins (IL 80)
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07-05-2014, 06:57 AMUltimatecaliburNo note on it's removal so I think its likely still in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edenlys
Looks like we will have 7 PvP types in the duty finder:
The Wolves' Den (Matched, Level 30)
The Wolves' Den (Matched, Level 40)
The Wolves' Den (Matched, Level 50)
The Wolves' Den (Light Party, Level 50)
The Wolves' Den (Matched, IL 80)
The Wolves' Den (Light Party, IL 80)
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07-05-2014, 07:00 AMEldyYeah that sounds about right. If they were to remove the normal Wolves' Den all PvP gear would be useless. Especially the i100Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
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07-05-2014, 07:36 AMrazz
We can change classes/jobs in the Carteneau Flats. So who needs Tanks there? Especially after stun time reduction.
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07-05-2014, 08:15 AMUltimatecaliburWell, Paladin has Glory Slash for AoE buff stripping and "take 50% damage for 16 sec" Testudo, Warrior/Marauder has "every enemy off the control point" Mythril Tempest and "every ally gets +25% hp" Thrill of War, and both have "+10%/+20% DoW damage" Full Swing.Quote:
Originally Posted by razz
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07-06-2014, 12:41 AMEdenlysThat's stupid !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
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07-06-2014, 02:39 AMCaly
no one is currently playing level 30 or 40 anyway.
Only wintrader are playing light party...
they can put 50 pvp mission, we will still can use only one or 2...
Thanks to the community for this useless pvp.... -
07-07-2014, 11:26 PMRose-WildLol there's way more people playing lv30-40 than 50. like 70% of my queue pops are low level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caly
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07-08-2014, 02:35 AMEpistaneThat's crazy. in our DC , majority of my pops are always 50s bracket (I don't queue 30s)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rose-Wild
Anyways. the way I see it is that if there is no benefit of doing non synced wolves den ( extra rewards/LADDER?!?!? blah blah) over i80 synced, most people will be queueing i80 sync wolves den.. which is fine. no more "u had better gear!!111" excuses -
07-08-2014, 02:48 AMVittorino
Didn't bother reading the responses, forgive me if it had been reiterated.
Competitive Un-Equalized PvP is still a function within the Wolves Den. Carebear PvP is a new implementation to the individuals who would like an even playing ground. Ultimately Rank PvP will flourish and all will come from their corners.
Time will tell. Cheerio! -
07-08-2014, 03:10 AMEpistaneHaha I just wish they'd add leadboards/rating for non equalized wolves den... They have a leadboard for GCs and FCs but none for actual pvp... notsureifsrs. and considering that starting tomorrow there will be a ton of options for newcomers to gear up for pvp with synced wolves and frontlines...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vittorino
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07-08-2014, 06:51 PMEdenlysI think that ranked ladder will be synchronized !!! Square Enix makes sure new players is as competitive as the players who play for months...Quote:
Originally Posted by Epistane
Do not worry, loosing time + tens of millions of gil spend in materia shows you that Square Enix prefers profits despite its consumers.